Djup Strupe and the Saab 9-3 convertible

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Djup Strupe's scored an interesting whole truth.

Via my inbox:

9-3 Convertible Production Planning

The important work to take Saab successfully through the reorganisation is going as planned. An important step in creating a profitable new Saab Automobile involves changing/improving our production footprint and capacity utilisation. As part of these changes, production of the 9-3 Convertible will be temporarily halted for approx 6 months (from the middle of July until end of calendar year 2009). To minimise the negative impact of this production stop it has been deliberately timed to take place in the "low season" for Convertible sales

I guess those negotiations with Magna Steyr have been finalised now.....

It's good to see everything coming home to Trollhattan. Not that the convertible being made by Magna was ever a source of objection. They did a great job on a great vehicle. but these are tough times, exciting times, and it just seems right that the whole family starts off "together" in the same place at this time of rebirth for the company.

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It's also a nice reminder about how long it takes to accomplish things in the automotive industry.

You'd think it's a matter of just unbolting some robots and moving them from Austria to Sweden. I could do that with a socket set, a hoist and a U-Haul, right?

Wrong. This is a long term business. Sometimes we propose finger-snap solutions and wonder why they haven't been done, or can't be done by next month.

When it takes six months to move production of an already-developed vehicle, you can get an idea of the real timeframes involved in designing and building one from scratch.



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Great post with great news. Also shows a bit the complexity involved in this business.


I think Magna/Steyr did a fine job with the convertible, but it is good nonetheless to see it go back "home". Although technically home for the 9-3 vert should be just east of Sweden. ;)

No question about the complexity of the auto industry. A bit off topic, but I still believe that the ever increasing already rapid model refresh cycles have slimmed out the margins for everyone. The ROI period per model has been significantly shortened during the past couple of decades, forcing even the likes of BMW to seek more sales via line up expansion.


I have a question. When can we expect the assembly line to be set up for the new 9-5 in Trollhattan? If it takes six months to move the CV line I can only assume that Opel is letting go of the 9-5 line as we speak. When are the first cars due off the line?

Didnt win the lottery last night. Bugger. I wanted to be the first to order a brand new 9-5 and then head off and pick it up in person. Maybe next week bu then again maybe not! :(


Would be great if they had the funds to re-tool some of it in that time too!


Didn't we read the ng9-5 was for spring 2010? With the taped up cars we have seen, they are a ways from full production.


Hey, have I mentioned I wouldn't buy a 9-3 cab from Ira Rennert? I would buy one from Magna.


I'm looking to buy my next Saab as a convertible. I'm sure it will be one that was assembled by Magna,...Yes Indeed!


Would you buy one from Koenigsegg? :)


Whoever buys Saab, you'll be buying a car from Saab. It will not be Saab's fault whoever it's parent company becomes. I have never supported GM's ownership but I still own a 9-3. Yes protest against the new owner if you don't like it, but don't penalize Saab, because it won't have a choice.

If a whole lot of people stop buying Saabs because Renco buys the company, it'll hurt Saab far more than Ira Rennert. Saab doesn't deserve that after 20 years of struggle with GM.

I say this to all of you who would consider not buying another Saab because Renco becomes the new owner. Find another way to protest but don't blame Saab.

Okay, I'm getting off the soapbox now...


@ Kroum You are killing me!

Markac Not me, my friend. I would not buy a Saab from Rennert or anyone else who knowingly poisons children. I don't blame Saab but won't give Rennert my money for profit goes into his pocket.

GM shouldn't sell Saab to Renco, Period.


none, McDonalds poisons children with their dodgy food. Coke kills kids with all the chemicals in their soda. Getting a child immunised is killing them as there is mercury - the second most toxic subsatnce on the planet - in ALL vaccinations.

Would you rather Saab went under? Hell I wouldnt!


according to the Acura tv commercial I just saw, Saab is not a 'premium' car. Volvo was in the line-up. Go figure. Maybe Acura is desperate to be noticed these days.

as to the six month production halt - if sales were strong and inventory low, I am sure they could move everything in ninety days.

ah well, it's only the "low season for convertible sales" for the Northern Hemisphere. Aren't all of you Southern Hemisphere Saab lovers used to this?
After all, you can never host the Winter Olympics...



Karen, wouldn't be surprised if Dubai bid and won a future Winter Olympics... They will just build a fake air-conditioned mountain.

As for Honda/Acura, instead of making commercials they should focus on hiring some designers who did not graduate from the manga school. Sheesh, their cars look just horrible!


Karen, it's often too hot to have the top down here in Oz (mainland anyway) in summer. Better to have the top up and aircon on when it's 35 degrees Celsius plus! It would be nice in the evening though.


None, you have to make your own choices I suppose. But as I said, people not buying Saabs will mostly hurt Saab, it's employees and it's suppliers. It won't hurt Ira Remnnert too much and if Saab flounders, he'll break it up and sell of the parts.


I will be buying Saabs in the future. If you dont wanns hurt anyone, you better knit your own clothes etc.


I wonder if the 9-3 convertible now can come with XWD. It's maybe not important now that the V6 is no more.

And I would buy a Saab from the devil himself! :D


Sorry, but even if you'd won the lottery, you can't preorder them just yet. I've already tried to do that :)


In order to reduce costs, will they then use the conv doorhandles on the 9-3SS and 9-3SC ???

Martin, do you know the options available ? Or what have you tried to preorder ??


Please, stop spreading anti-vaccination crap and learn some science-based medicine - you know, medicine that actually help people and save lives. The rate of autism has nothing to do with vaccination despite what idiots like Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carry are trying to say.


production "pause" scares me!
sounds a bit like strategic diction, doesn't it?


I just wonder what Saab's production this year will be. Guess it is a good year to do those changes in. And yes, it is complicated. As Swade say, is not just about moving some tools. You have to totally re-route the logistics of parts to the factory and new cars from the factory, and the world-wide distribution chain for that model has to be changed completely. Lot's of contracts and negotiation outside the Magna one to take care of. Although I love the fact that the Trollhättan plant will (hopefully) be busy in the future, it scares me a bit having *all* of Saab's production concentrated to one single place.


I think the reasons they didn't do XWD on the convertible was because of keeping the cost down and traditionally people that buy the convertibles live in warmer climates that don't necessarily require the need of AWD. Which I really wish Saab wouldn't do is market XWD as a winter only necessity. AWD was designed for performance and this system would be top notch in delivering that mantra for them.


If this is low season for convertibles, that narrows where this came from. Must have been sent in a Northern Hemisphere market - that rules out half the world for possible secret underground location of Djup Strupe hideout...


ctm, don't disregard what Zippy says. All those pharmaceutical companies are just as much interested in your health as oil companies are concerned about the environment. Imagine if their medicines where 100% up to performance, what would they sell if less people got sick? What would electronics companies sell if their stuff didn't break all the time? Most things today are designed to break/under-perform so that corporations can keep the money flowing with new 'improvements'. Pharmaceuticals are no exception.


I don't want to prolong the pharma discussion here, but seeing you raised it, ctm...

My nephew in Vancouver is around 14 years old and his parents pin his autism quite squarely on the triple vaccination he had as a youngster, which they were hesitant about him having, too. They've been in and out of courts there for years.

It's only one case, but a personal one and they're quite sure about the cause and when his behaviour changed.


As I have understood it, the assembly line for the NG9-5 is being preped and Saab is just waiting for the last pieces in the tool puzzle. So fixing the last details will not be that hard or take to much time. Saab is looking at an early 2010 NG9-5 delivery.

The new owner that is due to sign papers next week would want the ball to get rolling realy fast I guess and the billion Sek that Saab will recieve for the comming summer months before the EIB loans comes along will sort of kick start the company..


"McDonalds poisons children with their dodgy food."
That's why I never go there with my son.

"Coke kills kids with all the chemicals in their soda."
Kids will be toothless before they die of it. Just don't give it to kids.

"Getting a child immunised is killing them as there is mercury - the second most toxic subsatnce on the planet - in ALL vaccinations. "
I'd be careful with vaccines, mercury or not. If you only give the 2-3 really vital ones I can't imagine the risk is high for instant and painful death...


I know a fair deal about this, but I'll spare Swade having his Saab blog turned into a war about this since. Just trust me when I say that in a few years time those anti-vaccination people will have gone elsewhere, having found something else Oprah like to promote. ;)


Yes, I think it was too expensive to equip the Magna production with XWD capabillity. But now when the convertible production is moved back to Trollhättan I would think that the decision could be reconsidered.


Makes sense to move it all to Sweden. Not a capacity increase but a utilisation one by moving the convertible home. The units of the convertible will absorb part of Trollhättan/SAAB fixed cost structure.


@ Zippy I agree with you 100%. I don't buy or eat McDonalds and I don't buy or drink Coke. Do you? And I won't buy a Saab from a guy who knowingly poisons children no matter the rationalization. What's the problem with that? I'm quite certain it's my choice what to buy as it is yours. I would never say you are wrong if you wanted a Saab from Rennert, it's your choice.

I can offer nothing useful on vaccines.

@ Pedro They HAVE to move all the capacity they can that fits their lines to Trollhattan. I can guarante the factory is operating at less than 50% and is, today, losing money in buckets. Normally, a the most efficient factory has to operate at >80% capacity or it loses money. The 9-3 is a must and Saab needs more volume.


XWD was not meant for the 9-3 Epsilon platform. It is a feat of engineering that SAAB engineers were able to get XWD to work with it. The convertibles "endo-skeleton" takes up too much room to be able to add XWD to a platform that is not supposed to be able to support it in the first place.


@Nate 9-3: You are correct, Saab has stated that they didn't have the room for the plumbing in the convertible for the all wheel drive. I just wish they were able to do it. Audi does it. Having the Cross Wheel Drive would make the Saab an all around all year car. On the other hand, I have no problems with my front wheel drive Saab convertible in the New York winters, so, the question is: Do you really need all wheel drive?


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