2010 Saab 9-5 VIN decoder

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Found on a GM website on the internets, what we have here is a preliminary VIN key for the upcoming 2010 Saab 9-5. Click to enlarge.

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Now, I say it's a preliminary VIN decoder because there are some details that we know have changed from this.

  • Russelsheim's out the door.
  • The 2.9l diesel is out the door as well as GM gave up on it.
  • There's most likely going to be a 1.6T engine as well, which isn't mentioned here.

Still, it's a little bit of insider fun for those prospective new 9-5 owners of the future.



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"Notchback" is so wide open for interpretation.


Do I see a 2 litre SIDI (direct injection) engine? Opel GT/Pontiac Solstice anyone?


No 'real' mention of a hatch, but there is said to be one...


I saw that 2.0L SIDI included on the option list as well. It is not the same RPO code as the Solstice or Cobalt SS version of the engine (LNF vs. LHO for the new 9-5).

Nothing on the GM service or Saab information yet on 2010 vehicles - except Camaro so far.

Have to keep my eyes on that one.


So no diesel options on the 9-5 ?


2 x 2l diesels, just no V6.


Off topic. I guess this is the week, good luck to you all, I hope your dreams comes through..The ones with Saab in it that is..


Yes this is an exciting week indeed.

Regarding the 2,9 Diesel that supposedly are out; Is it realy necessary to have a V6 TiD? For the sake of Image maybe?

Tom


Maybe they'll find a V6 TiD on some shelf - would be important (like DIesels in general) especially for Europe.


Well, a new owner will decide if Saab should invest in the 2,9 (It´s realy 3,0). The engine is still there to grab, and the enginebay is adapted for it. Why not buy the engine directly from VM Motori? RA 630 DOHC
http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=9.

Saab does not have to go via GM to buy the engine..


Hmm, That link did not work..

Here are the RA 630 DOHC specs.


Engine RA 630 DOHC
Displacement 2987 cc
Cylinders 6 in 60 degree V
Valves 24
Injection Common rail piezo 2000 bar
Max power 184 kW/4000 rpm
Torque 550 Nm/2000 rpm
Weight 220 kg
Emissions EURO 5

Tompa


notchback = sedan


I can remember sombody at SAAB said, they had different options to replace the VM 2.9

Otherwise we see the expected 160bhp and 190bhp diesels.

On the gasoline side we have the SIDI engine which should have less than 220 bhp
the 2L with 220bhp, the V6 with 260bhp and a V6 with (lets hope) 325bhp.

Interesting and funny, the 7th digit it's no more the gearbox type but the restraint system.


So it seems from wikipedia. However, why the brackets? Why this " overdetermination" like sedan(sedan)?


Opel Insignia is available in Sedan Notchback and Sedan Hatchback. I hope we will se a Sedan Hatchback (just like the Insignia) for the 9-5.


Could the LMU engine the current 2.0t Engine mounted on the 9-3 ?
Does somebody know if this engine is a DI engine?

I didn't know the Aero engine 2.8L (280bhp) is a SIDI engine.


No current Saab engine has DI but the Insignia's 220 hp 2 litre has DI.


Nope, the Insignia's 220 hp engine is a MFI.
My guess is that the D-coded engine has about 180 hp.
We 'll wait and see. Can't wait untill the IAA in september.


Yes, I firstly thought of the current 2.0t Engine, but if it is a MFI Engine, then the SIDI Version should have at least 180bhp. I also fits quite well 180bhp, 220 bhp, 260 bhp and 325 bhp for the Aero.

Hope they use a soft Turbo 2L rather than the 1.6L, I think using only 2 different engines is less expensive than 3 :)


What happened to the 2,2 in the Vectra (L-engine I believe it´s called)? That one Is DI. Wonder what made Saab not use it?


IMHO, SAAB has always used their own petrol engines, the V6 is the only exception.

And this engine had a short live.


Good question!
Wasn't a bad engine though.
Good fuel economy.
We should ask mr. Forster or Demant where they're keeping this engine.


Isn't the 2.8L turbo also available in a 280hp tune? 1.6L turbo at 180hp; 2.0L turbo at 220hp and 260hp, V6 at 280hp and 325hp looks pretty good for the gasoline engines lineup.

The diesels worry me though... 160hp and 190 hp diesels leave a gap on the higher powered side of things where the Germans have some pretty strong offerings... maybe SAAB can source the VM V6 engine independently from GM and offer a diesel at around 250hp?


The SIDI engine(Spark Ingition Direct Injection) its an evolution of the L850 GM/lotus engine aluminium block with 1998cc developed by Saab from the original 2.2i L850 engine. As all we know Saab is/was the brain in GM about Turbo tech, and take big responsabilities in anything about this technology. The SIDI tech in some ways is part of the Saab Combustion Control technology showed by Saab in 2001.

One of the big differences with the 2liters from Saab, is a new GenII block, twinscroll turbo,VVT and other features, but all those are thanks to Saab. This engine and some of it tech, appeared in some Media.GM documents since 2004, and part of its tech, was used by Saab in the 2.0 liters and the Global V6 family and concretly the 2.8t

The Insignia Engine is the same as the used in the Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky, Opel GT and this one, the SIDI engine. let's see what Saab developed for the 9-5 engine.

regards


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