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It’s Renco vs Fiat for ownership of Saab – maybe

May 28, 2009 in Saabology

Some time soon, Saab will announce who their new owner is.
In the past on this site, I’ve made very-well-educated guesses as to who’s who in this drama and if the final three aren’t who I’ve proposed, I’m still promising that nudie run outside GT.se’s offices (as long as their writer, Jan-Erik Berggren, promises the same if he’s wrong).
I’m making not-so-well-educated guesses in this post, but I still feel very confident in my predictions.
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FIAT
If FIAT are still in the game – and Maud Olofsson’s saying they are – then it’s because someone is happy to circumvent the proper process and let them through the back door.
Let me reiterate again – FIAT were not one of the original bidders and are not one of the official final three. But that doesn’t seem to mean that the door is shut to them.
And nor should it be, IMHO.
I was opposed – and still am – to the idea of Saab being brought into a huge conglomerate with Opel still in the fold. They’ve been there with GM and they don’t need to go there again.
But it looks like FIAT are going to miss out on Opel. And that opens a door for Fiat and Saab in my mind. There are a number of people at Saab that I’ve spoken with in the last few weeks – and a number of Swedes outside of Saab – who are in favour of a takeover by Opel FIAT.
The Italians and the Swedes seem to work well together, for starters, and Saab seem to feel that they’ve got something substantial to contribute to Fiat.
Perhaps Fiat leaves a better taste in the political mouths of the Swedes, too, which brings us to….
Renco
It’s been all quiet on the Renco front. But I have a feeling that the PR crew at Saab are working overtime trying to figure out how they’re going to sell Renco to the general public.
I’ll go on the record here and now. Out of the three official bidders that I believe are in the running for Saab – Renco, Koenigsegg and BAIC – I think Renco is the most likely to win the day.
I’ve heard rumours that Ira Rennert may have lost a truckload of cash when Wall St rogue Bernie Madoff went under, but he’s still well connected and said to have a personal wealth of as much as $6 billion.
He’s well connected, should be well funded, and familiar with the suits at GM. What he wants with Saab is unknown, but according to Saab all three bidders have seen Saab’s business plan, have committed to it and have proven they’ve got the funding to carry out what they’ve committed to.
Some have wondered whether Renco are really involved given that the Greens in Sweden reviewed the contenders and gave their thumbs up. Folks – it says more about politicians and marketing than anyone else and no-one should be surprised by a politician making the best of a photo opportunity.
I’ll place my bet on Renco winning the prize. I may not like it, but I think that’s the way things will go.
We’ll see in a few weeks, I guess.
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The others.
I get the increasing feeling that whilst they’re probably the most cashed up of the lot, the Chinese bidders are out of this race. Whether it’s reluctance on their part after seeing an opportunity for a bigger fish in Opel, or reluctance on the part of GM or the Swedish government, or both, I think they’re out of this race.
Whispers are coming down the lines that Koenigsegg weren’t as well funded as the others, which may be a big obstacle.
You’ve all seen the Saab marketing posters where they mention a 9-4x and a 9-5 and maybe a smaller Saab coming down the line….. I think that the bidders who could see the value in planning for a smaller Saab and made some inclusion of this in their plans for Saab were probably better received than others.
Just my 0.02c
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Le Figaro are claiming that Fiat are one of “the three.”
GT.se now say that Ripplewood, who were until recently a bidder for Opel via their spinoff company, RHJ, are one of “the three” and the likely winner.
Both incorrect. Nudie runs.

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One hurdle still to come before a Saab buyer is announced

May 28, 2009 in Archive

UPDATED – thanks to SR in comments……

Ah, the things you overlook when things are busy….
We’re all eagerly awaiting some sort of announcement from Saab with regards to who their new owner might be.
By the way, I’m betting on it being Renco. I don’t like it, but that’s who I (still) think will win the day. More on that later….
But in my own haste and absence from writing here in the last few days, I overlooked one important thing that Saab have to tick off their list before they can enter the final stages of negotiations with their most likely party.
Saab are still awaiting approval from the courts in Vanersborg for their ‘composition’ proceedings an extension to their reconstruction application, which will give them to August 20 to get things tied up.
A ruling from the court is expected on Friday, so Saab could possibly be in a position to ink some signatures some time next week.
Via a news story at DN.se (thanks to ctm!) we can see that the only concern with this decision is a supplier who wasn’t happy about Saab being a little late paying the rent. They’ve said that as long as Saab are on time with the next payment, everything should be fine.

Saab also have to gain approval for their composition proceedings, which involve Saab gaining approval from creditors to slash the amount owed to them by 75% and prolong payment of this remaining amount for up to a year.
That’s a big bitter pill for any supplier to swallow and it will put them all under some sort of duress, but the Saab people will say that it’s better than the lesser amount they’d receive otherwise and with no future possibility of further contracts (if Saab were to go under).
Support is believed to be strong for this proceeding and GM, being Saab’s largest creditor, have approved the proposal. The news around town is that more than 50% of the proxies received so far have also approved, including the Swedish customs service, who were one of the shaky ones last week when composition proceedings began.

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Opel buyout talks collapse – danke GM!!

May 28, 2009 in Archive

You European types are all over this already, I know, but for the late sleepers out there…..
German officials held 12 hour talks last night with the bidders for Opel and the end result of this marathon?
One potential owner withdrawing from the talks and quite possibly, the whole sale, and a 300million Euro hole.

Talks aimed at saving General Motors Europe’s Opel unit broke down amid acrimony between Germany and the United States on Thursday as fears mounted for tens of thousands of jobs across Europe.
The marathon negotiations were aimed at finding a suitable buyer for GM’s struggling European operations, with the German government willing to offer billions of euros (US dollars) in loan guarantees to any potential investor.
Two bidders, Italian car giant Fiat and Canadian auto parts maker Magna International remained in the race after a third bidder, Brussels-based investment firm RHJ International pulled out during the talks.
German officials blamed the breakdown on a last-minute request from GM for an extra 300 million euros (415 million US dollars) of funds for Opel, lashing out at General Motors for “scandalous” negotiating tactics.

“We are not amused” would be an understatement….

Speaking to reporters in the early morning, German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck said: “We were unpleasantly surprised when this new demand came out of the blue at 8:00pm local time (1800GMT). We found that pretty scandalous.”
“GM again confronted us with new figures,” said Economy Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, adding that the US government “could have made more of an effort” with its choice of representative at the discussions.
“We have made a fresh request to the US Treasury and we expect a response before Friday,” he said, calling its input so far “marginal, to put it politely.”

I’m not sure there’s a limit to the number of people GM can annoy during one calendar year, but they’re sure exploring the outer limits.
New talks are scheduled for Friday, after the participants get a chance to catch up on some much-needed sleep, and in the case of the German officials, do some of that pesky running-the-rest-of-the-country stuff.
And for Saab…….?

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GM Bankruptcy and Saab

May 28, 2009 in Archive

UPDATED!!
There’s a new article from Fairfax press here in Australia which covers a little of the comment from Saab. The GP article, below, has more details, though.

Saab Automobile, owned by US giant General Motors, was confident it would find a new owner and not be impacted by a possible bankruptcy of its US owner.
“We are working on our process, and GM is selling Saab and that process is not impacted at present,” Saab spokeswoman Gunilla Gustavs told Swedish radio news.
Gustavs said the group was “optimistic” and the attempt to find a new owner “was in its final stretch.”

Thanks Richo!
The GP article is below…..
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With GM’s entrance into Chapter 11 looming closer by the day, many are wondering how it might effect Saab and their reconstruction and new-ownership plans.
The following article appeared in the Gothenburg Post.
A few notables in this Googletrans:
1) Saab’s new models and the tooling are all covered and paid for.
2) Saab are technically owned by a Canadian subsidiary of GM
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Saab ‘sit quiet in the boat”
Saab Automobile say they sit calmly in the boat despite the storms around owner General Motors.
- Our plan will continue, regardless of GM’s position,” said Joe Oliver, spokesperson for Saab, told TT.
- We are on track to cut Saab [out from GM] and into an independent company and align with a new owner. The work is ongoing and will continue whatever happens with GM. We feel no panic,” he continues.
While Saab is completely dependent on GM’s cash. Since the month-long state wage has ceased Saab during reconstruction paid suppliers and salaries with borrowed money from GM. The loan is 150 million U.S. dollars, equivalent to 1.1 billion. Approximately one third have already gone to.
The question is what happens to the money if GM goes into some form of bankruptcy.
- The money is in an account earmarked for Saab and as the administrator has access. What we know so far, the account will not be affected,” said Joe Oliver.
Saab and GM believes that the chances of survival depend on the creditors agreeing to forgive a large part of their debts. For Saab’s part, GM is by far the largest creditor, with 90 percent of the debts of 10.5 billion kronor. GM has said that it agrees to Saab’s proposal for a composition, where only 25 percent of the debt is due within one year. But chords hearing is not until June 17 when GM might be contained in a reorganization.
GM has also promised to pay for the tools to build Saab’s new models, including the Saab 9-5. There are costs in 1,5-2 billion.
Saab remains formally owned by a Canadian subsidiary of GM. The sale will be under the administrator’s lawyer Guy Lofalks plan made clear in June.
There are ongoing negotiations with the three remaining speculators. This week, they have resulted in that only one candidate is left, but on Wednesday was the three. In all cases, according to Saab’s official version.
The speculation talk the most about Italian Fiat and the Canadian Magna, which also presented bids for the Opel, Chinese car maker Geely, Swedish sports car manufacturer Koenigsegg, backed by Norwegian financiers, and Renco Group is a U.S. investment company.
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I think the overwhelming message there is that Saab should be able to proceed with their plans despite GM’s bankruptcy proceedings. Saab are such a small part of the process that I’m sure the courts in the US will allow things to proceed without a blink.

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Saab Officially on Flickr

May 28, 2009 in Archive

Saab have been getting more and more into the interactive media scene in recent times. It’s heartening to see, though I’d still love to sit down with them and have a chat about doing it in a more cohesive manner.
The potential is huge for a company that wants to connect to their enthusiast community properly and if Saab don’t take ownership of it themselves, others are going to set stuff up that looks very Saaby, but isn’t genuine.
I’ve already been tapped about one such venture and to my surprise, I received an email from them this morning saying “thanks for subscribing” – an act that I hadn’t committed to at all.
And the scary part about it is that it looked like the real deal. I thought it was from Saab themselves. And others will too.
Note to Saab – you need to cover your bases and tie it all up on a proper website to disseminate the news, provide the proper company perspective, and distribute goodies to your fans. Do it properly and reap the rewards.
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One such move is an official Saab company account on Flickr.
There’s not much there, but I like the recent addition of Saab copmany ads being posted there. They’re not huge, but it’s good to see them online in a form that people can download and share.
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A SOTW photo to break up all this BAIC/Opel/Saab news

May 27, 2009 in Archive

I’m not sure where Caldwell Park is, but it sure looks like fun.
Some incredible Saabs in this set at Flickr. Go take a look when you get sick of reading all the Chinese stuff, below.
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I’m off to get some Z’s. It’s been a long day. It’s good to be back home!

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Summary: the emergence of BAIC

May 27, 2009 in Archive

We have a few stories coming out today about Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Company (BAIC).
I think there will be more to come. And I think we’re looking at the Chinese company that has placed a bid for Saab.
How it’s all happened:
BAIC were identified as being a company that placed a late bid for Opel. Their bid is most likely very well funded, being authorised by the Chinese government, but as it was late, GM are said to be ignoring it and dealing only with the three bidders for Opel who have already been identified (FIAT, Magna and RHJ).
German publication, FAZ.net, wrote that BAIC were using a German Bank to front for them in negotiations. And this is the important link.
All sources have said that Saab had a Chinese bidder amongst the ranks. Geely were ruled out by their own admission and externally to me by several sources. That bidder was not known, however.
GT.se and Auto Motor and Sport both mentioned that a German Bank was in on the process. GT.se had the opinion – several times – that the Germans were fronting for GM as a control in the negotiations. AMS heard that it was Magna.
I think it was BAIC and that this is the Chinese company that are bidding for Saab.
The questions that remain now are:

  • If they’re interested in Opel, does that mean they’ve lost interest in Saab?
  • Would GM be interested in dealing with them?

One interesting thing about BAIC bidding on Saab is that would quite possibly take the Swedish government out of the equation as a deciding factor. I’m sure they’d still have an influence somehow, but BAIC would be financed so well that the EIB loans the Swedish government have offered to guarantee would quite possibly not be required.

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The BAIC plot thickens…..

May 27, 2009 in Archive

The story of Beijing Automotive’s interest in European vehicle manufacturers continues to unfold.
This is a rather poor Googletrans from a German publication, FAZ.net, which includes a little info on BAIC and who’s been representing them.

Meanwhile, BAIC [unknown trans] a large German bank with the mandate to safeguard their interests in order to – in spite of the expiry dates of previous bidders – yet to be considered. BAIC is already a partner of the German auto group Daimler. Among the Chinese leadership to be Opel brand will be occurring globally, there is no product overlap. BAIC wants information from this newspaper after 4 billion euros in loan guarantees. The bid is the support of the sole shareholder, the City of Beijing.

What that’s saying is that BAIC have been working through a large German bank, making them a faceless part of the negotiations.
Now if you’ll remember back to last week, there were stories around of a German bank being one of the three bidders for Saab. GT.se had them pegged as a front for General Motors, which I’ve dismissed here several times.
But this makes sense now. Saab had a Chinese bidder. That much I know. GT.se and AMS heard that a German bank was representing someone.
I think FAZ.net in persuing the Opel story have cracked they mysterious German bank and who they’re representing in the Saab story.

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GM fail to get bondholder support – will file for bankruptcy

May 27, 2009 in Archive

We all knew this was coming as a result of recent events, but here’s the story on how it’s broken down in the last 24 hours.
From Automotive News:

DETROIT/NEW YORK (Reuters) — General Motors has failed to persuade enough bondholders to accept a debt-for-equity swap, setting the stage for the largest-ever U.S. industrial bankruptcy within days.
The event marks a critical disappointment for GM, once considered the bellwether of U.S. manufacturing….
…..The largest U.S. automaker had so far failed to gain anywhere near the 90 percent of bondholder support desired to stave off bankruptcy, two sources familiar with the discussions told Reuters on Tuesday. Bondholders had until midnight to make their final decision on the tender.
As of midday Tuesday, the source said the company had only a “low-single-digit” percentage interest from bondholders……
…..GM had no comment on the bond exchange. The automaker said it would detail results of the exchange today. Reuters sources said GM could file for bankruptcy some time after midnight Tuesday but before June 1.

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From GM:

The exchange offers expired at 11:59 p.m. EDT on May 26, 2009, at which time the principal amount of notes tendered was substantially less than the amount required by GM to satisfy the debt reduction requirement under its loan agreements with the U.S. Department of the Treasury, to meet the debt reduction objectives under its viability plan, or to meet the minimum tender condition of the exchange offers as required by the U.S. Treasury. Since these conditions, as well as certain other conditions, have not been satisfied, the exchange offers will not be consummated.

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Memo to GM – don’t take Saab down with you.
Make your final act where Saab is concerned a good one by choosing a good new owner.
It’s the least you can do after so many years of neglect.

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WSJ: Chinese too late for Opel

May 27, 2009 in Archive

The Wall St Journal are reporting that whilst Beijing Automotive (BAIC) have sent an expression of interest for Opel, they were too late and that GM are not going to entertain their interest.

BEIJING – General Motors Corp. has received from Beijing Automotive Industry Holding an expression of interest in acquiring the U.S. auto maker’s German Adam Opel GmbH unit, but does not plan to pursue getting an offer from the Chinese auto maker, according to a person familiar with the matter.
GM received a letter from Beijing Auto Thursday last week, one day after the bid deadline. The letter, however, did not include a specific offer for Opel, the person said.
An official in Beijing Auto’s media relations department said Wednesday the company had no information to announce on the topic.

The presence of a Chinese bid for Opel was first mentioned by Germany’s Economic Minister, Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg, because they deemed the existing offers from Magna, FIAT and RHJ to be insufficient.
FIAT has since lowered its demands for loan guarantees.
Magna is emerging as the government and union favourite, though some industry experts are apparently sill very wary of them, saying they don’t have sufficient cash.
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German officials are meeting with US and GM officials later today as they want to get this finalised before GM get pulled into Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.
Its interesting that no news is coming out of Sweden conveying the same urgency, but then Saab is a much smaller piece of the pie and spokespersons at Saab seem quite convinced that GM’s chapter 11 proceedings wouldn’t have much impact on Saab’s sale.

But if a GM bankruptcy is imminent, it is nothing that affects Saab Automobile in Trollhättan.
- Not very practical, no. We are working on with our process and assumes that GM sells Saab and the current situation does not affect the bankruptcy process at all, “says Gunilla Gustavs, Information Officer for Saab, to Swedish Radio West.

Thanks Dippen!
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The news that GM will not entertain this bid from BAIC means that they’re possibly back in the game with Saab – if they were ever out.

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The curious case of BAIC, Opel and Saab

May 27, 2009 in Archive

The Beijing Automotive Industry Holdings Company, or BAIC, has emerged in the news as a late bidder for Opel.
From Reuters:

Chinese carmaker Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Co (BAIC) has submitted an offer to buy Opel, a source close to BAIC told Reuters on Tuesday.
BAIC’s plan envisions preserving all four Opel plants in Germany for at least two years and foresees no job cuts in the country, a financial source said, adding the concept called for less than 5 billion euros in state aid.
BAIC would invest 660 mln euros in equity.

This is especially interesting not only for Opel-watchers, but for Saab-watchers as well. A few days ago, I wrote this here at Saabs United:

There’s some talk coming from Djup Strupe to the effect that GM Europe might be stalling the Saab sale process a little. The word is that Deutsche Bank are actually having a hard time getting GME on the phone to make a decision of any consequence.
Maybe the Opel deal has them all tied up. I hope we still get a decision soon, even if it’s not announced, just to know that it’s been made will start the closure process.

I’m now quite convinced that the two are related.
I’m pretty confident in stating that BAIC were one of the Chinese companies that toured the Saab facility and with Geely out of the running, they could quite possibly be the Chinese bidder amongst the final group of three bidders.
This last-minute grab for Opel could well be why things have gone quiet between Deutsche Bank and GM Europe in relation to Saab. An extra bid to evaluate would tie up some resources.
And then there’s the question about whether BAIC are still interested in Saab given their apparent interest in Opel. Do they want both, like FIAT did? Or have they lost interest in Saab, or been told they’re not going to be successful with Saab?
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BAIC has long-term partnerships with DaimlerChrysler and Hyundai, as well as joint venture operations with Lear, Visteon and Johnson Controls. They also make their own group of rip-off designs for their domestic market.

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No ‘right’ owner for Saab?

May 26, 2009 in Saabology

I’ve had to travel 40 kms on a killer winding road just to check my email and write this. And here I sit in a community online center listening to some guy called ‘David’ yapping away in the background about how life’s so hard and he doesn’t know whether to stay here or move to Newcastle and someone’s messing with his business and something about surface to air missiles……….surface to air missiles??????
Anyway…..
Thankfully nothing’s changed with Saab whilst I’ve been away. Hopefully that’ll continue for another short while until I get home.
In the meantime, I’d like to promote this comment from Kroum to be a post here on the front page. It was written in response to some debate over current ownership prospects and like others, I thought it pretty well constructed.
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I think this very healthy debate could use a sober retrospect of Saab’s previous ownership history and the individual drawbacks and benefits associated with each. For 60 years of existence, Saab has roughly had three parents.
The original Saab – the plane-maker cum military conglomerate – is of course the mother of Saab Automobile. Romanticism aside, the car unit was not really profitable and Saab AB lacked the resources needed to grow the marquee. A few times there were suggestions it merge with Volvo. Pros from this era included freedom to design and execute, world-leading safety expertise, access to advanced engineering resources within the hotbed of Swedish industrial innovation and hi tech research, the association with a jet-maker (exploited early on in Saab’s U.S. marketing), the numerous wins in motor sports. Cons: limited economies of scale, lack of investment in new technologies, rising labour costs in Sweden which troubled Saab’s then value brand image.
Saab ended up married to truck- and coach-maker Scania and as we all know Saab-Scania was a very tense relationship due to the fact that Scania’s profits were consistently being cannibalized by it’s little brother Saab. Under Investor AB, the two, however, had more in common than the automotive division had with the aerospace mother company. Rising labour costs coupled with increased R&D forced Saab to consider moving up-market in order to remain somewhat competitive. Part of this effort was designing a large V8 engine to compete with the other luxury marquees in North America. This project ended up being replaced by means of borrowing Scania’s expertise in turbocharging and adapting it to an automobile with all the associated engineering and endurance requirements. Turbocharging instantly became a Saab trademark trait.
Saab, however, continued to struggle to make profit and unable (or unwilling) to further invest in the unit, so it could grow, Investor AB ended up selling it to General Motors, at that time still a mega-corporation ontop of the world. A controversial part of Saab’s history to be sure, but at long last Saab was part of an automaker and could thus gain access to platforms, parts and enormous economies of scale. We all know it didn’t work, and there is probably no single answer to the question “why?”. GM did not really understand Saab and for the most part was not very willing to invest. Their idea was to utilize Opel platforms and parts bins for all theur European operations, which of course ran counter to Saab’s core philosophy of being, if not better, at least different. The Swedes also proved a rather unruly bunch, pissing off GM at many an occasion to the point where after the development of the new 9-3 was completed GM was seriously considering shuttering Saab. The punishment came with split personality – part Subaru, part Chevy Trailblazer. And just as the two seemed to finally get to understand each other, GM entered he final stage of its long, agonizing trip down the death spiral.
What I’m getting at is that at the end of the day Saab’s destiny is that of a trouble child. L’enfant terrible, yes. So it doesn’t matter if the owner is a jet maker and a military conglomerate (Saab AB), a heavy equipment maker (Scania), an investment group (Investor AB) or a large diverse automaker (GM). It doesn’t matter is Saab has freedom to do as it wishes or if it is tightly restricted and works under a budget… No matter what the circumstances and who the owner, Saab will be Saab and this is part of its charm. Under the moving designs, practical hatchbacks, turbocharged engines and class leading safety there is this difficult character. It is a critical part of Saab’s infamous quirkiness – the quirk in quirkiness itself.
So in summary: there is no “right owner” for Saab.
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Saab will have a new owner. Soon.
Regardless of who they are, I’m looking forward to it and the way Saab develops into the future. It’s going to be challenging in a number of ways, but it’s a trip I’m looking forward to.
My time on this PC is up. Can’t wait to get home to regular access again.
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I’m sorry about doing this, but if there’s any important news, please continue to keep yourselves informed. We will return to regular services here very soon.
Please be kind to one another.
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And “none”, let me save you some time: we’re all aware of the fact that you won’t buy a Saab from Renco.
We’re all aware. Thanks.

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Pollhattan Saab and Make your own news …..Snippets

May 25, 2009 in Archive

OK, it’s time to try that Saab ownership poll once again.
The options are the same, except I’m just looking for first preferences here. Who do you want as #1.
GRRRRRRRRRRR – It seems any poll I try ends up in an IE abort. Freaking software giving me the irrits!!!!!
Hopefully this one will work OK.
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I am away with work again, and pretty remote this time, so I’m not going to be able to access news as easily as usual.
I’m not expecting anything big until mid-week, when The US government might push GM a little early into bankruptcy proceedings.
If there’s anything big happening, please keep each other informed in comments.
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I had my first episode of carsickness in years today. And I was driving!!
Mount Arrowsmith is the longest rally stage in Targa Tasmania and as I was driving that road today, I thought I’d give it a burst. A beautiful road, by the way. You should come and drive it.
My problem was that I’d eaten something that wasn’t agreeing with me, so all the twists and turns, whilst fun, left me a little green around the gills.
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There’s some talk coming from Djup Strupe to the effect that GM Europe might be stalling the Saab sale process a little. The word is that Deutsche Bank are actually having a hard time getting GME on the phone to make a decision of any consequence.
Maybe the Opel deal has them all tied up. I hope we still get a decision soon, even if it’s not announced, just to know that it’s been made will start the closure process.
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I’ve been thinking about the Koenigsegg bid some more and you know….I’m reeally getting seduced by it.
I can barely see a downside.
Yes, scale is an issue, but Saab management will still be in place and are used to running the Saab site. One must assume that the pockets Koenigsegg are fronting for are deep enough.
The marketing side is a HUGE upside. It’s not that Saabs and K-Seggs would be in the same showrooms together, because they won’t.
It’s just the association.
You know how motoring journos immediately write about the association, which in GM terms means bad things like badge engineering, etc. Here, the association is nothing but cool, totally Swedish and desireable to anyone with a pulse.
The only possible downside I can see is a systems issue to do with ordering, parts, communications, dealers, etc. Saab have been integrated into the GM system for some time, so setting up a new one could be a drag.
But I like the idea more and more.

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2010 Saab 9-5 VIN decoder

May 25, 2009 in Archive

Found on a GM website on the internets, what we have here is a preliminary VIN key for the upcoming 2010 Saab 9-5. Click to enlarge.
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Now, I say it’s a preliminary VIN decoder because there are some details that we know have changed from this.

  • Russelsheim’s out the door.
  • The 2.9l diesel is out the door as well as GM gave up on it.
  • There’s most likely going to be a 1.6T engine as well, which isn’t mentioned here.

Still, it’s a little bit of insider fun for those prospective new 9-5 owners of the future.

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Saab ownership = serial monogamy?

May 24, 2009 in Archive

We own two Saabs.
My mate Turbin in Victoria owns two Saabs. So does SAB, as does Alex. Drew B has so many I’ve lost count. Greg Abbott has multiples – and those five people are just the first five that pop into my head. Joe Lobo, Hawkeye. I’m pretty sure Eggs still has two at the moment, though one might be coming up for replacement.
We Saab owners aren’t afraid to double up when it comes to furnishing the family garage.
In addition to that, we’re not normally ones to shift brands too often. Sure, there are a lot of companies making different products who can claim that, but we Saabists tend to be a very loyal bunch of serial monogamists.
This first “family” falls into the second category, that of multiple Saab owners. I’ll have some more on the latter, later, as I’ve received a few emails of that type in the last few weeks.
These pics come from Claudius, in Switzerland, and show his very handsome driveway with two very handsome Saabs parked there.
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I see a Hirsch badge on the back of that convertible!! Niiiiiiiiiice.
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Actually, both cars were bought from, and are tuned by Hirsch. Yowza!!!!
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If I were Claudius, I reckon I’d have both sets of keys in the same place and just close my eyes in the morning when I picked up a set. Let fate decide which car you take that morning – Saab surprise!
I’m sure there’d be no disappointment whichever car ‘beeped’ at you when you got outside :-)
Beautiful work, Claudius. Thanks for the email!