Carscoop make amends for "Phil" - post uncovered 2010 Saab 9-5 spyshots

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Damn those timezone differences! And thanks for all the comments and emails about these......

To be honest, I don't want to see these. I know they're inevitable, but I really want to see the car properly, when it's unveiled.

But you can't help but look, can you?

Carscoop have found a 2010 Saab 9-5 out and about somewhere, and snapped a couple of quick images, including an uncovered interior.

Here's a couple of snippets - and here's the link where you'll see them all in their full glory.

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little to see yet.. the interior shots are to be of the worst quality imaginable.. it might look a little dull atm but i'm sure it will look good once the press photos arrive. on the exterior.. it looks well proportioned.. very minimalistic progressive and crisp.
I'm very eager to see more.. couldn't imagine it to look anything like that until now.


We are getting there! :)


I think there is another film on the console hiding the plastic, or the real material isn't being used in the vehicle just yet.

If you go by the reviews already, they are saying the interior is top notch, class leading. Black plastic doesn't get you "class leading", I think there still yet to strip off in that interior.


dddd - you hit the nail on the head about one word, progressive. Having been of one of the few to see the ng 9-5 in sweden a few summers back, it certainly is different. Just wait til the side profile shot comes out!! The pics do NOT do this car justice!! In person it is stunning. For some in a good way, and others in a "wow thats different" stunning!!


patrik by any chance do you know if the interior will feature that green glass cover on the dash?


Wow, that interior shot says allot people.


WHOOAAAAA!!! :-D
Wanna see it with my own eyes!


I am with Charles. If I remember correctly, we were told something in the way, that the interior would make use of "unexpected" materials that would reflect the Scandinavian heritage of the car. My guess would be that neither the prototype of the NG 9-5 and 9-4x carry a fully finished interior.


lol. Were they making a trip to Burger King?


mo,
we were shown a static picture of the interior. it is esentially the "green ice appearance" but it wont be a cover as much as it highlighted by it. But the 9-4X interior is like 96% what we were shown as what the 9-5 will be.


Take a look at the shift paddles.


Is it me or do those A-pillars look as thick as tree trunks? Still great to be getting more and more info as the days creep by.

It seems to get a little better looking each time I see it. Anyone have any idea if there's a wagon/estate mule lurking anywhere yet that we might get a squint at or is it too soon?


good eye talladegan yeh those a pillars are huge, looks like 2x the size of my 9-3.


good eye talladegan yeh those a pillars are huge, looks like 2x the size of my 9-3.


Maybe I am sleepy, but it certainly looks like a chrome Hofmeister kink...?
(The picture with an Astra in the foreground.)


Definitely Ken...well spotted!


The pillars might be deep from this angle but it's the drivers view that's important. I'm sure they have a deeply parabolic profile that makes them narrower from the drivers perspectice (as per the 9-3).


I see the expected hockey stick there, not a hofmeister :) but one can never be 100% sure.


Stereo/NAV system is virtually identical to what we've been shown in the 9-4X.

Anyone able to tell in the pic with the silver car in front whether there's hatch lines ? Seems to me the silver car "conveniently" blocked enough of the rear to prevent us from seeing if it's a hatch or trunk.


is that the 9-4x steering wheel as well?


Yes Chris. Seems 9-4X, 9-5X and a whole whack of new GM cars ALL have the same bloody steering wheel [rolls eyes]. Thank you, Mr. Wagoner [sarcasm]


Everything looks encouraging, but the front lights look just like those off a 9-2...

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/15062-2/Saab_9-2X_09.jpg


I see a trunk Ken.

And I'm with Tiago, it is no Hofmeister Knick.


The silver car doesn't block the fact that you can see the leading edge point of a trunk just below the windsecreen, NO HATCH!

You can clearly see the shutlines and the fact that the trunklid overlaps the bottom or the rear windscreen.


I've searched in the archives for the Insignia with an "unknown" interior.
Now we can say, that was the first picture of the NG 9-5 dashboard.


Opel and Saab Steering wheels will be similar won't be the same.

And sometimes slightly details make huge differences.


The roof is clearly slanting backwards. If you draw a straight line at the same angle from the rear edge of the roof (the inflection point) to the rear edge of the trunk, you end up having a hatch shape (of sorts), not a proper wagon shape. I wonder what the wagon's gonna look like.


The guy seems to be posing for the camera. Staged by Saab?


SAABoy - IMHO the 9-2X's front fascia was quite Saab-esque !

One thing is for SURE. No trunk Griffin badge :-(


Can't wait until it's finally unveiled......


Looking at the reflection in the window in the background of the roofline shot, I'm guessing that the back end of this car is going to look like a 3-way cross between an XF, a Panamera and a GM900, using only the best aspects of those three designs.

Can someone who's seen the car give me a yay or nay on that one? I think this car has the potential to be something truly beautiful, especially to people who know and understand Saab's design language.


A reindeer hide dash?
I'd like to see that.


Holy large dash vents, Batman!

Aside from that, I'm liking what I see....


wow! I am wanting this even more. I love the interior.


Looking good.
It's geting better and better.
Hope that there is true manual transmition
in the mix with Aero


From what I can see this is a sedan... actually I would *almost* go as far as calling it a 4-door Coupe with that rear-end. I don't see a hatch here. Whatever it is - it's going to be amazing. Give me the Aero version please.


Yup, looks like a four-door couple. I'll take a Hirsched 6-speed stick-shift Aero please when my Turbo X lease expires. :)


Doh! Four-door "couple" implies some other things Sweden is popular for...


Just to get of topic for few.
It's reported that SAAB NG 9-5 Aero is hands down
better performer than Opel insignia OPC.
We also know that SAAB 9-5 is larger and weigh more
due size extra insulation, stronger body for crash
protection and more gear/features,yet still outperforms
Opel OPC.
All that lets me belive that 9-5 aero must pack more HP
and torque under hood as well verry good transmition .


Does anyone else see what appears to be a turbo badge on the back right?


That does look like "Turbo" ...But then something else below it. And i can't tell whats on the left side. It looks like more than just 9-5. Or its a rather large 9 with a smaller 5...O_0

I love the rear end. Gah, this will be my next car.


Hi Ken, maybe there is some cladding there, but definitely no "hofmeister" Looks more like the hockeystick idea to me.
BTW, that is no Astra, it's a Signum.


Finally we're starting too see the real thing with the real details. I have 2 observations: There seems to be a chrome strip on the back, in relation to rear lights. If you look closely at the spy shots, it doesn't go all the way out to the edge. This is a bit similar to the XF rear end treatment, but reminds me even more of the Tesla Model S tail lights.
What worries me more though, is the apparent chrome framing around the headlights. This is easily the worst detail of the 9-5 (and of any Saab ever to be honest), and they have decided too keep it?!


Given that we are still one year from release, would one expect that the design is already "fixed"? Are the tools already made to manufacture the interior parts? Or is this some standard stuff from GM, glued in to test the electric circuitry below the skin? And is this the final word on the shape of the backlights? Or will Saab revise them to bring them even more in line with the Aero-X?

Haven't got a clue from what point in time onward we should expect final design decisions. Any suggestions?


Actually I´m with Swade: I´d rather see this car in it´s whole.. Unveiled.
BUT you can´t help looking can you..?

Anyway. I´d say that the rear end is VERY similar to Tiago´s CGI some time back, and thats a good thing!
It looks really sleek and when seen as a complete car and not just som fuzzy spy-pics of parts of the car, I an certain tha it is gonna be stunning!.

One Aero SportCombi for me please!
As for the interior, well the overall layout and design looks fantastic! This is a pre pre production car, and I think we should have this in mind. Indications has shown that ALL of the journos who has driven the car has been positively surprised by the quality of the car and I am confident that the green-icy look is still out there to be displayed in some way or another. (maybe Aero-trim..?)

I support this car to 110% and I´m certain that it will be a hit.
Like I said One Aero please! SportCombi that is :)

Cheers!


Thyl we are only 4 months away fro the preesentation at Frankfurt's IAA.
I think this white beauty is one of the first "pre"-production units.
Design freeze was sometime last year, the tooling has to be done afterwards, and nobody thought at that time production would be moved to Sweden.


From what I can see, it's not a hatch. Another (yawn) 4 door sedan. I'll blame this on GM product planning. But Saab you need to be Saab again and think out of the square. Having a hatcback as well as a wagon and a sedan could easily add 20-35% more sales. No excuses, even lowly Opel has an Insignia hatch.


I have had the time and energy to have a closer look, and by comparing with the checkered car, it does seem that the chrome strip is a definite hockeystick. So yes, I was sleepy...

The car does look good, but it will take good marketing to sell it as part of Saab's downsizing future plan... It's really big, and I am quite sure I will not be considering a car of that size. (Possibly the Citröen C6 one day...)


No griffin? Boooooooo. Elkparts should sell replacement lightbars with griffins on them instead of SAAB.

I don't mind the lack of hatch, provided there's a wagon variant. The next 9-3, however, had better get one.


Swade, my last drawings
were almost 100% real,
will You publish them on the SU?
thanx: Z!


awesome!!,we are getting closer:):)

yeah,it looks like a Turbo-badge is attached to it.


This might well be the first new Saab since the old 900 that actually has a design presence and doesn't feel dated from the start.

I hope the tail will not look as much A6 when it's seen together with the rest of the car.


Looking very promising!

Anyone else see Peugeot 607 in that trunk shape?

Also the hockey stick in chrome, follows the lower edge of the window line and ceases at the top of the rear quarter light - very subtly done, like it!

Rear evokes 607 and A6 but that chrome strip is pure 7 series :(

Wish the SAAB was a little larger too?


Hi Belfast_Saab,
what do you mean with larger ??
It is already quite large.

And you are right, there is from this angle some 607 and some A6 similarity, but my experience looking at parked cars from akward angles is, you can always see another car from a certain point of view, but putting the pieces together you normally get something unique ( or a chinese carbon copy).


Maybe just a little larger - not sure, but it doesn't stand out much - maybe if we see it against a darker paint it will look more noticable, the white seems to drown it out?

Agree that every car has aspects of another - there are only so many ways you can put a box on 4 wheels!

Looking good so far, like the interior shots too, solid, large and driver-centric, pure Saab, not Audi derived either, phew!


Yeah "Elbobo" I have to agree with you there on that one! It definitely looks staged with the way he's just staring at the camera. How long has it been that Saab's been carefully shuttling these cars around to no avail of a clear shot of either the interior or an un-camo portion of the car in any form and now all of a sudden these emerge... It's looking very good though. Can barely wait to see the final car unveiled!!!


It will be somewhere in between the 5-series and the 7-series.

So I suppose large enough.


Me,
I think the "Wish the SAAB was a little larger" remark was about the size of the logo, not the size of the car.


Did somebody notice the Knob near the gearshifter ?

I can read OFF on the knob and the Symbol loks like the TCS Symbol.

Does it mean the driver will be able to change the TCS-Settings ?


Yep,
sorry Belfast_Saab.


Hello,
could that small text below "Turbo" be XWD. If I squint my eyes I can just about see it :)


No problem, from what we hear, the 9-5 is big enough!


Could that be the ejection seat for the mother-in-law or better yet missiles that hunt down and kill BMWs!?


Guys
I like what I see.
Beautiful design: sporty, distinctive, innovative ....... in other words a REAL SAAB......
I feel this car will be turning our fortune around.
C


Check out the swooping lines of the dash. Look at how much it dips down from the peak of the drivers area to way low near the passenger's side


no me gusta the center stack --nav is off, and the radio/ACC buttons are all GM weird. Also don't like the door pulls.


On the new interior pictures the rear view mirrors are the "old/ugly" huge pointy triangle style I think.

The newer wrapped exterior pictures *seem* to have a different mirror on them that is more rounded on the top and toned down.

I think these interior pictures are older by at least a couple months.


HI Konrad,
the good thing about Exif is, you get a lot of info about the pictures.
The interior pictures were taken this week. There are some prototypes with Insignia rear mirrors, I think the first ones. So the pictures aren't old, but the prototype. So I think some surfaces hadn't the final material.

Maybe this is why SAAB showed the interior.


Charles to me it looks like 9-5 with the 5 in superscript, on the right it looks like Turbo then another letter (could be an F, but not sure), then the XWD logo below, so could be an Aero but the lack of big spoiler/ bodykit makes me doubt that too.


Yay back to complicated IPs


What I get from those pics is that we're getting a sedan with a rear end treatment that many will call '4-door-coupe' but that in reality seems heavily inspired by the rear end design of the SAAB 99... I also think camo makes the rear overhang look longer, which in turn makes the car look much longer than it really is.


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