2010 IIHS Top Safety Picks released - Saab not amongst them

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Safety has always been a top priority at Saab, even before they were the first manufacturer to fit safety belts as standard items on a vehicle.

I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the Saab 9-3 has been an IIHS Top Safety Pick ever since its release. There was a time when Saab was a safety leader, but as happens, others catch up.

Last year there were 94 cars that were awarded the IIHS Top Safety Pick. So like the people at EuroNCAP, the IIHS people decided to change the test and make it tougher. As a result, there were only 27 cars awarded the Top Safety Pick this year.

The new test included rollover protection for the first time.

ARLINGTON, VA - Nineteen cars and 8 SUVs earn the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's TOP SAFETY PICK award for 2010 For the first time, good performance in a roof strength test to measure protection in a rollover is required to win. TOP SAFETY PICK recognizes vehicles that do the best job of protecting people in front, side, rear, and now rollover crashes based on good ratings in Institute tests.

It should be noted that the Saab 9-3 was not tested for the 2010 results in terms of rollover protection. The lack of a Top Safety Pick award, therefore, should not lead to the conclusion that the 2010 model Saab 9-3 would not have been eligible.

Other former Top Safety Pick winning companies that missed out this year included BMW, Mazda and Mitsubishi.

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This brings up an interesting conundrum.

Saab, like any other company, would want to retain TSP and EuroNCAP 5-star status. Subaru are going to have yet another feather in their recently enlarged cap by gaining TSP status in all categories for which they were eligible. They were the only manufacturer to do so.

Real world crash statistics show that Saabs are still amongst the safest cars on the road and I'm sure they will look at these new tests and do what they can to satisfy them.

But one has to wonder how far these tests will end up going. If they continue to be non-exclusive as they were last year (94 winners), will they then find something else to add, just to make themselves a target again.



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We have to wonder why certain companies were left out of the testing. Was it due to lack of cars being supplied or a evil 5th column conspiracy at IIHS?


Maybe the explanation why no Saabs are tested could be quite simple. The 2010 models were not launched in US at the time of testing (the IIHS testing is related to vehicle Model Year).

By the way check ttela.se today. They say Saab is going to educate 4000 people (virtually all employees) in entrepreneurship. To me that sounds like new thinking.


It's always been comforting knowing Saab's past safety record with IIHS; however, I don't think this is the end all be all. Why is this (new test) so important now, that it wasn't back when? What's the urgency of implementing this test now? This rollover test could've been put in place, in the early nineties.


seams like top safety pics are the ones that were actually subject of roll over test.

I've also noticed that old (current) 9-5 scored only A (not G) in rear impact, while 9-7 scored even lower, in precedent years tests.


From Auto, Motor & Sport Sweden today: A total of 27 cars is ranked by IIHS as "Top Safety Pick 2010" and in that list we'll so to speak find the new SAAB 9-5. The platform sharing and close relative Buick LaCrosse (also known as Opel Insignia) got top score in the "Big Cars" category. The safety design on that platform is more or less done by SAAB, and that should therefor be no surprise that the result is very good.

Link here for scandinavians (I am sorry that I don't have time for translation of the whole article): http://www.automotorsport.se/news/19774/volvos-säkerhet-i-topp-enligt-iihs/

I can also tell that the swedish government now also has their thumps up for SAAB in a document on 80 pages heading for the EU Comission.

Link here for scandinavians (I am sorry that I don't have time for translation of the whole article): http://www.automotorsport.se/news/19773/regeringen-gör-tummen-upp-för-saab/

Cheers from Norway
-Olav-
Always on the longest road home when out there with my SAAB. Always!


From Auto, Motor & Sport Sweden today: A total of 27 cars is ranked by IIHS as "Top Safety Pick 2010" and in that list we'll so to speak find the new SAAB 9-5. The platform sharing and close relative Buick LaCrosse (also known as Opel Insignia) got top score in the "Big Cars" category. The safety design on that platform is more or less done by SAAB, and that should therefor be no surprise that the result is very good.

Link here for scandinavians (I am sorry that I don't have time for translation of the whole article): http://www.automotorsport.se/news/19774/volvos-säkerhet-i-topp-enligt-iihs/

I can also tell that the swedish government now also has their thumps up for SAAB in a document on 80 pages heading for the EU Comission.

Link here for scandinavians (I am sorry that I don't have time for translation of the whole article): http://www.automotorsport.se/news/19773/regeringen-gör-tummen-upp-för-saab/

Cheers from Norway
-Olav-
Always on the longest road home when out there with my SAAB. Always!


I say we submit a classic Saab 96 for the rollover test. I bet it would pass.


Rune,

You bet it would pass. Eric Carlsson - "on the roof" rarely needed his roll cage..

And try chopping thru the A pillars on a 99 or 900. It blunts the saw blades - and jams the hydraulic jaws - so they cut at the roof join instead.


It would be interesting to learn a bit more about Saab's competitors when it comes to safety.

I'm currently borrowing a friend's VW somethingsomething. The side mirrors are freakishly small (I don't want to insult anyone, so I'll stop there). I miss my 9-3.


I wouldn't worry too much except for the fact that 2010 models weren't released in time for the test. Saab has always had the "passenger cage" so with an added rollover test I'm pretty confident that the 9-3 and the new 9-5 would have taken top honors.


I was surprised to see that 9-5 was not picked neither in previous years. As I said before, because of less then perfect score for rear impact.


Remember, The 9-5 from previous years is on a platform thats what, 12 years old? Not suprised it doesn't live up to today standards. There is only so much you can do with old tech like that. The NG95 should do much better once it is avaliable for testing.


I think that it's great that Saab has tons of competition for this segment of performance. If all cars were very, very safe these rankings would be meaningless. That's what we should all strive for, yes? We should be so lucky that the IIHS tests are irrelevant because everyone would be very safe.

The fact that the IIHS raised the bar is more about preserving their influence than saving lives in my opinion.


The fact that the IIHS raised the bar is more about preserving their influence than saving lives in my opinion.

@Eggs, Good Point. I haven't thought of it like that.........


Haha, I like how your mind works, Mike ! ;-)

Absolutely. If more and more cars attain the top ranks, it's simply beneficial for consumers and motorists.


I do not see the roof test record for 9-3, I think that is the reason.


Eggs, your last sentence sums up succinctly what I was trying to say in the whole final section.

At some point, this comes down to these bodies trying to maintain their importance. As Neil said, this is something they could have instituted ages ago.

About the 9-5 - it doesn't have as many airbags as other cars due to its old platform and most likely, the fact that it sells in small numbers (therefore high cost to develop) and is vey safe already. Some of these ratings don't go on crash results, but rely on the presence of certain equipment as a pre-condition to achieving the rating.

No rear side-curtains (or whatever), no good rating, regardless of crash results.


The fact that the IIHS raised the bar is more about preserving their influence than saving lives in my opinion.

I am glad they're raising the bar. IMO crash tests should be made even harder. I strongly suspect the OG 9-5 will do quite nicely, compared to the competitors, if the tests were conducted at 80 kph rather than 60 kph.

And given that Folksam has consistently awarded the OG 9-5 a top rating for a decade, I am a bit surprised to learn that rear impacts pose a danger... Razvan's comment seem to indicate that it isn't all about the missing safety curtains.


Rune: this is the link: http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/headrestraints.aspx?saab

9-5 has A (acceptable) at dynamic rating and G(good) at Seat/head restraint geometry, resulting in a overall A (instead of maximum G)


Rune,

No one has suggested that the IIHS shouldn't raise the bar. I think the main point and intent of Eggs' statement is that the IIHS cares (FIRST) about being the #1 authority on safety and being relevant. After that (SECOND), saving lives is their next priority, not the other way around.

I too wanted tougher tests and standards, for years. I lost 2 very important people in my life due to car crashes.


Ah, I see. I thought you meant that the 9-5 offered virtually no protection at all in case of a rear impact, unlike the one Swade posted about the other day (the 9-3 that had stopped a truck).

Whiplash is bad, but my first concern as a passenger is surviving the crash itself. I'll worry about my neck later. I still think Folksam's statistics correctly show the old 9-5 as the safest car of its class.

My boss witnessed a weird accident the other day. She was tailgating a slow guy in the passing-by lane. When he finally noticed her flashing lights, there was an impatient BMW approaching in the other lane and he nearly hit the other guy. The beamer was so annoyed that he switched lanes, passed the slow dude, switched back and immediately applied the brakes...


IIHS is about getting people to select safer cars and to get manufacturers to make safer cars. Folksam have the same goal. After all, this is research and testing funded by insurance companies and they want safer cars as that minimize the costs for the insurance companies.

A lot of people die or get hurt by rollover accidents. In USA about 25% of the deaths caused by car crashes are due to rollovers, among the SUV's the number is 59%. So that's the reason of introducing a test for it.

Saab have been testing their own vehicles for roll overs quite long, even convertibles.


Johan, let's not start an attempt to lecture me on insurance companies. You don't want to open a can of worms. Trust me.

That said, you have your opinion, I have mine.....


It's common knowledge that insurance companies are well known for buying radar guns and giving them to police. Get a ticket, watch out, your premium may go up. Go ahead, check it out for yourself.


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