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2010 Saab 9-5 price? How much is an Audi A6 where you live?

September 24, 2009 in Saabology

In the Q&A prior to Frankfurt, several people asked about pricing for the 2010 Saab 9-5.
Saab haven’t released pricing information yet, but they have indicated that the Audi A6 was their benchmark vehicle when developing the 9-5 and talks with Saab people in Frankfurt left me with the impression that that benchmarking included pricing for the vehicle.
So what’s an Audi A6 worth in your market?
Here in Australia the A6 is actually marketed at slightly different prices depending on which state you live in. The biggest market is in New South Wales (Sydney is the capital city) and there, an A6 ranges from A$82,026 to A$121,927
Here in Tasmania the A6 sells for between A$81,797 and A$121,342 (sucked in to the latte crowd for getting ripped off!).
That $40,000 range covers a starting point with the 2.0 TDI and finishes with the 3.0 TFSI Quattro.
How closely Saab models their pricing remains to be seen, but it’s a fair step up from the outgoing Saab 9-5. I’d love to tell you how much a 9-5 costs here in Australia at the moment, but the model no longer shows up on the Saab Australia website (which should be a headline story in itself). It’s not on the car configurator, either.
The Saab 9-5 Aero was previously listed in the A$80,000 range, though I don’t think anyone’s paid that much for a 9-5 in a long, long time.
The final answer really is a bit of a guessing game, but I think that if Saab can come in just under Audi’s range of prices here in Australia, then with the range of engines and technology they can offer, they’ll have some interested customers.
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Your A6 price listings and thoughts are welcome.
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And yes, jetlag’s a pain the behind……

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Answering your questions – part II

September 23, 2009 in Saabology

You asked questions prior to me going to Frankfurt and I’m doing what I can to answer as many as possible based on stuff I learned whilst in Frankfurt and Sweden.
Here we go with another bunch,,,,,
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How long until we see the 9-5 Station Wagon. It is a very good seller and the one I will be waiting for. Another one, can we see more colours, a bigger colour chart?
As previously mentioned, I believe we’ll be waiting another year for the 9-5 wagon. I wish it could come sooner, but it is what it is.
An interesting note on colors. We did get a sneek peek at a color palette for the 9-5 some time ago. Those colors were put together before the decision was taken to move the car to Trollhattan. Some of those colors were Russelsheim-only colors, so they won’t appear on the 9-5.

Does the SAAB CEO think he will be in line for the Swedish version of a knighthood in the new year? Can Australian buyers be assured they may install Hirsch products and maintain their warranty in 2010?
Jan-Ake Jonsson deserves such an honour, that’s for sure.
As with other questions, I’ll hopefully contact Hirsch soon and find out their ongoing status. Hirsch products remain unavailable in Australia, so it’s situation normal from that perspective. A selection of Hirsch products are now available in the US, though, through site sponsor, State of Nine.

Hi Swade. I`d like to know if there are any plans of any “Koenigsegg Edition” variants of the new 95 and the upcoming 93.
When will the 95 wagon be launched? Why do Saab not use swedish Nordic Uhr or BSR instead of Hirsch? They actually use better parts and are swedish

I asked Christian von Koenigsegg about possible editions and he said that they’re still in the early stages of looking at synergies between the two companies and will look to persue those where they exist. I believe he’s said in other interviews that they might consider a Koenigsegg Edition if it really looks like it’ll work and I’d guess it would have to benefit both brands (the preservation of K’Segg exclusivity will be foremost in his mind, I think).
See above about the 9-5 wagon.
My guess is that Hirsch provide an aftermarket solution that’s 1) very high quality, high enough to be factory warranted, 2) more than just tuning. They include body kit parts, etc, rather than tuning only. All of which are exclusive for Saab.
Are Nordic still operating?

When will will see the first GM-free Saab of the modern era? As I understand it, the next 9-3 will have some GM DNA in it, although i may be wrong on that.
This will involve a number of elements. If you’re looking for the first GM-free Saab design, then I’m confident that the next 9-3 will be the one. It’s my understanding that preliminary 9-3 designs have been submitted from Russelsheim, but i’m not sure they’re going to be taken up.
The first Saab free from GM content may be many years away. Saab will have service contracts in place with GM to provide parts and technology on an ongoing basis for years to come. Where this technology is effective in terms of both performance and cost, they’d be silly not to look at it.

Swade, I have been selling Saabs for 31 years and have owned a Saab from 1974, now I am wondering when we will see the new 9-5 and 9-4x at our dealership in Pa. USA ?
I can’t give exact dates, but here’s a starting point for you – they started receiving tooling for the 9-5 in Trollhattan around 10 days ago. They have install, test, etc this tooling and then start production for real. I reckon that could take until the end of this year (but that’s just my own educated guesswork). You’ll know how long it takes to get Saabs shipped over from Sweden better than I do, but I’m sure you can be confident that the US will be high up on the production list.

Are there plans to offer the 9-5 as a 5 door in addition to the wagon variant? Also, are there plans to reintroduce captive financing and leasing for Saab dealers?
I wouldn’t hold my breath for a 9-5 hatch, but it’d be nice if it happened. I think the first new hatch will be the new 9-3 when it comes.
I’m sure that finance arrangements will be high on Mike Colleran’s agenda when he gets the new Saab Cars of North America group up and running.

That’s less than I wanted to get to in this session, but I’ve got to fly, literally.
Home Sweet Home.

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Another guy’s thoughts on the 2010 Saab 9-5

September 23, 2009 in Saabology

G’day all. Greetings from Changi Airport in Singapore, which has got to be the best airport in the world to be stuck at (if you’ve got to be stuck somewhere).
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I know I write all of my thoughts here at SU with honesty and clarity in mind, but I’m also aware of the fact that you hear positive stuff from me about Saab all the time, which is why I’m pleased that a few of you have already made it to Frankfurt to see the 9-5 for yourselves.
One such pilgrim is EduSaab, who made the trip from Spain. I’ve just logged in to find his comments on the car in my inbox so I thought I’d bring them here to front page.
Put simply, this really is a great new car from Saab.

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Well, I am really impressed with the car. As said Swade, you must see it in real life. The quality of the car in every aspect is very high. The boot is huge!! is like a cave, and I have a 9000, 9-3ss and my father had a 9-5(MY1999).
The rear seats are bigger than the new Eclass and the seat position a lot better by far!!. I seat in many cars today, and I can say for sure, the best seat position and the easiest to find the correct position is the Saab. I am quite upset with the Merc. in this aspect of seat position, primary with the rear seats, as my father has an ML350, in this case happens something similar, but also the rear seat room in the Merc is shorter but also happens with the A6 and 5 series, the new 9-5 is more like an S class than a E class in this aspect. Another feature I liked is the new electric seats (in the show all of them electric seats) have a new button to increase or decrease the “volume” or how soft/hard you want the seat, not only in the back, also in you bottom!.
Another feature I didn’t know, is the park assist. It also help you to detect a car park place where the car could fit on it, at speeds under 30 km/h and also guides you how you should enter in the car park place.
There are a lot of stuff to be considered in this car, and Saab has a lot of reasons to be so excited with this car, in few words…….is superb!!, the Infotaiment system is awesome and easy to use. The only bad thing, is the rear seat headroom, its true its a little
claustrophobic, simply because the roof goes down too early and if you turn your head to the side to see the your side you should crouch a little bit the head, but its more “psichologic” than a real lack of headroom.
In 18 months we are going to see the Wagon, and later on the new 9-4x, but there isn’t a concrete timetable forecast, but more or less it is what it seems.
Something I notice and the sales people there also thing the same, is the difference between the trunk door of the 9-3ss and the 9-5. In the 9-5, is heavier and you need a lot of effort to close it in one movement, in the 9-3ss as it is made from aluminum its really light and easy to manouver. Its a small details, but when you are used to something, then is noticeable.
I should say again, that this 9-5, its more like a 7 series, S class or A8 territory in terms of rear seats, than the Eclass or 5 series, in room space, but primary in terms of comfort, it won’t have a space to put your champagne, but the leg room, the seat position and comfort its awesome!!
About the HUD, I have some pictures, they have a unit with it, in the customers section, and you can play with it. You can adjust the position(up/down), the brightness and then the info you want. Speed, speed with rpm(not digital, analogic meter) and the last one now i don’t remember it.
Once again I must say thank you for the great attention of the Saab people in the stand. I was at the Barcelona autoshow this year, with the arrival of the 9-3x, being a spanish guy, with 3 Saabs, loyal customer and fan, the service of the spanish Saab guys to me, was rubbish, and they lost the opportunity to sell me one of the last V6 units of the 9-3ss.
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I know that others have seen it as well and I’ll try to bring those comments to the front page in due course as well. – SW

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Swade still in the air snippets

September 23, 2009 in News, Troll Stuff

(Apologies to all for the beginning fragment of this post loitering on the site for a couple of hours — the artifact of posting in a crowded airport with an iffy wireless connection. EnG)
In the aftermath of the Frankfurt auto show, I expect a number of outlets to comment on the new 9-5. Here’s a (very) short post that tauts the new 9-5 as “an alternative to the standard Bimmer, Benz, or Lexus.” Fair enough.
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Regular reader and contributor, Robin, reminds me that Saabfriends is active and on the move. I’ve not yet gone there myself — Swade must have posted this during one of my “dark periods”. Anyhoo, check it out!
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I was reminded this weekend in a conversation with Greg (he’ll be baffled as to why, but it really had little to do with the subject at hand, just a phrase that he used) about the forlorn little Saab 90. A strange little corner of Saab history, but it’s there nonetheless.
Post Script:
More on the Saab 90 from esteemed writer and genuine Saab lover Lance Cole may be found in the archives here.
Additionally, I wrote this little piece on the Saab 90 Lumikko (Snow Weasel). Once again, the Saab 90 is a strange little corner of our Saab history.

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If someone has a chance, trot on over to Wikipedia and clean up the Saab Automobile and Saab 9-5 entries. They both could use a little editing.
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I got great feedback on the Meyer Saab post from folks who were actually there, and what great affection people have for the dealer and the other Saab lovers. It’s given me new energy to pursue a local club here in Middle Tennessee. More on that in future editions.
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I figure that Swade’s just about on the ground in Singapore. By now his body thinks it’s in the wee hours of the morning, but in Singapore it’s the middle of the day. I know that’s a great feeling — NOT. It’s an even better feeling to endure seven hours at the airport in that condition. Travel isn’t as glamorous as the airline commercials make it seem. Not even close.

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Simon Padian comments on the new 9-5

September 23, 2009 in News

Simon Padian is the design chief for Saab, and he’s obviously a great communicator of his designs and the elements that he feels are important in all of the components.
This video is his take on how the Saab 9-5 breaks down design wise. It’s nothing that any of us couldn’t come up with ourselves, but it is reassuring to hear that he’s purposely retained some of the “typically Saab” concepts — wrap-around windshield, hockey-stick line, curving C-pillar, clamshell hood, wrap-around headlamps. Naturally, the car is a success looking for some sales and he makes mention of that in this clip.
Again, nothing revolutionary here in this specific video, but it’s nice to hear from the man himself. Enjoy!



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Meyer Saab Open House 2009

September 22, 2009 in Editorial, Saabology, Troll Stuff

It seemed to be too good to be true — an open house at Meyer Saab, one of the most storied U.S. dealers, within two-hours drive of the launch point of my new (to me) 1991 900 Turbo Convertible SE. When Greg Abbott mentioned it as an option, I immediately said I’d go.
Later, looking at the map, I doubted my decision. If I drove straight through from Minneapolis to Nashville, I could get home in one day. Barely. My arrival would have been about 1 or 2 AM, and I’d have to have some cooperation from the weather. Certainly feasible, but not comfortable. Naturally, since I’m writing this post, you know the end of the story — I elected to travel south behind Greg’s black 9-5 for two hours deep into the rural prairie. I’d simply have to drive back over the two-day weekend.

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Meyer, Iowa is not an incorporated town. You won’t find it on many maps — indeed, Mapquest and Microsoft Streets and Trips are ignorant of it. Like many small towns that dot the North American landscape, the people here do just fine without much local government. I assume, perhaps wrongly, that the citizens of Meyer, Iowa hold the lack of government as one of the finer things about the place.
But, there’s one thing that they’re proud of: Meyer Saab. Meyer Saab is the oldest Saab dealership west of the Mississippi River, our country’s convenient east-west divide. In business since 1964, Meyer Saab has been selling and servicing Saabs for the local and extended community in this part of the world. In my mind, they’ve really nurtured the brand there.

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According to the owning family, the dealership got its start when one of the Meyer residents left Iowa and found work as a mechanic at a newly-formed Saab dealer in Minneapolis-St. Paul. He excitedly brought back a two-stroke Saab 93 to his father, a local farm implement businessman, and left it, saying “I think that we can sell these cars here.” His reasoning was simple: the farm hands in the area were used to working on their own two-stroke farm machinery and the front-wheel-drive Saabs were perfect for the snowy winters and slippery, muddy spring conditions. The elder Meyer citizen inquired about the dealership requirements and purchased the required eight cars and US$5,000 in parts stock and they were in business.
Over time, the cars have changed, naturally. However, Saabs are still holding their own here in Northeastern Iowa. Today, Meyer Saab and Iowa City Saab are owned and operated by the same folks. People from the entire region have a genuine affection for this dealer and the brand. It’s a great feeling to witness your own enthusiasm reflected by folks whom you’ve never met and with whom you have no other obvious bond. There’s something self-affirming in that.
The actual open house had some great cars in attendance, and many fine enthusiasts on hand to celebrate.
See more about the cars and folks in attendance after the jump.

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Answering your questions, part 1

September 22, 2009 in Saabology

Greetings from the offices of Auto Motor and Sport, Sweden! Toshiba’s in the house, baby!
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I’ve finally got a little time to get to some of the questions you asked prior to me leaving for Frankfurt. I can’t get to all of them yet as there’s still a few people I need to speak to, but I’ll get to as many as I can answer in the time I’ve got.
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When can I order a 9-3 Convertible TTiD XWD?
I’d be very surprised if you’ll ever be able to order that combination. First, XWD and TTiD just aren’t happening with the 9-3, though I expect it will happen with the 9-5 eventually.
Second, I think the market for that combination would be quite small and I don’t think Saab would consider it significant enough to make the investment.
And third, would you really want it? All the added weight of the convertible mechanism, then the weight of the big diesel engine, then the added weight of XWD?
And I’d like to know about the release of the 9-4x and the 9-5 SC. When will we get to see them in metal?
I expect both to be seen in 2010. The Combi is traditionally year after the sedan (though it befuddles me as to why, except for lack of money).
I asked people about the 9-4x as I know there’s been some uncertainty amongst readers as to whether it was happening or not. It is. The 9-4x has been shown in concept form and the concept is quite similar to the production vehicle in terms of its visual look. So there’s nothing more to see, really, until they’re ready to produce.
They’ve said 4 cars in 18 months, and that was a few months ago now. To me, that means we’ll see a 9-5 sedan, 9-5 Combi, 9-4x and a 9-3 refresh.
Will the “new Saab” have some sort of a communication with owners, potential buyers, and/or enthusiast regarding current and future products? I was thinking not only about an email address were everything is dumped and most is trash and no one really care about what is said… But more of a way (maybe as a “registered user” in some way) to communicate with marketing, design, development, etc. and be able to give more lengthy insights and thought about the brand, the products, the ownership, the dealership experience, the future and so on?
The Newsroom was their first foray into a more interactive space and I talked with them briefly about that. They know that the newsroom is a very basic service and that a lot could be done with it, but they seem to be very happy with the results they’ve seen from operating it.
That’s very encouraging for me as I’ve long thought that this should be a space that Saab get into more. There’s a lot to be gained and a lot to be shared.
I hope to talk about this with them a little more in the future, but don’t read anything into that.
Is there a suitable place to put loose change in the new 9-5?
There’s a space in the center console, where the cupholders are, which is fitted to the remote key device that comes with the car. This can also be used as a handy coin storage space.
There’s no dedicated space for spare change. Put it that way. But I’m sure that most owners will adapt a space for this purpose.

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My new 900 convertible (or EnG takes the plunge)

September 22, 2009 in Editorial, Troll Stuff

After a disastrous end to my previous Saab 900 Convertible, a white 1988 900 Turbo model (see the end story here), I’ve been searching for my next 900 ‘vert. The criteria were clear: turbo, manual transmission, no 1987 cars, no rust. Good condition and performance goodies desired. I was not opposed to a fixer-upper, but it had to be the right one.
After seven or eight months of looking on-and-off (and considering a couple of 9-3 convertibles and one Jaguar XJS convertible), I’ve found and bought the one that I’ll have for life. Or as long as possible, anyway.
Behold, my new (to me) 1991 Saab 900 Turbo SE convertible.

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As you can see, the 1991 900 Turbo Convertible Special Edition has the lower body kit. What you can’t see is that it also has the “redbox” performance EPC and is lowered slightly vs. the standard turbocharged 900 models. These differences transform the car, especially in the upper revs and on the twisty roads that I may seek out from time to time.
It’s done 137,000+ miles, but the car has been immaculately maintained (thanks, Jon!). Everything that didn’t work was promptly replaced. It’s got a new heater valve, tires, catalytic converter and fog lamps. Under the hood, it’s pretty original. Everything except the cruise control works, including the factory alarm. It even has the original stereo with the equalizer/amplifier upgrade with a 6-CD changer in the trunk.
I found my new 900 convertible on a national auto classifieds web site. Since the car was located in Minnesota I didn’t pursue it right away given that it was 950 miles (1500 km) from my home. After skipping over the car for a couple of months and trying others within reach of my normal travels, I got the opportunity to drive my future 900 while I was in on a rare trip to Minneapolis during the short Labor Day week. I made Jon an offer the next day, and he graciously accepted.
Now that I’d bought a Saab in Minneapolis, how was I going to get it back to Nashville? I briefly thought about having the 900 shipped, but I figured that I could easily drive it home. In fact, the more that I thought about it, it seemed to be a perfect way to spend a mid-September weekend. Why not drive 950 miles across the Heartland in my new convertible? I cashed in a free ticket that I had lying around for a one-way flight to Minneapolis-St. Paul for Friday night. Greg Abbott, regular reader and all-around great guy, volunteered to give me a Saturday-morning ride from my airport hotel up to the western suburbs of Minneapolis to pick up my new Saab. Double bonus: since Greg’s a lawyer (that’s Esq. to you), he helped to reassure the previous owner and me that we’d filled out the title transfer correctly. My photo is also his handiwork.
I loved driving it back from Minnesota, which took the better part of two days. That’s mostly due to the distance, but partly because Greg lined up entertainment along the way. That’s another story that’s coming up soon.
P.S. Anybody want to buy a slightly used 1988 Saab 900 convertible with electrical issues? Call me!
More photos after the break.

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In Stockholm….

September 22, 2009 in Saabology

Today I made the long-ish drive across Sweden to Stockholm.
Many of you will think this rather silly, but I was quite worried about doing this drive without making a complete idiot of myself. You see, living in the Southern hermisphere, as I do, coming up north does very strange things to your sense of direction. The sun moves in a different arc and everything gets all screwy.
I was really worried about pulling over for a breath of fresh air, then re-commencing my journey in the complete opposite direction. To cover this off, I rented a GPS unit with my car, which turned out to have been a very good idea.
One of these is my rental car for the day……
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Given that the AVIS agency in Trollhattan is located at ANA, the local and quite large Saab dealership, I would have felt a little unlucky if they’d wheeled out a Daewoo Matiz. Fortunately, I got a 9-3 SportCombi that was factory fresh with only 800kms on it.
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My apologies to any Stockholm types that might have been interested in a dinner tonight. I just never got around to organising it until it was too late.
As it was, I got to see our rally car shells first hand and I had a nice dinner with Jorgen from the SU Historic Rally Team and Par Brandt from Auto Motor and Sport.
A very entertaining and enjoyable evening full of good food and motor talk.
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On my way here, I stopped at a city called Sombrero Orebro and visited with the guys at Maptun.
It was a rare opportunity to visit not just a site sponsor, but also a business that brings so much happiness to so many people. I mean, who doesn’t love Saab tuners???
These guys run a fantastic shop and I’m looking forward to sharing a few more stories about them and their cars once I get back home. Suffice to say that this car will feature prominently and I’m not ashamed to say that I nearly had to change my underpants after going for a ride.
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Finally, a little glimpse into yesterday’s activities……
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Tomorrow I’ll visit the crew at Auto Motor and Sport before heading to the airport for 36 hours of planes and airports. It sucks living so far away sometimes.
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Someone asked a little while ago if I received assistance for this trip. I did indeed, and I’d like to thank Saab for their support, as well as one private individual who made life a while lot easier with his belief in, and support of, Saabs United. You know who you are and I hope you know the sincere gratitude with which you’re regarded.
For the cynical – I don’t find the 9-5 to be a great car because Saab supported my adventure to see it. It’s just a great car, and hopefully you’ll get to see that for yourself soon.
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I’ll catch you tomorrow, when hopefully I can get a part 1 entry online, answering some of your many questions.

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2010 Saab 9-5 – the SU review part 3

September 21, 2009 in Saabology

Let’s start with a photo or two, shall we?
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And just to prove I not only stood next to the Saab 9-5 test mule……….yes, I sat in one as well!!!
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You’ll have to take my word when I say that I also drove it :-)
I’ve written a lot already about my impressions of this car from an exterior and interior point of view in the previous parts of this review:

I guess it’s high time I covered the driving experience that I was very fortunate to have just a few hours after arriving in Trollhattan last Thursday. It’s a compliment to the site and the people who hang out here that I was the first person to drive the 2010 Saab 9-5 who wasn’t mainstream-media person or a Saab employee.
First, a little insight about the particular car I drove.
Saab have a number of vehicles that they use for testing and proving various elements of the new Saab 9-5. These vehicles can be at various levels of specification and fit-out, the variations being aimed at focusing on particular elements of the car.
For example, I can’t tell you how the light reacts with the dashboard panelling because the test vehicle I drove wasn’t fitted with that dash panelling. Just a plain black dash. I can’t tell you about the head-up display or the DriveSense functionality, either, as they weren’t fitted to the car.
What I can tell you about, however, is how a 2.0T BioPower version of the Saab 9-5 feels on the road.
To be more specific, the car I drove was fitted with the following specification:

  • 2.0T Biopower engine (220hp and 350Nm)
  • 6-speed manual gearbox
  • Front wheel drive
  • Sport Suspension (McPherson front and H-Arm rear)
  • 18-inch wheels
  • 17-inch brakes
  • 8-inch touchscreen entertainment system
  • 11-speaker sound system
  • Sport Seats

Allow me to tell you this straight up – there are no significant criticisms for me to make with regard to this car. There might be one or two minor ones, but for me, this was a dream drive of what I regard as an excellent driver’s vehicle.
So let’s get down to it.

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2010 Saab 9-5 USB functionality on display

September 21, 2009 in Uncategorized

I’m not totally sure who ‘Saabinfo’ is, but he’s posted a great video from the Frankfurt motorshow onto Youtube.
In the video, they quite spontaneously demonstrate the USB connection to the new Saab 9-5 entertainment system, which works perfectly.




Here’s some food for thought……
As I watched this, all my concerns about numbers, materials, horsepower, suspension, etc all melted away for a moment. This is the car in action. Just a little bit of action, but action nonetheless.
We talk about images, angles, hockeysticks and a wheels like the conversation is the most important thing in the world. It is important, but nowhere near as important as someone being able to plug that thing in at a motor show for the first time and put a big smile on their face.
That’s what it’s all about, isn’t it?
“Saabinfo” – I couldn’t find a link to a website on your Youtube channel, but will be quite happy to link up should you provide one.
Well done, and thanks to Raquettelaker2 for the tip.

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Sunday Housekeeping and Other SU Things

September 21, 2009 in Troll Stuff

All:
I just approved a slew of comments from the spam filter, so some of you will see your opinions now posted. Sorry that it’s taken a while to work that out, but Swade and I have both had our adventures over the last three days or so.
I’m happy to report that mine is working out perfectly. More on that later.
Swade’s is working out much better than he expected from what I’ve heard from him thus far today. I’m not going to steal any of his thunder, but he’s got a couple of anecdotes that I’m very, very excited to hear about. Stay tuned!
Upcoming schedule
As I write this, it’s Sunday evening in Sweden. Over the next couple of days, Swade’s schedule will be jam-packed with more great stuff, great people, great everything. All Saab, all the time! He flies back to Australia on Tuesday with a Thursday arrival. That’s the price he pays for living in all of the natural beauty near the bottom of the world.
Over the next two days, Swade will post as he’s able. It may not be much, but he’s feverishly working. Once he’s in the air, I’ve got a few stories to share about my new 900 and the trek home (which isn’t actually finished just yet — I’m in Paducah, Kentucky right now). That should take us into Thursday. I expect that’s when the true details of
Steven’s trip will begin to unfold here in these pages.
Another way to hear from us
If you aren’t following Swade and me on Twitter, you can. If you aren’t a Twitterer, simply bookmark these pages for review from time to time. You’ll see all of the Tweets there:

http://twitter.com/eggsngrits

http://twitter.com/SaabsUnited

Enjoy the posts, and watch the videos again. They WILL be on the final exam.
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From SW….
Amen, brother!
I hit the road tomorrow for what will effectively be a four day trip back home. Fun and games. There will be a lot to share.

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2010 Saab 9-5 – the SU review part 2

September 20, 2009 in Saabology

Part 1 of this review is here.
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In an interview I did with Simon Padian (still to come) I asked him what was the more important part of a car’s design – exterior or interior? They’re both very important, of course, to a decision on these is a marginal matter, but he indicated that for designers, the exterior is still king.
It’s the element that gets you interested in the car in the first place. It provides that first emotional reaction that can mean so much, though as we know, some exterior designs have a habit of growing on you over time (see Classic Saab 900).
When considered over the long term of a relationship with a car, I’m still of the opinion that the interior is a major player. That’s where you spend most of your time so it’s got to be good. I’m pleased to report that the 2010 Saab 9-5 interior is very good indeed.
I’ll give you my thoughts on the interior in three separate sections – comfort, gadgetry, and materials and finish.

Comfort
The V6 Aero version showing at the Frankfurt show was fitted with the optional premium leather seats and I’ve got to say they were super comfortable and the leather really does feel fantastic. It had the parchment trim and the contrast was nice, though I was more partial to the Vector they had on display.
That car had a black interior with ventilated seats. I don’t know if you’ve ever used Saab’s ventilated seats, but I did a test of a 2003 Aero with them fitted a couple of years ago and they were the best seats I have ever sat on, with a cooling ability that’s better than air conditioning (at least in Hobart’s summer climate).
The Aero:
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And the all black interior I liked best from a personal point of view.
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I’ve heard a few people mention concerns about claustrophobia due to the high sides and seemingly smaller windows in this car. I can tell you from sitting in it myself that this is a large, roomy interior, with plenty of room and from what I could tell, more than adequate visibility. You may still want to consider Parking Assist due to the size of the car and the convenience it offers, but I didn’t feel any sense of claustrophobia from the driver’s seat.

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Sunday morning snippets – winding road edition

September 20, 2009 in Saabology

It’s the weekend and things are slowing down a little on the SU Sweden Tour 2009.
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I’ve been joined here in Sweden by Dave R, who knows this area like the back of his hand and has graciously acted as host and guide around the area.
Yesterday we headed north for a drive and apart from the scenery and some great strawberry waffles, the highlight of the drive was a road called Brudfjallsvagen (forgive the lack of umlauts but I haven’t figured those out on this new computer just yet).
This is an 11km stretch of undulating, winding road that’s just so much fun you want to drive it again and again.
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The road runs between Tisselkog and Haverud and it well worth searching for if you’re over this way.
Here’s a video of the drive shot from a motorbike. You don’t get the full rise and fall of the road, but it’ll give you an idea.
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The SU Trollhattan meetup was on last night and whilst we were few in number we were many in spirit. Dave and I were joined by Mats (a local) and Rune made a huge effort in travelling all the way from Oslo with his wife Anna.
It was great to see Mats again (he gave me my first tour around Thn back in 2007) and fantastic to meet Rune and Mrs Rune for the first time. We had a drop-in visit from a young guy named Hampus (forgive me if I’m wrong), but he was too young to be allowed to stay in the pub.
Thanks to all for another great evening!
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Just a small part of the fleet of 9-5 test mules in Trollhattan. A post about that experience will come later.
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I’ve got enough content backed up to last a month, but there’s even more still to come on the SU Sweden Tour 2009.
This afternoon we’ll take the 9-3x out for a good thrashing :-)
Tomorrow I jump in a rental car and head for Orebro, which is where Maptun have their facility. I’ll meet up with Fredrik and the rest of the team there and have a look around before heading off to Stockholm.
In Stockholm I’m hoping to meet up with Jorgen from the SU Historic Rally Team as well as some guys from Auto Motor and Sport.
That’s Monday and Tuesday morning taken care of. Tuesday afternoon will see me jump on a plane again for the long ride home to meet my wife’s loving arms and my dog’s loving wet nose.

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Official Release – 2010 Saab 9-5 Technical Highlights

September 20, 2009 in Saabology

I was going to post this as an accompaniment to the powertrain release, but it seemed so important in the context of this car that it had to be published on its own.

The following is an official release from Saab upon the launch of the 2010 Saab 9-5.

Other releases include:

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All New Saab 9-5 Sedan: State-of-the-Art Technology From Scandinavia

  • Most technically advanced Saab ever
  • Conceived, built and chiefly developed in Sweden
  • Equipped to compete head-to-head with leading premium class competitors

The all new 9-5 is the most advanced Saab ever, introducing an array of high-tech features and benefits that bring the car and driver closer together, while also enhancing the travel experience for all occupants.

Defined by Saab as the company’s top-of-the-line contender in the premium segment, the new 9-5 has been chiefly engineered in Sweden, where its development has been guided and where it will be built at Saab’s home plant in Trollhättan.

In terms of functionality and the quality of the driving experience alone, the new 9-5 sedan is configured to challenge premium class standards. It will offer a fresh and distinctive alternative choice to established market leaders.

State-of-the-art technologies are harnessed to offer the features customers most want. Smart functions range from an aircraft-style, head-up information display (Pilot HUD) to Advanced Park Assist (APA), and from hard disk onboard music storage to rear seat climate control and flexible trunk storage

“This is the most sophisticated and technically advanced car we have ever produced,” says Mats Fägerhag, Head of Technical Development at Saab. “It is enabled to meet the needs of modern day motoring and brings together all the functions and features customers would expect in a car of this class.”

On The Road
Chassis systems and technologies are focused on delivering a sporty driving experience. The mechanical suspension layouts, for example, are tailored to match the differing performance characteristics of its engines and drivelines. These can be overlaid by the optional Saab DriveSense adaptive chassis system, which includes real time damping control.

HiPerStrut and Linked H-arm suspension
Three suspension combinations are fitted. Variants with the 1.6-liter gasoline and 2.0-liter diesel engines have a McPherson strut front and 4-link rear arrangement, while a Linked H-arm rear suspension is fitted with the 2.0-liter gasoline turbo, also enabling Saab XWD as an option. Aero variants with the 2.8V6 turbo have a HiPerStrut (High Performance Strut) front suspension and the Linked H-arm rear layout.

The advanced HiPerStrut offers driving benefits similar to those of a double wishbone layout, but without any weight penalty. The inclination and length of the kingpin is reduced and the caster angle of the steering increased. The result: improved steering quality with a more ‘planted’ feel, as well as enhanced handling and braking characteristics.

At the rear, the sophisticated H-arm layout, with isolated sub-frame mountings, gives still greater ride comfort, reduces vibration entering the cabin and improves roadholding. For both H-arm and 4-link rear suspensions, shear bushings are used in the damper mountings to the body structure. These effectively dissipate vibrations from the road, improving ride comfort and noise isolation.

Saab DriveSense
The new 9-5 is the first Saab to offer real time damping control through Saab DriveSense, which includes a range of adjustments that helps the car adapt to the way it is being driven. In addition to the default ‘Intelligent’ mode, two further settings, ‘Sport’ and ‘Comfort’, can be selected via a rotary knob next to the gear shift.

In real time, ‘Intelligent’ mode adjusts the car’s handling characteristics in response to driving style. It continually varies the stiffness rates of the electronically-controlled dampers, the action of the electronic throttle and the degree of power steering assistance. For example, when the car is being driven in a sporty style, the action of the dampers is automatically stiffened to improve body control and roadholding; the throttle pedal movement is shortened for a faster response and steering assistance is reduced for a more direct feel. At reduced speeds, the dampers are softened for greater ride comfort, the action of the throttle pedal becomes less aggressive and the steering feels lighter.

The ‘Sport’ setting introduces a firmer range of adjustment for the dampers, offering even greater body control. In addition to sharpening the throttle pedal response and reducing the level of power steering assistance, ‘Sport’ mode also raises the gear shifting points with automatic transmission, raises the ESC intervention threshold and sends more drive torque to the rear wheels when Saab XWD is fitted.

By contrast, ‘Comfort’ mode, optimizes ride refinement by enabling a softer range of adjustment for the dampers and a smoother throttle pedal action. It provides enhanced compliance over rough road surfaces and is the most appropriate setting for optimum fuel economy.

Saab DriveSense is offered as an option with all engines and equipment specifications, except the turbo diesel and 1.6 turbo gasoline engines.

Saab XWD with eLSD
Saab’s industry-leading all-wheel-drive system is optional for 2.0-liter Turbo variants and standard with the 2.8V6 Turbo engine. It offers a more rewarding driving experience and greater control in all road conditions. This on-demand, active system – integrated and optimized by Saab chassis engineers – uses a multi-plate Haldex clutch unit to infinitely vary drive torque between the front and rear axles. Careful programming enables the application of rear drive to balance oversteer and understeer characteristics.

An optional, electronically-controlled rear limited-slip differential (eLSD) transfers up to 50% of rear torque between the rear wheels, to whichever has more grip. Under hard cornering, or when completing a high speed maneuver, such as a lane change, the brief application of more or less torque to either wheel helps the rear of the car more closely follow the direction of the front wheels.

Sport Chassis
Standard with Saab XWD and optional with front-wheel drive, the Sport chassis set-up offers improved handling and body control. It includes a 10 mm lower ride height, a stiffer front anti-roll bar, stiffer springs and dampers, and greater steering feel from top strut mounts with reduced lateral compliance.

Adaptive Cruise Control
A smart function that not only enables the driver to select a constant cruising speed, but also automatically alters the chosen speed to maintain a constant, safe distance to the vehicle on the road ahead. The new 9-5′s intelligent system also allows the driver to choose one of three distance options to the vehicle ahead.

A radar sensor in the grille emits a beam to measure the distance to the vehicle in front. If this gap reduces below the required setting, the throttle opening is adjusted or, if necessary, the brakes are applied. Should heavy braking be required, a warning gong sounds to alert the driver to take action. Once the appropriate distance is restored, the car will accelerate back up to the pre-set speed. A conventional, ‘passive’ cruise control function is also available.

Variable Effort Steering (VES)
When maneuvering, parking or driving at low speeds, VES increases the level of power assistance in order to reduce steering effort. At higher speeds, hydraulic assistance is automatically reduced to ensure a high degree of steering ‘feel’ for the driver.

VES uses an electro-magnetic motor on the steering rack, controlled by a coil, to boost or reduce the level of hydraulic assistance. VES also adapts to the speed at which the steering wheel is turned, providing progressively increased assistance the faster the wheel is rotated. The system is fitted as standard with Saab XWD and Saab DriveSense.

Behind the wheel
The view from the cosseting driver’s seat of the new 9-5 sedan can be configured through optional features including an aircraft-style information display, adaptive headlamp lighting and a traffic sign recognition function. These reflect Saab’s commitment to responsible performance by increasing driving safety.

Head-Up Display (Pilot HUD)
Projecting essential data in the windshield through the HUD, such as vehicle speed, warning messages, turn indicators and navigation instructions, offers real-life safety benefits as the driver does not need to look away from the road. Inspired by similar technology in fighter jets, the 9-5′s Pilot HUD is shown as a virtual image, seemingly about two meters ahead, within the driver’s natural eye focus. The display is controlled and adjusted via two switches in the main fascia adjacent to the driver’s door. It is illuminated in signature Saab green, as used in aircraft cockpits.

Bi-Xenon Smart Beam
This is one of the most sophisticated, adaptive lighting systems on the market. It uses bi-xenon headlamps that swivel to better illuminate bends ahead and automatically optimizes light beam patterns to suit the prevailing speed, road and driving conditions. Bi-Xenon Smart Beam also engages and disengages high beam automatically, relieving the driver of a repetitive chore.

At speeds below 50 km/h, Town Light provides a wide, flat beam so that pedestrians or potential hazards at the roadside can be better seen. At speeds up to 100 km/h, Country Light projects a longer beam, while still giving good roadside illumination. Motorway Light increases the beam length still further, to 140 meters, and is activated only above 100 km/h on straight, level roads.

When rain or snow is detected by the windshield wipers’ rain sensor, Adverse Weather Light provides a wide, asymmetric light pattern which allows the driver to see lane markings better. In all light modes, Dynamic Bend Light provides illumination into oncoming bends by swiveling the headlamps up to 15° to the right or left, according to the vehicle speed and steering angle.

Traffic Sign Recognition (TSR) and Lane Departure Warning (LDW)
This driving safety function uses a camera in the back of the interior mirror which ‘looks’ through the windshield. For use in left-hand drive EU markets, it is programmed to recognize speed limit and ‘no overtaking’ signs, the appropriate symbol being illuminated as a driver reminder in the main display. It’s a useful feature that can even help avoid getting a speeding ticket!

At speeds above 60 km/h, the same system can also initiate a warning alarm if the vehicle begins to veer out of lane when the indicators are not engaged, such as could happen with the onset of drowsiness or during moments of inattention.

Advanced Park Assist (APA)
A smart feature enabling the driver to parallel park the 9-5 in tight spaces only one meter longer than its own length. APA uses ultrasonic sensors in the front, rear and side of the vehicle. The system detects a suitable parking spot and then plots a perfect reverse parking trajectory. The driver is instructed how to turn the steering wheel via icons in the main instrument display and audible chimes.

Comfort and Convenience
These features are focused on ease-of-use and making the cabin of the new 9-5 sedan an enjoyable place to be. State-of-the- art infotainment systems include an 8-inch touchscreen navigation system, an embedded Bluetooth phone operation and rear seat audio and viewing options.

Start/Stop Button and Keyless Entry/Exit
Standard throughout the range, a start/stop button replaces the conventional ignition switch. In Saab tradition, it is located between the seats next to the gearshift. The engine control unit detects and authenticates a coded signal from driver’s fob and the engine can be started or stopped by simply pressing the start/stop button.

For even greater convenience, a keyless entry/exit system is offered, which allows the car to be automatically unlocked when the door handle is pulled while the fob is still in the driver’s pocket or handbag. The car is also automatically locked when the driver leaves it with the engine switched off. This ease-of-use feature removes the need to press the unlock/lock buttons on the standard fob.

Tri-zone Air Conditioning
In addition to the standard dual zone climate control for the driver and front passenger, the tri-zone option offers independent temperature control for rear seat occupants. Extended ducting feeds air from the main air conditioning unit to an outlet module in the rear face of the center console. The module includes a small fan to accelerate the airflow and two adjustable distribution vents. It is offered in combination with rear seat entertainment and available only with left-hand drive vehicles.

Advanced Infotainment Systems
The extensive infotainment choice breaks new ground for Saab, offering a wide range of
state-of-the-art features and three audio options, including a top-of-the-line harman/kardon system with true 5.1 surround sound reproduction through 11 speakers. The 8-inch touchscreen navigation system includes a bird’s eye map view and hard disk drive storage for map data.

Audio source selection has never been more versatile. In addition to the AM/FM and DAB radio, the driver can play music directly from a CD, insert an MP3 player or memory stick into the USB connector, or even store 10 GB of favorite tracks on a built-in hard drive – all with full control via the faceplate and steering wheel. The USB connector – standard on most models – is located conveniently alongside an AUX connector and 12V power outlet in the center console. The USB ‘wires’ the device to the car and offers instant control through the audio system, the in-car display showing the song title, artist and album information.

In the rear, passengers can enjoy their own onboard entertainment through a dedicated unit in the back of the center console and two 8-inch screens which fold out, laptop style, from the front seatbacks. Passengers can select an alternative audio source to that being played up front, watch a DVD or enjoy entertainment from a stand-alone player, such as a games console or digital camera, connected to the AUX input. Sound is provided by wireless headphones.

Communication while on the move is supported by an integrated Bluetooth hands-free phone system, which functions via voice command and steering wheel controls. The ground-breaking remote SIM access profile allows all contacts and data from a mobile phone to be transferred to the car’s own phone system via Bluetooth. Making calls through this embedded in-car system saves phone battery power, as well as delivering improved reception and sound quality.

Innovative trunk storage
A U-shaped track in the floor carries an adaptable, telescopic cargo divider. The concept is an evolution of the cargo tracks offered on the current 9-5 wagon. This fast and flexible storage solution can keep a wide range of different sized items in place. The trunk is also fitted as standard with four bag carrying hooks and an umbrella holder.

Safety
Occupant protection in the new 9-5 builds on Saab’s successful real-life safety philosophy. Crash testing and computer simulations are based on what happens in real collisions on real roads, using the findings of a database covering more than 6,100 real-life accidents involving Saab cars on Swedish roads. In this way, the development of the new 9-5 has drawn on all Saab’s experience with real-life safety accumulated over more than 50 years. Saab safety engineers are always aware they are ultimately protecting real people, not only dummies in laboratory crash tests.

Real-life safety means the structural design of the car, and the operation of its occupant protection systems, are evaluated through a large number of in-house crash tests which are additional to those legally required or carried out by consumer test organizations.

The success of this work is reflected In surveys of real-life collisions by the US Highway Loss Data Institute (HLDI) and the Swedish Folksam insurance company, where Saab cars have consistently scored well, several times being ranked best in their segment. In Euro NCAP crash tests, the current Saab 9-5, 9-3 and 9-3 Convertible have all achieved a maximum five-star rating.

In addition to the full complement of occupant safety systems already installed in Saab cars, the new 9-5 adds third generation Saab Active Heads Restraint (SAHR 3) as standard for the front seats and rear side airbags, together with pre-tensioning of the outer rear seatbelts, as an optional package.

Driving, or active, safety – the ability to avoid becoming involved in an accident – is also improved by functions such as Bi-Xenon Smart Beam, TSR/LDW, Pilot HUD and adaptive cruise control, as described earlier.

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