GP: BAIC/GM conflict sunk Koenigsegg Group

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There's a few interesting news reports out this morning. The best of them is Göteborgs Posten's article on what it was that broke the Saab deal.

Koenigsegg Group have been very quiet about why the deal broke down, saying only that delays in the process made the risks involved too prominent for them. As I wrote earlier today, with the money almost in the bag and the plans approved, there must have been more involved here than a little bit of fear.

GP claim that it was tension between GM and Beijing Automotive with regard to intellectual property that was the main issue.

The Googletrans:

GM thought it was good [when] Baic went in as a minority owner. Then the Chinese transparency is limited. When Baic demanded transparency in the level of their capital investment shrank GM, "said a government official.

Intellectual property rights are patents, trademarks, ideas and more. GM was concerned that much knowledge could be Chinese, in general, knowledge that was strategically very important in Detroit as GM chose not to sell the Opel to Canadian / Russian Magna.

To paraphrase......

GM didn't mind at first when BAIC got involved because their money supported the deal and would help get it done. As time went on, BAIC began to demand a few more things in exchange for their involvement, which is when GM started to hesitate.

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This story concurs with the second piece of Djup Strupery I've received today.

Djup Strupe passed on to me that BAIC contacted Koenigsegg Group on the weekend and informed them of some new requirements they needed for their involvement to go ahead.

From what we read here at GP.se, this is possibly not the first time this has happened, and the prospect of more delays whilst these requirements were negotiated between BAIC, Koenigsegg and GM were quite likely the delays that Koenigsegg have cited as the reason for them pulling out.

The GP.se article states that Koenigsegg Group evolved into a sort of intermediary between BAIC and GM, a role that they possibly didn't expect nor had time for given the volume of work to be done.

It's an interesting insight as to what's happened here and GP.se's story definitely rings close to what I'm hearing.

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My thanks to Peter for the link.



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I suspected it wasn't so much the timing as much as the GM/BAIC relation.

Ford is undergoing the same process with Geely for the possible sale of Volvo. It's progressing very slooooowly, and it too may collapse:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601209&sid=a5RMMK9f7IlA


Yea the truth is finally coming out. Who's the villain now? Me thinks it is not K-Segg. Though they should have really though twice before bringing the Chinese into this considering the sensitivity they surely could have foreseen GM having. Oh well. Go Merbanco!

For all the witch hunters that were wishing death to certain K-segg members- how sad your comments seem in light of more information. Might I suggest a little more restraint in the future? Thanks


Yes. Sad when certain members here and on other Saab sites were hailing CvK as the next saviour of SAAB, only to so quickly turn around and curse him after the bad news broke out yesterday. [sigh]


A slight retreat from the high ground, gents, eh? People were entitled to vent a bit yesterday and CvK was the public face of this deal.

Bard Eker himself stood outside the factory yesterday and said that if the factory people wanted to beat him up, they could as they deserved it. Obviously not serious, but even he realised the gravity of the situation.

I think people will be suitably apologetic of their own accord.

The important thing is that the info comes out and we get a real chance to understand the various roles played.


In my opinion GP has printed a lot of wrong and negative information about the SAAB deal in the past. So just because this information is fitting in a "who to blame" hole, I think this new information should be aproached with extreme caution.


Well, the original criticism of Koenigsegg is still valid - that they were undercapitalized for a deal of this size. That lack of capital led them to bring in BAIC, whose conflict with GM led to the last minute collapse.


I should add my enthusiasm for Koenigsegg was based on the bidder selection process - I thought the question of adequate capitalization had been addressed. Obviously that was wrong.


We have to admit that the purchase of Saab by K-Segg Group was a highly complicated transaction.
In a case like this, until the final agreements are signed, any party (BAIC, GM etc.) can raise new issues. It is a question of negotiating the best for you.

I think K-Segg Group, as the "junior partner" stood in the middle of two millstones and got "pulverized". That's why they surrendered.

Now, I hope that everyone learned his lesson: BAIC not to overdo things, GM to lower their demands, the Government to give more support....

Saab is not dead! Let's start again!


Great... just shows how sick life has got. What did GM expect? Dear BAIC, give you your money, but please don't expect too much back? If you don't like the Chinese (for good, democratic reasons): you should not have started this game at all. Intellectual property? GM, with all respect: most patents reside with the automotive suppliers or the likes of Mercedes and BMW. GM is just not playing in that league. How naive (or arrogant) can they get? Just shows how stupid they are really and explains why GM has gotten into this situation in the first place. Also shows that their attitude has not changed through the circumstances did: they (and not the others) stand with their backs to the wall, but still think they have room to manoeuvre. Free to Winston Churchill: they can always be counted on to do the right thing, after they have explored all the other alternatives. Nothing's changed over the last 50 years... Regards, frustation of a former strategy consultant in the automotive sector, who knows the sick tricks of GM in the Opel case first hand (worked for Forster and Demant). My apologies to be that straightforward, but GM deserves it.


Agreed, Greg.

Whatever happened with BAIC was only able to happen because KG were vulnerable and needed the help. That should have been sorted, as you suggest, in the selection process.


So basically KG need to find someone who GM approve of to put in the additional funds? Surely it would be cheaper for GM to loan KG the money to get the transaction completed than to sink it without trace? Unless someone else is in the wings?


GM does not want to sell Chinese. Swedish Government helps K-sseg. k-sseg is quickly decides not to buy ... looks like K-sseg will buy all stake, allone! ..... would be a good scenario!


It seems that Merbanco is back in the game:

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1792997/uppgifter-i-natt-nu-vill-bank-kopa-saab

It's in Swedish, so you can use Google Trans as usually.


Not a real surprise that the BAIC/GM thing could let this fail. It shows how much Bishop leaving the building affected the whole thing in the end.

Still it's a matter of how much GM wanted to close the deal because they could push it all in a certain direction by their reaction to BAIC's demands. We'll maybe see the intention after the next announcement by GM.

Still I think that todays Saab is better off than it was at the beginning of the year so a buyer could be found easier than before.

I think it was a good move from CvK and Eker so go to the factory yesterday, maybe the best move communicationwise within the whole process...

That all shall not be the end for Saab, despite of their sales numbers. They've come so far this year and with those new products in the pipeline future should be bright with the right parent.

Well stubborn as I am I'll anyway see my dealer now. I hope I can make a letter of intent to get a new car. Or even a binding purchase agreement...


I think Koenigsegg could still have a part to play in the sale of Saab, just not a major one. I hope something can be sorted out with other investors.


Seems a sad state of affairs but I suspect it is not over yet. If GM have thrown a spanner in the works I guess they have a vested interest (Who owns them these days?) and if KE have just withdrawn well I guess they went in with good intentions at least, so kudos for that. They probably have other options with less risk attached.

What will be telling is whether GM or the SV government really scuttle the deal as that would say a lot about their consideration for anything other than what might be considered their 'narrower' interests.


We need to think of GME's new plan under new boss Nick Rielly if we are to see where Saab can fit. There is some interesting and relevant comment at Autocar re Nick Rielly's plans for GM Europe.

www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/autocarconfidential/archive/2009/11/25/gm-s-global-dream-is-back-on-track.aspx

GME plans (they stated yesterday) will be set within 3 weeks suggesting no time for a new buyer to emerge. Personally I sense Saab is out of time as a stand alone operation though the Brand may live on within GME, perhaps with the 9-5 being pulled and a fast forwarded Astra based 9-3 made at Ellesmere Port?


Good point there about Bishop, easy to forget him since so much has happend. He probably was the "K-segg capitalisation factor" at the start of it and when BAIC came in things changed. In the beginning it seemed like BAIC had very few demands. But now it seems they have added more an more for their money, which finally became too much. Really feel sorry for the K-segg guys, hope they could come into the game again in some way.


Sounds like a case of business getting in the way of business...... why is everything so complicated these days?


I am not ready to forgive Koenigsegg group yet.

*Göteborgs posten say it was the demands from BAIC that stopped the deal.
*SvD says that Koenigsegg Group got cold feet and realized that they were in over their head. *Expressen say it is because of quality issues with the new 9-5.

BUT both von Koenigsegg and Eker say it was because they ran out of time. But we know that the EIB loan was only a few days away. Do really a few days more matter?

So which explaination should we believe in? For now I believe in Koenigsegg Group official explaination.

And also now that the deal is off, both von Koenigsegg and Eker say that they believe there is no hope for Saab. What kind of farewell present is that? Comments like that only make people lose even more hope and make Saab bleed even more!


I hear what you are saying but I have to note it is quite unusual for some of the key players to front at the factory to face the music. I think we will have to wait and see.


My conclusion is if they can't approve of BAIC with limited transparency demanded by a, what looks like, a quite reasonable chinese, it seems likely that GM is unlikely to sell Saab to anybody but personal friends. Maybe Saab should try to reenter reconstruction (or even immediately enter bankruptcy proceedings) in order to force GM's hand?



Merbanco should buy Saab from GM as it is the only company with no intelectual property right problems
that quickly can take over before 1st of january.

Merbanco should as Saabs owner start to collaborate with Koenigsegg on development of engines and new materials and technologies. Basicly offer CvK a unique product development position in the company.
Merbanco should also launch a K-edition Saab 9-5, and finally make use of the EIB loan application for lean-grean-technologies.

The situation is a win-win situation for Saab, GM, koenigsegg and Merbanco. Everyone can be friends again.

Where do I send the bill to Deutche Bank??


http://ttela.se/ekonomi/saab/1.654618
Maybe Merbanco is back on track?


They problem, as CvK did explained in an interview, is not about availability of money, but the fact that as long as the deal isn't signed, neither Koenigsegg group nor EIB can pour any money into Saab.



From TTELA & EXPRESSEN

According to Expressen, the U.S. merchant bank Merbanco again shown interest in Saab.
The head of the bank, Mr Johnston has a plan ready for Saab.
- Saab have to start building cars that buyers want, and take care of their customers, "said Johnston told Expressen.

German Deutsche Bank last summer, picked up three main candidates for the purchase of Saab, the Swedish Koenigsegg Group, U.S. Renco Group, with clear links to General Motors, and American Commercial Bank Merbanco.

Of these three, General Motors chose to begin the final negotiations with the Koenigsegg Group.
Now Koenigsegg Group dropped out of the deal have Merbanco, with Saab-enthusiast Christopher Johnston expressed interest again.

According to information provided to Expressen was Johnston last night in contact with representatives of Saab Automobile and he is - according to the source - "on the track again.


Please please please Merbanco save the day!


Deutsche Bank have hardly covered themselves in glory on this one if my sources are correct. As per your comment - any of use could have done more with 5mins thought. Makes me wonder if they weren't running an interference play for Opel & German unions. Anythings possible.

Merbanco cash, stability & leadership with a K-Segg halo would be a nice outcome at this point. Somehow I suspect that the allure of that soft entry into China is hard for any of the players to resist though.


At the moment there is only one thing I am sure of, and that is that there will be written books and made documentaries about the sale of Saab.


"I thought the question of adequate capitalization had been addressed. Obviously that was wrong."

Bishop, the man who started it all was the money man. Why would they have been picked if the money was not there? The man with the money ran away but before that happened everything was fine. So what if the plan called for getting the EIB loan. Forget all the armchair financial experts making judgments here. Everyone who actually saw the plans(GM, EIB, Swedish government) said it was a good and viable one and some were quite impressed if we are to believe what we have read here from the DSs.

If the money was not there they would not have made it past the first round. Things happen. Money can flee from a company by more than one way. In K-segg's case it was one man who ran away out of apparent agoraphobia. Take some other large company that may have shown interest and been picked as THE bidder. The economy or any number of business "issues" could have wiped it out in the interim. There are no absolutes in this world. Just because you are sitting pretty one minute does not mean you will be the next.

In the end I still say that if the latest reports are true the money is not the main issue. I remember K-Segg mentioning there being several avenues of funding to explore to replace the missing money man Bishop. They just picked the wrong one. And now, although they could just tell BAIC to take a hike and find some of their other friends with money, it is a time issue just as they said. I think they lost faith and were just so beat down by the whole process and did not have the patience left to deal with two demanding cry babies on either side of them. Money is an issue here but not the issue. Other money can be found but time and apparently patience cannot.



Swade! There´s a report in expressen today that Johnston from Merbanco contacted Saab and GM and is in the deal again! I don´t know if they got it from saabsunited, certainly some info is from here, but if it´s true, then it´s magic!

http://www.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.1792997/uppgifter-i-natt-nu-vill-bank-kopa-saab


Let’s …boycott k-segg products. All of us SU members should promise that we won’t spend any of our millions in their products. Hopefully some sarcasm and humor we’ll bring a smile in our faces during these troubled times.


Count me in - I will never buy A Koenigsegg.. hehe Good one.


It's a very harsh decision, but in times like this I will show my solidarity and join the boycot. Until further I will not buy any Koenigsegg products.


Well I don't know about a boycott, I have been negotiating with the guys for the last six months and next week I was going to transfer the money. To cancel now just don't seem right.

Of course it was the bank's money, just for clarification.


Good one. Count me in, too. ;-)


GP.se have been running with this angle from the start. On Tuesday,when I posted a link to their first story about unsuccessful BAIC negotiations being the real reason for the KG withdrawal, Swade had this to say:

"I wouldn't read too much into the BAIC angle. GP.se haven't been known for accurate theories in the past and I'd urge caution on giving that one too much credence.

I spoke with Saab just two or three days ago and everything was signed up and ready with BAIC and agreement had been reached from the BAIC and the GM side on their participation.

Nice scapegoat, but I'm not ready to use that one yet."

As far as I know, GP.se are still the only ones reporting this as the reason. So why is it suddenly so much more credible?


Börjesson,

That was my mistake. I got my news services confused (I confused GP with Expressen, who I definitely don't trust).

My unreserved apology is all yours.


Accepted, of course! Expressen have really stunk consistently through all of this. (They're reliable that way. ;) They have a Gothenburg subsidiary at GT.se, so I can see where you may have gotten confused.

Mind you, I'm not all that impressed by Göteborgs-Posten either. It's my local paper, so I read it a lot, and their journalism has really gone downhill in recent years. But they're well connected in these parts, so they may well be onto something here.


Like Saaburban, I envision Merbanco coming in to replace BIAC. This way, the plan is intact, loans can go forward, etc. CJ Did say they'd be willing to "help out"; I don't take that as meaning they have to replace K-Segg.

However, I say this with mixed feelings, because I'm not totally thrilled with K-Segg's plan to make Saab an elite (translated: high-priced) vehicle that I'll never be able to afford again.

Through my rambling, I find I would prefer Merbanco to take over as majority owner and business plan, keeping K-Segg as figureheads.


I agree. CvK was also a "local" face.


Unless I am mistaken the Swedish newspaper SvD quotes Bård Eker as saying:
“Vill de anställda slå oss så får de det” upon visiting the Saab factory yesterday morning.

http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/nyheter/artikel_3849739.svd

Google translates this as: "Do they want employees to beat us, they'll get it”

This is akin to saying that “if the employees wanted to take it out on them then they would be entitled to do so” –and hence he would understand this.

This is a self-effacing statement and perhaps does not suggest that they [K-Segg] “deserved” it.


CvK is also quoted/translated as saying:
“It feels good to be here, but obviously I am incredibly sad that there was [n’t?] something [more positive to say?]. Besides time and heart, we have spent over 100 million [SEK?] during the six months we have been involved in the process”.

In the same article Paul Åkerlund, the IF Metall chairman at Saab is quoted/translated as saying:
“We know about some things we cannot say to the media right now. And we must check if it really is as it says, or if there are other hidden things”.


Venting is fine and it goes without saying that it should be done without prejudice and in a reasoned and civilised way. Anything more should be reserved for the gym! It could be said that CvK showed courage and leadership (the same could be said of CJ/Merbanco) by being the public face whilst others preferred the anonymity of their respective brands and PR outlets.


The due diligence and subsequent selection of K-Segg (which at that time including ‘Bishop’) for this process and, as noted by others, was decided by GM and Deutsche Bank AG.

However, even with Bishop pulling out early, CvK says that it was not an issue of finance but one of timely signatures for the deal (ref. Mailr).


The Koenigsegg group it would appear conducted themselves with integrity and professionalism and in the best interests of Saab. I hope there is still a chance for them to be a part of Saab’s future and, that what is unfolding here is high brinkmanship and sabre-rattling as a result of others.


WOW, what 12 hours of no reading will do....

I cannot blame GM for not wanting BAIC to have too much of a look-see into up coming technology... and I cant blame CvK for this either.

From a pure business sense, it makes the best move to cancel the deal. "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em"

I always thought this deal was too big for CvK, but i never wanted it to fail, and I sure never wished death on him like others. He's human too and it was simply too much of a steak to chew on.


Greg Abbott +1. Well said. BAIC was a long shot needed by Koenigsegg.


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