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Saab 9-5: Lane Departure Warning and RHD markets

October 20, 2009 in News

I received a query about the Lane Departure Warning system that features in the new Saab 9-5 and whether this system will be available for Right Hand Drive markets.
I asked Saab’s Global Product Manager, Magnus Hansson, about it and he passed on the following. Magnus asked me to pass it on to the customer with a query and I figured this would be of interest to all potential RHD market customers.

Regarding LDW and traffic sign recognition it is correct that they will not be offered in RHD markets from the start (like LHD markets), however we will in the near future also offer the feature also on RHD markets. So it is definitely apart of the global offer and the new 9-5 and will be made available for both drive positions for the vast majority of the life cycle.

So the quick answer is yes, it will be available straight away for LHD markets but not straight away for the RHD market.

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e24 on Saab’s EIB loan, coming this week!

October 19, 2009 in News

We are now two days away from the board of the European Investment Bank gathering to make a decision on Saab’s loan. As you may know, this is an integral part of Koenigsegg’s purchase of Saab Automobile, being one of the conditions of their binding Share Purchase Agreement.
E24 has a good summary of the current situation, with some quotes from Eric Geers as well.
Here’s the Googletrans, slightly tidied up where possible by yours truly.
My thanks to Johan for the link.

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On Wednesday comes the expected response from the Bank of the crucial loan of just over 4 billion (SEK) to Saab. And the automaker believes it will be a positive message. “Maybe we can finish the whole affair at the end of the month,” says Saab’s CIO Eric Geers……
The investors behind the Koenigsegg Group, including CEO Christian von Koenigsegg and the Norwegian Bard Eker, have themselves expressed that the EIB loan is a precondition for the deal to go through.
Saab’s own assessment is that the EIB’s reply will be positive.
- We assess the probability as fairly high that the bank will grant the loan, “says Eric Geers, Communications Director at Saab.
He is also hopeful that Koenigsegg Group, after all, will be able to complete the acquisition of Saab, and shortly.
- We have had very positive meetings with all parties involved. Everything rolls on as planned. Maybe we can finish the whole affair at the end of this month, said Eric Geers.
But even if the Bank gives a positive decision on Wednesday there are still several pieces of the puzzle before the deal can fall into place.
- The Board’s decision is actually an authorization to initiate detailed negotiations on the financial contracts. If it is so, then the detailed negotiations begin, “says Eva Srejber, Vice President of the EIB.
- The journey is not over, but the Board’s decision is obviously one of the most important milestones.
And the Bank will only loan conditional to the Swedish state-guaranteed loan. It remains also for the European Commission to assess whether the structure of government guarantee is in line with EU competition rules.
In the case of state guarantees, the Debt Office will make a recommendation to the Government, which in turn will take the decision itself.
Erik Sjulander, the Head of the Debt Office, has previously told the Norwegian press that the goal has been to the National Debt Office will be finished with its evaluation later than 21 October which is Wednesday.
- It’s basically the ambition that we have. Since we depend on a lot of information from the EIB in order to complete our work. They include the term of the loan, the repayment schedule looks like and the exact amount. Ultimately, we need the EU Commission’s decision, “says Erik Sjulander.
- But we are working of course the question remains, and so it looks good.
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The waiting continues………this really is agony.

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TX Edition Saab 9-3 Convertible arrives

October 19, 2009 in News

Saab ConvertibleSaab have just announced via the Newsroom that the 9-3 Convertible has joined the Sport Sedan and SportCombi in getting the TX treatment.
Going from our last entry on the TX edition, it comes with the following gear:
The Turbo Edition model in the UK see you get the following kit as standard:

  • Leather seats
  • Climate control
  • 5 Spoke 17″ alloy wheels
  • Heated front seats
  • Cruise control
  • Rear parking assistance
  • CD player with MP3 compatibility

Upgrade further to the TX edition and you get a bunch of Turbo-X inspired goodies added into the bargain:

  • Aero front bumper
  • titanium finish grille
  • front fog light surrounds
  • special 17″ 5-spoke alloy wheels
  • perforated leather sport steering wheel
  • carbon fibre effect decor
  • carpet floor mats with grey edge piping

That’s a pretty nice offering, actually. Much like the 60th Anniversary models from a few years ago, these should be selling in good number. Here’s hoping.

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Saab 9-5 European Roadshow

October 19, 2009 in Saabology

The Saab 9-5 European Roadshow is happening as we speak and I got a few images in over the weekend thanks to some kind people in the UK.
I’ve heard some great comments about the event so far, with the presentation, the food and the personnel working well. Unfortunately, I’ve also heard some negative feedback from a definite customer who was unable to nail down the specification of the car for the RHD British market. Hopefully we’ll get that sorted soon.
In the meantime, here’s some photos from Robin M and Peter J – and if you click on those links you’ll get more of their respective collections.
Click to enlarge….
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Yes, it was a Volvo truck…..
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Cars on display out front….
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Tango and Cash?
Padian and Nash.
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Why is it so hard to ship an engine?

October 19, 2009 in Troll Stuff

UPDATE BELOW
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I’ve been running around (on the phone) like a madman trying to get a company to help me ship an engine from Melbourne to Hobart. How hard can this be?
The Saab 99 Turbo I’ve bought comes with a spare engine and gearbox (along with numerous other spares). The spare engine blew some time ago, which is why it’s out of the car, but apparently the gearbox is quite good and therefore is required for my rebuild.
I was hoping to ship the whole lump over here but my main problem seems to be getting some assistance with packing and securing the engine ready for shipping.
Right now, the engine is sitting at the seller’s home. He has an engine hoist, so there’s no problem lifting it. The problem is that it has to be prepared in such a way as to be ready for transport. That means packing it on a shipping pallet and securing it in place so it won’t move, leak, etc.
I don’t happen to have any shipping pallets handy, but I figured a transport company would and that they could also pack the engine to get it ready for shipping, for a fee.
No. They only transport them.
Next, I called the two big Saab parts re-sellers in Melbourne: Saabwreck and VolvSaab. They sell engines and obviously have to pack them ready for freight. Could I deliver the engine to them and get them to help me by packing the engine, for a fee?
No. Not interested. (Thanks very much)
So it looks like my spare engine will remain where it is.
I had hoped to strip the deceased engine for good condition spare parts, but it looks like I’ll have to just remove the gearbox and leave the engine. Fortunately, the car comes with numerous other spares that are already packed in various boxes. Hopefully there are some engine bits that are already dismantled amongst these.
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UPDATE:
Thanks to everyone for your ideas and contacts.
I’ve managed to get some help from Terry, one of the former Saabwreck guys who’s now running a Saab parts place on his own. He was more than happy to help me prepare the engine for freight and have it picked up from there by the transport company.
Terry’s business details:
All Saab Parts
43 Fairview St
Springvale VIC 3171
(03) 9562 3399
Am just awaiting the actual frieght cost quotation now, from a mate of PT’s. Should be coming through soon, hopefully.
Also, if you ever need to find out the weight of an engine, try this site. It’ll give you a starting point, at least. The basic Saab slant4 engine weighed in at 290lbs (130kg) so I’ve estimated the engine+gearbox weight of the 99T at 200-230kg.

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On Saab and production in China

October 19, 2009 in News

Dippen spotted this news story on the Swedish Public Service Radio site and has posted through a quick translation to me.

A little bit of background……

At this point, it is understood that prospective part-owner in the Koenigsegg Group, Beijing Automotive (BAIC), will most likely seek to acquire tooling for the outgoing Saab 9-5 and possibly a generation of the saab 9-3 for local production in China.

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Expert has high hopes on Saab in China

High end Saab models that are produced in Trollhättan and more low key Saab models that are produced in China, that is what Saab Automobile’s future can look like, according to Tony Fang who is a professor at Stockholm University.

- What I mean is production will be both in Sweden and in China” says Tony Fang who has studied Beijing Automotive’s latest move to invest in the new ownership structure of Saab.

Less luxurious models but with the same high quality, that may have tomorrows technology could be developed and produced in China in the future. At the same time Trollhättan could produce more high end models.

That is how Tony Fangs analysis looks, because China invests a lot to take big steps in technology of the future.

The thing that Chinese corporations do not have, the thing that they do have to learn is management of organisations on a global scale, This is why Saab is interesting.

And one should not underestimate the help Saab will get from the Chinese market, especially to keep in mind that Beijing municipality is involved in Bejing Automotive. Chinese customers do have a lot of confidence in these companies and this could give Saab a big advantage in the Chinese market

If the partnership would be successful then Beijing Automotive will get even more involved in Saab and invest more money to develop Saab.

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An inference could be drawn that suggests he’s talking about producing current models in China, which as I understand it is not in the plans at this point in time.

As I mentioned at the top, the only things that seem to have been spoken of publicy are to BAIC to produce outgoing generations for the domestic market.

One could look into the future, however, and if Saab and BAIC succeed in growing the company, then Chinese production for limited export could also come into play. I think there’s a lot of water to flow under the bridge before that happens, however.

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The Saab 99

October 19, 2009 in Saabology

My upcoming project – restoring a Saab 99 Turbo – will begin in earnest later this week when I finally pick up the car and bring it home.
Naturally, I’ve got Saab 99 fever right now. Saab 99 Turbo fever, to be precise, but I’m happy to broaden my disease and include the entire 99 family.
What follows are a few entries I did back on Trollhattan Saab back in 2007. In March of that year, we had a month of Saab 99 loving, with lots of 99 stories and photos of owners’ cars. I kicked the month off with a few entries giving some background info on the Saab 99 in general.

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The Saab 99 – a primer
Ever heard about the Saab – Daihatsu connection?
That’s one of the ways that Saab disguised prototypes of the Saab 99 during its testing phase – they crafted a “daihatsu” badge from a Saab Sport badge out of the Saab 96. The Saab 99 needed some disguising as it was the first all-new Saab in a long time and by the time it arrived it was the first new Saab model in around 19 years!
The Saab 99 was born from a project called Gudmund, named for the day on which the board took the decision to pursue the project – April 2, 1964 – Gudmund’s Day.
With the growth of the company and the growth of the motor vehicle market after the second world war, Saab knew that it needed a larger car to keep pace. The Saab 99 was to be this car. It’s initial design work was done primarily by Saab design guru Sixten Sason with the help of a young Bjorn Envall. Sadly, Sason died a short time before the unveiling of the 99. His work on the 99, though, and it’s use right through to the last Saab 900 in 1993 meant the Sason’s designs had driven Saab for 46 years from its inception as a car company in 1947. The fact that a late model Saab 900 can still look like a very contemporary car even today is a true testament to his creative skills.
Work got underway in earnest and the first prototype vehicles began testing in 1965. No-one would recognise them as 99s though as they resembled 96s in just about every way. These vehicles were known as “toads”. In effect they were a Saab 99 chassis and engine with a widened Saab 96 body placed on them. A 20cm section was welded into place down the middle, thus widening the 96 body to fit onto the 99 chassis. The Swedish newspaper Expressen managed to uncover the truth when a photographer managed to catch a ‘toad’ and a regular 96 together.
The Saab 99 made its public debut at a show called Teknorama in Stockholm, on November 22nd, 1967. It would be another year, however, before the model was released to the public for sale. Even the journalists had to wait, as there were only 50 cars available and these were being rigorously tested by a crew of engineers and carefully selected test drivers.
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Saab 99 image gallery

October 19, 2009 in Saabology

Various pictures of Saab 99s – though mostly Turbos :-)
Most were harvested from the month of Saab 99 loving we had back at Trollhattan Saab in March 2007.
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Saab 99 Production

October 19, 2009 in Saabology

The Saab 99 was sold between MY1969 and MY1984, after which a variant called the Saab 90 was produced until MY1987.
Production figures for each calendar year were as follows:

  • 1967 – 25
  • 1968 – 4,190
  • 1969 – 19,411
  • 1970 – 29,755
  • 1971 – 35,136
  • 1972 – 45,001
  • 1973 – 52,065
  • 1974 – 62,637
  • 1975 – 64,167
  • 1976 – 72,819
  • 1977 – 60,316
  • 1978 – 45,851
  • 1979 – 22,443
  • 1980 – 17,108
  • 1981 – 13,381
  • 1982 – 20,006
  • 1983 – 17,187
  • 1984 – 7,145

Total production – 588,643
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The Saab 99 was produced at the following plants in the following numbers:
Trollhattan (Swe)
2 door – 205,456
3 door – 60,863
4 door – 71,892
5 door – 8,901
Total – 347,112

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Saab 99 Evolution

October 19, 2009 in Saabology

Here’s a look at the Saab 99 as it began as well as how it evolved over the course of its lifetime.
This is a long one, but a pretty good insight into the evolution of the car. The importance of this car shouldn’t be underemphasised. I’m relying on somewhat dated statistics here, but I think I’m right in saying that it’s still the second-highest Saab produced by volume behind only the C900.
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Saab 99 – 1969
Engine:
4 cylinder overhead valve engine with overhead cam, longitudinal mount, watercooled.
Capacity: 1709cc
Bore: 83.5mm
Stroke: 78mm
Compression: 9.0:1
Power: 80hp (64kW)
Torque: 127Nm
Carburettor: Zenith Stromberg
Fuel pump: Mechanical, AC Delco
Transmission:
Front wheel drive.
Single dry plate clutch.
4-speed fully synchro gearbox with freewheel
Floor-mounted shift
Suspension:
Coil springs and hydraulic telescopic shock absorbers to all four wheels
Front – individual wheel suspension
Rear – rigid axle with transverse Panhard rod.
Brakes:
Dual circuit diagonally divided brake system with disc brakes front and rear.
Handbrake acting mechanically on the front wheels thru separate drum brakes.
Steering:
Rack and pinion steering.
3.33 turns lock to lock
Turning radius 5.1m
Wheels and Tyres:
Pressed steel rims
4.5″ x 15″
Wheelbase – 2473mm
Length – 4354mm
Width – 1676mm
Height – 1450mm
Top speed – 153kph
0-100kmh – 18.0 seconds
Economy: 9.3litres per 100kms
Colors – Red, White, Blue, Green, Black, Light Beige.
Price: 18,385 SEK
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Sunday Saab Flickr Dump

October 18, 2009 in Saabology

I’ve been saving some photo for a while now so it’s time once again for one of my favourite little pastimes here – sharing some of the best and/or most unique Saab photography on the web.
Here’s the latest bunch – enjoy!
Click to enlarge – and there’s even links this time to click through for bigger versions and more from the same photographer.
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USB drives being given away as part of the Saab 9-5 European roadshow. From Robin M (our unofficial Saab ambassador in the UK)
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I haven’t seen one of these before, from the Ice Driving experience at the Ice Hotel in northern Sweden. From Kachev.
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Black and White Aero-X models. Again, from Robin M
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From a man who owns an incredible Saab 96 cabriolet himself – Golfhunter – comes this very classy custom Saab.
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EnG Saturday morning snippets

October 18, 2009 in Editorial, Troll Stuff

It’s been a while since I’ve rapped at ya (10 brownie points if anyone can identify that reference), and I’ve seen a few things since the last entry and I thought that I’d lay them out for you.
First of all, it was inevitable that the new 2010 9-5 would hurt the value of the current generation 9-5, but even I would not have predicted something like this: Honest John in the UK is reporting that a UK discount auto broker is selling 2008-model Saab 9-5′s at about 60% of their original sticker price. That’s steep depreciation no matter how it got there. I’m certain that many of those cars were not sold at or near their original sticker price, but even with that taken into account, it’s still a shocking fall.
Not surprisingly, Saab sales are way down overall — see this from the East Sussex Saab Club via Twitter.
Once again, follow us on Twitter here:

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As a way to follow up Swade’s original 2010 Saab 9-5 brochure (the Norwegian version), the UK 2010 Saab 9-5 brochure may be found here.

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I spotted this Aston Martin in a Chicago parking garage recently. I was struck by some of the traditional Saab styling cues that I noticed. Almost as if it were the long-lost love child of the last Sonett and the AeroX. I totally see it.

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This set my mind to thinking… if Aston Martin can build this car, certainly it’s within the capabilities of the K-segg Group + Saab. Of course, assuming that we ever get there.
The AeroX is a nice shape, but there is something so sleek and “right” about the Aston. Low and edgy. Not to be trifled with.
Ah, well, food for thought.
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From a recent Car & Driver article on the upcoming Alfa-Romeo 8C Spider comes this statement about the elasticity of the Alfa-Romeo brand:

Alfa is perhaps the only brand that can credibly deliver both a budget subcompact and a $300,000 convertible. There’s a kind of artistry to that, too.

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I’m wondering if Saab can be such a brand under Koenigsegg Group ownership? After all, we are, for the most part, positive on the 9x concept and on the AeroX concept. Could both cars be good for Saab? Could Saab be a supercar purveyor and a brand for the everyman at the same time? Interesting question to ponder.
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Finally, I’m not 100% sure if this gent was out of his mind or if he’s just a Volkswagen enthusiast (could be the same thing?). Either way, inking it onto one’s arm is a bit much.

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BMW: our cars are overpriced?

October 17, 2009 in Saabology

There sure have been a lot of marketing screwups in the last few months.
GM had a campaign recently called The Best Car Wins where they invited people to vote for the brand they thought was best in a number of categories. Should they be surprised that when the votes were tallied, GM didn’t win a single category?
The Best Car Wins
Maybe they were using it as a benchmark to come back with an “I told you so” after a certain number of tests or something. But at the moment it just looks like another backfired marketing campaign (like the DIY videos for Tahoe they tried a few years ago).
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Just now, I spotted this ad on one of my local news websites. It’s BMW flogging the JOY horse again, this time trying to use some clever words to camouflage the fact they’re offering incentives.
BMW ad
“Credit where credit is due” usually means that you give something congratulations or praise when it worthy.
But when the ‘credit’ you’re talking about is $4,000 off the price, then the notion that it’s ‘due’ just implies that it’s overpriced to start with.

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Saab’s future: 9-3 soon, hybrids

October 17, 2009 in News

More stories are emerging in the mainstream media from the Saab 9-5 Euro roadshow events in England this week. It seems they’ve wisely used one of the shows as a press event rather than just a dealer/VIP event.
WhatCar have a pair of new articles based on their attendance. One of them is all about the new 9-5:

Distinctive and different – the 9-5 is a fine start to Saab’s new future

…..and the other is about Saab in general, which what I’d like to focus on here. When I saw a reference to a soon-coming Saab 9-3 in a Detroit news article I thought it was a typo. Perhaps not, as WhatCar mention this as well:

Small hatchbacks, hybrids and electric cars will all play a part in the future of newly liberated Saab.
The first of them is unlikely to be seen until at least late 2011, however. Replacements for the 9-5 saloon and estate, plus a new 9-3 and a compact SUV to be called the 9-4X will keep the company busy over the next 18 months.

They’re certainly making all the right noises. Small hatchbacks and a company busy in development for 18 months. That’s the sort of thing I like to hear.
Can do the new 9-3 that quickly, however?
My mail is the proposed 9-3 design that came from Germany as part of the “showroom of the future” is being dramatically reworked (read: discarded) but I guess that doesn’t necessarily mean that the whole car is being done from scratch.
The car will still most likely be built on GM’s new Delta architecture, which is now in use on the new Astra so what we’re looking at is a new skin and an appropriate infusion of Saab technology underneath and inside.
They know they need it and it sounds like they’re working feverishly at doing it.

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Chicken Soup for the Saab soul

October 17, 2009 in News

After the speed bump that has been the EIB Loan kerfuffle and ensuing discussion in the last few days (forgive me, I’m grumpy), this article from JustAuto really does read like good therapy.
JustAuto went along to one of the Saab 9-5 European roadshow events in England and sat down for a chat with Knut Simonsson. It’s a good reminder as to how things should/will be for a new, independant and resurgent Saab.
Click here to read the whole thing. Here’s a few tasty morsels.
My thanks to Kurt K for the link.

For a long time, GM appeared not to know what to do with its quirky Swedish premium brand. There was an almost criminal paucity of investment in new Saab product. And twelve year model cycles aren’t a recipe for competitive success. Even worse, industrial planners at GM were keen on consolidating output on a plant-platform basis so that more Saabs would be made by Opel at Russelsheim.

“We have accomplished a lot in a short space of time,” he says. “We were given the chance to change and we are doing that. Since the reorganisation began in February we have taken out excess stock, lowered our cost of production and transformed our balance sheet. We are very confident about our business plan.”

And there is undisguised joy that from the list of 34 potential buyers for Saab, the new Nordic owner – Koenigsegg – is facilitating a kind of Swedish homecoming for the brand. The Trollhattan plant will be the undisputed manufacturing and engineering heart for New Saab

Simonnson enthuses over the Chinese connection. Saab currently sells around 1,000 cars a year in China. He reckons importing cars for distribution by Beijing Auto could yield an immediate volume rise to 5,000-8,000 a year. If an agreement could be struck for local assembly, that figure should be three or four times higher.

While the pressures weighing down on the whole industry right now are considerable, Simonnson is undaunted. A smaller and leaner Saab, he believes, is well placed to take advantage of the shifting sands affecting everyone. Partnerships are key.

Simonsson sums it up: “These are exciting times. We have a small, flat and innovative organisation. We have experienced life at the bottom of the food chain, but now we have a new opportunity.”


And there’s a lot more where that came from.

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