I am pretty confident that we’ll know Saab’s fate in a little over 48 hours from now. Between 48 and 56 from the time of writing, I reckon.
GM will either sell Saab to one of the bidders on the table, or they’ll liquidate Saab’s operations, rebadge their models as other cars within the GM range, and effectively call an end to more than 60 years of iconic Swedish automobile production in Trollhattan.
A very large portion of my fondest memories in life have involved cars. From the Gemini and Torana of my youth to Holdens and Alfa Romeos owned by friends, and finally, my experiences with Saab. I’m mechanically inept, but I do consider myself to be a car guy. A car junkie, in fact, although a selective one.
Generally speaking, I wouldn’t consider myself an automotive historian. But I love getting into the history behind the marques that I love. And Saab’s history is a rich one full of wins against the odds, innovation, determination and individuality. There’s a stubborn commitment to doing things their way that I absolutely love about this company. Not because it’s rebellious, but because 99% of the time, it was right.
If I could have done one more thing to help Saab this week, it would have been to pass on a copy of the book, The Spirit of Saab, to Ed Whitacre. I don’t imagine it would make one single iota of difference to his decision making, but at least he’d be more aware of the great company he’s contemplating dropping the axe on.
I guess that’s the one thing that really kills me about this whole situation.
Saab’s future isn’t going to be decided by the reality of their potential or the new models they’ve developed. It’s going to be decided by a board of men and women thousands of miles away from Trollhattan. These men and women have very little attachment to the Saab branch of the company.
What they seek is goodwill with their shareholders because right now, satisfying an angry bunch of shareholders (the US taxpaying public) is key to getting those people back on side as customers. A quick buck helps.
So a six-decade long history and a promising future could well be set aside by a bunch of people who don’t really care about Saab, led by a temporary CEO who admits he doesn’t know much about cars.
It’s business for him, but it’s personal for me.
The Saab automobile manufacturing unit has a history, a corporate philosophy and a product that I love. I relate to it. It makes sense to me. I see other supposedly fantastic modern cars and I wonder what on earth people see in them to love them so.
And it’s not just me because I’ve met people all over the world who feel the same way. Saab gets under your skin, into your blood. It’s the combination of factors that Saabs offer that does it and I’m still yet to see another manufacture satisfy so many of my automotive needs, so well.
It’s individuality. Humanity.
Saab have had some of those characteristics watered down a bit over time, but they’re still there. Those characteristics and the potential for the future are the reason people the calibre of Ecclestone, Genii, Muller, Merbanco, Samuelsson and Nygren are interested in this company.
We believe in it. They believe in it, too.
I’m really unsure as to how the next few days are going to play out because I don’t think that GM believe in Saab in any way, shape or form. The sad reality is that Saab is GM’s asset to do with as it pleases, subject to the law. It’s all just numbers on a spreadsheet to them and that scares me – a lot.
There are enough people around who believe in Saab for me to believe in a positive future for this most excellent of car companies. From old customers looking for a re-birth to new customers looking for a way out of that automotive Matrix.
All I can do right now is remember the good times, hope for some better times and thank all of these bidders for believing enough in Saab to give us all this last chance.
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Go Saab, Go! Griffin Up!
swade that was a good one you know ur way with words always with respect ..but hitting you like a sledghammer..as we say here in french ebonics ca fesse fort!!!
I couldn´t have said it better my self! Lets just hope that the saga continues. Just imagine a GM-free Saab once more! Happy thoughts!
You write so well and have done so much.
I still hope there will be a positive outcome.
I’m pretty sure all depends on the Swedish government. Will they secure the EIB loan? If not, then it will be over…
Lets hope the Swedish government has taken a wisen decision. They have spoken to each (?) interested party and know about their bid and how they plan to manage the company in the future. It will the Swedish government who will be able to help GM in taking the best possible decision.
swade, your writing sounds a little bit like a eulogy…I hope that in a few days we can read it again while having a smile of relief and optimism in our faces…
May the best bidder be accepted as buyer!
+1
Swade you are tha MAN! 1000 kudos for keeping us and the world up to date.
Next couple of days will be exciting to say the least!
Cowboy UP!
Dear Steven,
There’s no one in the world I know who has done more than you to help saving Saab!
Thanks in the name of all Saab fans worldwide!!
Steven up!
Victor up!
Bernie up!
Saab up!
I found a link from about four years ago here at SU.
I think it says it all really…
http://www.saabsunited.com/2005/12/saab-innovations.html
Griffin Up!
dear Swade,
I truly admire you for your fantastic efforts to share with the worldwide community your well-informed point of view on Saab’s future.
I certainly hope there will be an automotive future with inspiring Saab cars, starting with the new 9-5 I already saw and enjoyed at the Belgium presentation show.
And if everything turns out well, I hope you will be properly acknonwledged by the new Saab owners, who will, as I presume, find out later on the decisive role you played for Saab’s survival.
On behalf of myself, and I presume also for the other Saab lovers, many many thanks.
best regards, Pascal
I am really glad you wrote this post! This morning while I was in the shower getting cleaned up to come to work, I was thinking along these same lines.
What about Saabs heritage….
GM, a mega-disaster comes along and destroys a long and proud heritage of safety and innovation.
I’ll admit I am new to Saab, but the Saab bug bit and bit me hard….. I feel attached and dedicated to the brand more than I ever thought possible.
I am sicked at the thought of such corporate greed and lack of integrity.
I am disgusted to have always been such a dedicated GM man. Howeever times have changed, GM’s handling of Saab opening my eyes to many things in the car industry.
I hope that we have good news to talk about in the days to come and I look forward to a trek to Trollhattan to celebrate a new Saab with my new friends from Saab and SU.
Griffin UP!
I think we have done what we can, for now.
All the parties are gonna meet during the next couple of days. GM have clearly stated their position; closure unless someone buys SAAB. The stunt with the liquadator and the tranformation of the NG9-5 to Buick is hopefully just to set the right “mood” during negotiatons. The bidders have hopefully given their best and now it is mainly up to the Swedish government to accept the bidders and to guarantee the loans.
I wonder how stuborn Maud can be?
Swade, you’ve put into words what I wish I could think of every time I’m asked that question. I’m asked that question often, but it’s a difficult question to answer in a few words.
Good stuff. You are right about one thing — “Spirit of Saab” would have made zero difference to Ed Whitacre. As you well know, I think that his decision has to be a 100% financial one, and he’s got plenty of people looking over his shoulder.
Oh, and you really think that the decision will be public that quickly? I’m not so sure — I’d have pegged it more like a couple of weeks.
Dear Mr Muller, Mr Johnston and all other bidders for SAAB´s continued existance and prosperous future…
What is Your predictions? You say that GM wants to sell but will they? Are you 80% convinced or 100% convinced that one of the bids will save SAAB?
It would help us get the spirit up enormously if you gave your look on the situation at hand. You are close to everything said, know the reactions to your bids from both GM and the swedish Government officials. Or are you left out in the cold for the time being?
Cheers from a hopefull Swede and SAAB driver/ Tom in Uppsala
I am on my first SAAB, a 9-3SC, and I am absolute in love with it.
I have never felt this way with any other I have owned. All the others have been just what they suppose to be, cars. But driving A Saab us different. The cars are different, the management are different are different, hell, even the bidders are different. Putt all this together and top this with the SU comunity. That’s what makes it for me. And O think the fat lady is still in the forest, so I have not given up.
MOVE YOUR MIND…..
And great work Swade! I hope that your efforts get recognized outside our lite communiti as well!
I wonder if the mood at negotiations with GM is the opposite to a candle light dinner?
I’m sure we’re all thinking along those lines…. Big Griffin Ups all round !!!
A question though -
Even if GM wind down Saab, there’s still the potential for someone to buy the name / re-launch the brand down the track, right?
Secretary of State is hopeful
Secretary of State Joran Hagglund has not given up hope that Saab can find a new owner. (DN.se yeaterday)
- We ‘re not going to Detroit to talk about how a settlement should work, “says Hagglund.
On Saturday he goes to the U.S. for a few days to meet GM’s and Ford’s lines and discuss the future of the Swedish automotive industry and the two companies.
Hagglund said he has seen preliminary data from the groups that reported bid to buy Saab.
- There are many reputable people, “says Hagglund, but added that he will not and at this stage want to comment on whether he believes that the bids are genuine or not.
- We shall see what we can do that, if possible, contribute to positive sales of Saab, Hagglund said before his trip, but added:
- But we have no interest in contributing to a sale by which an unserious stakeholder buy Saab and then basically just draining off the contents and leave the leftovers, “says Hagglund that despite repeated questions does not want to do any analysis of the bids he had seen a preliminary base.
Hagglund and the working group created in the Cabinet Office to devote the weekend and the days in the U.S. to go through the bids. And he appreciates the fact that GM management would meet with the Swedish government representatives. This suggests, according to Hagglund, that GM is interested to hear the Government’s view of the commandments and the state. And there is an opportunity for government to tell us more detail about how long it would take to prepare the ground for the government guarantee for EIB loans and other things, whether any of the stakeholders are deemed worthy to pursue.
- We have built a relationship with GM, I do not think they minded adults, “says Joran Hagglund re-emphasizes that it is GM that takes the decisions.
He would not give any details, more than that to happen early in the week, when he and his traveling companions will meet with GM’s and Ford’s lines.
Amen, and Viking Up! This isn’t over yet!!
Hello Swade
Thanks for your efforts and great engagement to rescue Saab. Still hope that a miracle will tell the GM no-brainers (incl. Ed Whitacre und Bob Lutz) what they have to do. Sell Saab!!!
best regards, Christof
Count me an optimist, but I’m now thinking that the chance of Saab being sold is now about 83,75% plus or minus and gets a bit stronger every day. There is little chance of GM doing “the right thing.” They will do what makes the most sense for GM. They’ve said they want a sale. Swade says he believes that they want a sale. If they didn’t want a sale, there was no reason for them to extend the process after rejecting Spyker in mid-december, extending the deadline from December 31 to December 7, etc. The bids are in. They haven’t rejected them out of hand. The bids appear to be responsible. The Swedish officials traveling to Detroit are not coming because they want to sightsee in Detroit’s blighted neighborhoods. They are coming with guarantees, either explicit and in writing, or to say things that can not be committed to writing but will be understood by GM. GM wants someone to “show them the money.” Someone will. GM needs to be assured that whoever takes over Saab has the expertise to run them responsibly so that things don’t come back to haunt them. These bidders didn’t get where they are by not knowing how to run a business and that is what is needed. JAJ and the gang in Trollhatten can run production. The new Owner will be able to take care of the rest.
Swade, again, that’s exactly how it is/feels!
Swade, really well said and from the heart and mind. Does sound like a eulogy, though, and perhaps that is realism overtaking hope. But it can still happen, and for the next 48 hours, I’ll cling to that possibility.
I agree. While I share all the passion expressed here over the last several months, we have to keep in mind that this will be a business decision based on the financials for GM. We see SAAB as a “lovemark”, GM sees it simply as a financial asset.
Here’s hoping the numbers in the bids and willingness of the Seedish Gov’t. to provide some level of involvement support a sale.
Griffin Up!
I still think the stand of the Swedish government will definitely make a difference. It is time for the Swedish government to put its foot down and demand in no uncertain terms for a sale of the company and to state clearly that a liquidation of any company on Swedish soil is totally out of the question! Don’t get dragged around by the American, assert your own terms to safeguard interests of fellow Swedish workers and industries in Trollhattan and uphold the Swedish pride which most of us treasured.
Swade: Great post! Says it all.
Tompa: I can’t make predictions if they will sell. However, if they are willing, I know there is one proposal that meets all requirements, with due diligence fully completed, that closes quickly. If there is a better bid out there, so be it.
If they want to sell, they certainly have that option under their terms, with a group who knows how to close. Maybe patience and tenancity will finally be rewarded.
Cowboy UP!
Opps, Swedish…
Great comment, hughw!
That’s exactly as I see things. If GM wasn’t serious about selling SAAB, they would have got rid of them a long time ago.
All they want is money (from the bidders) and commitment (from the swedish government).
GM = Greedy Moneygrubbers!
SAAB up!
GM down!
@Mëllechmann: Hues du och e Saab fir deng Mëllech auszeliweren?
I think we have done everything we can by writing GM and our representatives. However I would urge everyone that if this goes south we need to bombard our representatives one last time because GM needs to be held accountable. If they do not sell I will be a one man force to make sure GM fails, my tax dollars be damned. I would think that the quick buck theory is a myth because Saab in pieces reallly isn’t worth much. The only reason I can see GM pursuing this option is to sell Buick 9-5s in China. If that’s the case than trully FUGM may you be consigned to the scrap heap of history. You will not win over any Saab customers and as I remember a person who has a bad experience tells 10 other people. That would be 1.5 million Saab owners resulting in 15 million people who will never buy a GM product. Be smart save your self the pain and hassles and just sell Saab. Or maybe I’ll buy Ed’s desk set at the liquidation sale in a few years.
Words such as those are our greatest comfort right now, CJ. I wish you the best in your Saab endeavor: hoe couldn’t I?
This waiting is really painful and does terrible things to the health. Saab is not just a company, it feels more like a close friend. I don’t want the December 18 feeling ever again, this time it would be even worse.
I hope the Swedish government finally realizes what has to be done.
Griffin Up!
Cowboy Up!
(Be)NeLux Up!
Swade, your writing was, as always, just awesome!
I’d like to add there that for some SAAB nuts, SAAB is just like a religion. You know, usually religious people will go to church/synagogue/mosque (or whatever your religion is) every once in a while. I prefer to attend those SAAB conventions our native Saabclub is organizing every once in a while.
So if GM will wind down SAAB once and for all, it’s like “there’s no god anymore”.
Well, I didn’t want to sound too “religious” but I think that all SAAB nuts over here got the point?
Swade, thanks!
I feel myself an “old customers looking for a re-birth”.
+1 for everything else.
Griffin UP!
Great words from a true SAAB enthusiast. I’m now on my 7th SAAB and love the brand.
However, when all is said and done if the Swedish Government and by extension the majority of Swedish voters cared enough, the government could step in to prevent liquidation. After all, if SAAB has half the potential most of you seem to say it has, why wouldn’t the Swedish Government take the chance?
CJ
Thanks again for your assuring words. If your bid is the winner, why not establish the Saab US Headquarters in Wyoming? Would show that Saab takes its own road!
Thanks, Swade, you said it again. You really manage to point out what it really is to be a SAAB lover.
Don’t dare braking up this fine company, Ed!!!!
Viking UP!
Optimistic cheers from Norway
-Olav-
Always on the longest road home when out there with my SAAB. Always!
Wouldn’t we get a good indication on the 15th? If they start shipping those tools to China, then they have not bothered looking at the bids. No?
Maybe we should arrange a convoy on the 15th and chain ourselves to the tools?
Best of luck to all.
Very well stated Swade. I believe what you have written speaks for all of us and our fondness and passion for the brand, and the appreciation we have for those who design, build and sell Saabs.
If GM sells Saab they will be doing the right thing, the responsible thing and the smart thing. If they continue along the path of closing Saab it will be an example of why they have been failing as an automobile manufacturer…shortsightedness and lack of passion for truly innovative products.
Given the offers that are on the table, the only reason GM would not sell Saab is that they fear that Saab may become a future competitor. I don’t think an automobile manufacturer can be successful in today’s global market if they fear competition. GM’s failure to sell Saab would tell the marketplace, and consumers, that they don’t think they can compete.
ah, you made me cry mr swade. thank you for this beautiful piece of writing.
thank you M Johnston for your comments, again i appreciate a lot!
And this is the uncertainty that paralyzes me.
Car journalist Collins are writing today, that the move of Saab 95 to China could be good for Saab since it might be too big for Europe (unless GM have decided to kill Saab at any price). He is also in Detroit and writes that he is going to interview Bob Lutz today, and will ask about Saab. On the way to Detroit he talked to one of the representatives from Swedish Government and he said he still beleives Saab can be saved; http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article6406279.ab.
There is also another articl about a meeting the Unions have held today. They say they haven´t got any response on the rumours of moving new Saab 95 to China but says that if this is true it must have been planned since some time back. They also think that GMs board are divided on whereas Saab should be sold or not, and hope this can give Saab a chanse.
CJ: I admire the tenacity, the implacably positive attitude and the patience you and your group have displayed throughout the whole bidding process. It is not just another instance of the traditional Alamo-ish spirit of never giving up, even when facing near-impossible odds but a superbly professional approach to what must be an incredibly complex business case.
Whether or not you emerge as the succesful buyer, you can derive pride and satisfaction from knowing that you have done all you could to make it so. I salute you and your people. How you are doing this is in my book an example of the way I believe business can and ought be done, even if it so often isn’t, these days.
I know you will understand if I say here that I have the same feelings about Victor Muller and his group. I really would like to see the both of you co-operating in this venture, if not in this phase than possibly after one of you becomes the winner. I can see lots of mutual advantages there.
However it turns out, thank you. Cowboy up!
Ivo
Maybe patience won’t be rewarded like in the case of OPEL. Maybe they are not willing to sell. That’s the point, because noone knows.
GM never knew how to handle Saab. All (last) year GM continuously replaced the office sitters of it’s executive board. Now there’s a CEO who just wants to enter in the history books by trying to save General Motors. He doesn’t care about the people who work at Saab in Sweden. He doesn’t car about Saab dealers. He doesn’t care about us Saab enthusiasts. He just doesn’t care about SAAB!
He only cares about his personal wellbeing. For that guy(s) at GM executive comittee, the loss of workforces are statistics. Nothing but numbers. Collateral damage.
They don’t know how to handle anything. Imagine how ignorant people must be to plunge the former largest automaker into ruin. There is no doubt that these guys are smart and highly educated, but then it was just not their cup of tea and should resign.
Majo, esou ass et
Always nice to read about things you can give positive expression. Of course we must belive that Saab will be sold to the good people. Thanks Swade. For those who are not so positive we will get a plan B. Let’s talk about this if plan A will fail.
Thank you Swade for all you’ve done. If Saab survives, the company should recruit you. Obviously, it’s not just about ‘the car’ but about all the people connected to this automotive philosophy and the contributions made – You are certainly at the top of the list.
Swade,
Being able to put your thoughts and feelings into words in such an eloquent fashion is a great talent and make no mistake that talent has informed, inspired and uplifted many who have the good fortune to have visited Saabs United and its predecessor Trollhattan Saab.
The coming days, perhaps weeks of uncertainty will no doubt give cause for further comment and I can think of no one better equipped to do so than yourself.
I hope that before too long you have the opportunity to write about a promising future for SAAB with new and responsible owners.
Guy’s.
Is there no funding for one final 1 page add in the most important US newpaper containing the Swades story mentioned above? “Why Saab’s sale or closure matters so much to me”
Something every American can read and rever to as the consequences of Whitacre acts
Obviously, I’ll chip in.
good idea!!!!!!!
How much would that cost and how fast can it be done?
I love SAAB.
I drive one.
My dad used to drive one before he passed away.
I went to Stockholm (in winter!) for my honeymoon.
I went there again a month ago.
I’m from Beirut.
I admire the Swedes and all things Swedish,
And I will be utterly disappointed from the Swedes if they didn’t stand up and save what is righteously and morally theirs.
Thank you Steven,
Hovsep
CJ, I admire Your modern leadership, taking the discussion on an open international arena. This is in my experience so unorthodox and non-american. I bet You have scandinavian genes…
The willingness to take on a discussion or debate regardless of beeing blue-collar or management is VERY Swedish. Everyone has the possibility to have his/her say. If the manager is gone the people will carry on making decisions in the “spirit” of the managers views.
This is how all Swedish military personell are trained, most grown-up men in sweden has done at least 9-14 month compulsory military training.
A new leadership without red-tape and must & do´s at Saab will make the future bright.
If swedes are shown trust the will be 100% loyal and can make miracles.
CJ, I admire Your modern leadership, taking the discussion on an open international arena. This is in my experience so unorthodox and non-american. I bet You have scandinavian genes…
The willingness to take on a discussion or debate regardless of beeing blue-collar or management is VERY Swedish. Everyone has the possibility to have his/her say. If the manager is gone the people will carry on making decisions in the “spirit” of the managers views.
This is how all Swedish military personell are trained, most grown-up men in sweden has done at least 9-14 month compulsory military training.
A new leadership without red-tape and must & do
Thanks Swade, you always know the right things to say! Maybe we should send the link that Zippy was talking about to Mr.Whitless-acre since he is so clueless as to what SAAB has brought to the table for the past 60 years!
“SAAB may your Griffin fly forever”
Hi M. I saw the same article in Aftonbladet. That’s actually a somewhat interesting article in many ways! Esepcially regarding that the GM Board maybe is divided in this SAAB saga.
Griffin UP!
SAAB UP!!
Viking UP!
Cheers from Norway-
-Olav-
Always on the longest road home when out there with my SAAB. Always!
Costs will depend on the newspaper. (1 page add)
How fast? matter of making the add lay-out and have the newpaper it to be published.
I’m not an American so I would like to know wich paper it should be?
Funding? Do we have funding or can we get it? Dealernetwork? any other suggestions?
Lay-out. I am using DTP programs myself, so I’ll take that part.
Swade
I have contacted Saab Club of Switzerland – the swiss market is a considerable one for Saab in Europe.
No idea if they would pick up the idea of a Saab Support Convoy on the 17th, but I’ve tried to mobilise them. Even if it’s only a small drop and way off from where decisions on Saab will be made.
Website: http://www.saabclub.ch/SAABclub_Schweiz/Home.html
I’ll keep you posted.
Mart
@ Mëllechmann:
If big Ed really wants to enter history books, he also has to consider all the bad publicity he will get if he closes SAAB (and I’m sure Swade will take care of that!)
I’ll stick to my point of view. Maybe I’m just naive but I truly believe SAAB will be sold. To whomever! With all that money on the table, every other decision wouldn’t make sense.
Griffin up!
P.S. I have to see that milk delivery car of yours!
Will you bring me 1l milk and 1 strawberry yoghurt to Diekirch tomorrow morning?
Swade,
You have done so much for the cause of saving SAAB. I am very grateful. My gut feel is this threat to shut down SAAB is negotiation tactic by GM.
In my household that will always be a place for SAAB. Now we have two.
Once SAAB is sold, I would like to see them offer stock for customers to purchase so that they would have a set of owners who are really committed.
If my gut feel is wrong, I wonder whether any of these current bidders for SAAB will be willing to start a new company with the SAAB name. Because GM does not own the SAAB name. May be we can all contribute to provide some funding to start the new company. I know I am dreaming here but that is how every thing starts.
It’s going to be an exciting couple of days (hopefully not weeks) and see what General Mismanagement comes up with.
Swade You are the best and I know many peole here tell you so. But never the less I think it can not be told to many times what you have done for this process with SAAB. If it was not for you I think SAAB had already been killed by f…ing GM.
Keep on the good work and let us all hope for a glorius result so we can enjoy more exelent SAABcars for long time to go (hopfully for ever!)
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Book or no book, you’ve *shown* Ed Whitacre and a lot of other people around the world the Spirit of SAAB with the work that you and E&G have been doing here on SaabsUnited.
Griffin UP!!
Well put Swade. As always.
Even though I remain optimistic, I cant help but to feel a bit sentimental right now.
Guys, Ive been a daily visitor here for about a year now. On most days I visit more than 10 times (at least since i got my HTC Android) and during those visits I press the refresh button all the time. Your comments have made me think, laugh, go through the roof, dispair and hope.
Ive probably never met anyone of you but I still feel that we are connected and that we all understand eachother.
I know, for instance, that all of you take one last look at your car after you locked it and started walking.
I know that you did not need to get information and specifications from the Saabsalesguy when you bought your car. You already knew them.
I also know that you feel more proud of your car than a BMW, Merc or Audi owner ever would.
Whatever happens in the next couple of days, Saabs will always run on our roads and the Saab spirit will never die. Dont forget that my friends.
Now, I will get a beer and try to decide what colour to order my 2011 Saab 95 SC in.
I have either leased or bought 13 Saabs since 1999 and presently own four.
I buy them because they are safe and one saved my daughter’s life.
They are the best all around car that I know. Safety, performance, (especially bad weather safety and performance), utility, economy, value, and durability. No other car is a better all around car.
All the best, CJ !
Please promise us you’ll consider (if you win) hiring Swade as Saab’s official corporate PR blogger
Imagine his entries titled:
“Day 1 – my morning in Trollhattan”
“Day 30 – my new office in the Saab USA HQ in Wilson, Wyoming”
“I know, for instance, that all of you take one last look at your car after you locked it and started walking.”
I thought I was the only one who did that!
Since 1983 we have been a Saab dealer in the US. We also sell Chevrolet, Hummer, Cadillac, Mazda and Volvo. Chevrolet was first in 1969, Chrysler and Saab in 1983, Mazda and Volvo in 2006, and Cadillac in 2008. I have a wife and two children. My partner has a wife and six children. They can drive whatever we sell. Together we have ten Saabs. That does not include our extended families and our friends. When we lost Chrysler this past June it was sad but it was just business. We made a lot of money being an original Hummer dealer and we will miss the gross profit. Our customers are sad or will be sad if they can not continue to do business with us. But losing Saab hurts by far the most. Our children all learned to drive in a Saab. When my daughter exchanged cars with me for service, she could not find the ignition! “Dad, what idiot would ever put the ingition behind the steering wheel?”. Obviously I left her an inferior car to use that day. If only we had sold more Saabs over the years. People who drive a Saab do tend to buy another. GM messed with Saab, a new owner can bring back the Saab Company we all fell in love with. I look forward to a good conclusion to this sad story.
Thanks Swade for another fabulouse piece!
Now there is nothing more to do but wait. I think SAAB will be sold. There will be a big fiest on the 17th.
@ CJ and all: “Don´t give up and don´t look back” Cowboy strategi.
Cowboy UP everybody!
kalle, thank you for putting a smile into my face. Back in 1998 as I bought my first SAAB the salesguy prepared himself to tell me about the car options, and the whole thing, and before he opened his mouth I told him which model I wanted which extras, and what rims, I miss my 9-3, and hope my RED EDNA will be a good replacement for it after 5 SAAB-less years.
Great post Swade! And thanks CJ for your direct considerate connection to your fellow fans.
Everyone seems to have their own positive story and relationship to the company.
I once was marooned on Saab in Trollhättan more or less against my will, I hated it, I wanted out. But with time something happened. I learned what Saab was all about, how people helped each other and how everyone from the bottom up to top management combined their efforts. Things sometimes got bad but the collective force of everyone made us pull through. There was never any problem talking to anyone about anything. No real politics as there is in many other companies, internally Saab is a marvel of frankness in that sense even if you sometimes don’t see it when you’re in the thick of things.
With time I learned to love it.
.. and then I left with sadness.
You usually only remember the good things when you reminiscence but they are true and I very much hope that I one day once again can go back and give something back, once again help them be winners as they’ve helped me.
That Saab bug is very much real and I’d love to help it spread far outside its natural habitat.
CJ,
That’s what is so frustrating about the whole situation.
If SAAB had no suitors than I would accept the outcome of a wind down.
You say that all requirements have been met and they are still not commenting on the sale. What is the deal? GM is toying with many peoples livelihoods, not to mention their lives. People are nervous. Their jobs and businesses are suffering.
GM – Please put us out of our misery one way or the other. SELL SAAB. Stop toying with us!
I just want to add that even if GM _do_ ship those tools to China on Thursday, that is certainly no reason for the bidders to stop negotiating for a sale, it’s just GM taking the risk to have to spend some extra US tax money on shipping first from Germany to China and then back from China to Trollhättan. Similarly, anything later shipped from Trollhättn to China can be shipped back. If GM is in such a hurry to do the shipping before finishing the negotiations and deciding the final destination of the shipped goods, then that’s purely GM’s problem, right?
okay, for me my saab story began in my parents Saab 900 I was 7 years old.
I’ve never been able to drive another car and have the same driving pleasure as I have in my saab.
and I will always drive a saab as long as you can get hold of cars, or parts.
thanks for everything Swaden And you all saab fans out there
And I believe in a bright future for Saab, although dat I am very nervous right now.
GRIFFIN UP guys we will make it no other brand in the world has so much support from their fans as saab.
“I thought I was the only one who did that!”
I was thinking I was the only one or still one of the few, doing thinking and feeling so many things about SAAB, before finding SU last december…
How I’m glad I was so wrong!
GO bidders!
Griffin UP!
You are so right Kalle!
An Audi or Merc owner would probably never understand how I can spend 15 minutes in the garage, just for looking and admiring the beutiful lines of my classic 900 convertible.
Saabken,
you don’t really want this, do you?
Swade has to stay independent from SAAB, so that we get as informed via Djup Strupe as we have been getting all the time.
I think it is up to us to support Swade, so he can continue with his precious and accurate work.
So eloquently written, Swade, and this is precisely the thing that needs to appear in the mass media for the US public to consume. I’ve only recently become a Saab owner; but, I’ve been an admirer since the 1970′s, when I used to see advertisements for the quirky looking cars and see them on the road looking so cool.
You, Steven, have identified with each and every one of our feelings toward this company, but therein lies the problem–you’re singing to the choir! You would be hard-pressed to find anyone here (or any other Saab website) that would disagree with your reflection on this company and the sitation at hand.
What we, as Saab enthusiasts who care enought to do anything to save this company, need to do to make that reality is quickly spread the work to the “non-believers” or those who know nothing about what could potentially happen and the devastating affects it will have!
Below is a post that I’ve previously made about the way the judge felt about the same situation with GM:
“Here the consequences, by reason of the loss of liquidity and the loss of consumer confidence,
would be disastrous. We’re talking about the death of a company. Last, while hardly least, we must consider the public interest…it involves the
interests of thousands of employees; an untold number of retirees; 3,000 dealers and 11,500 suppliers. If employees lose their paychecks or their healthcare benefits, they will suffer great hardship. And states and municipalities would lose the tax revenues, and the Government would be paying out more in unemployment insurance and other hardship benefits…with the death of the company on the line, the damage to the public interest would be irreparable. It would be incalculable.” — Judge Gerber, US Bankruptcy Judge
Could this have been written about Saab Automobile AB??? No! It was actually written about General Motors in June 2009 about why the company should be made to survive no matter what. So I ask all of you…couldn’t the same exact argument now be made for Saab??? Think about it. GM should pay close attention to these arguments when they decide to sell Saab and give it the same opportunity that it received in June, 2009!
Hi Richard,
I think I know you.
I used to do TV commercials for you guys when I worked for Potratz.
Anyway I hope you guys keep selling Saabs with those sailboats stuck to the back and I hope your daughter is doing well. Tell her Lonnie says hi.
If you are who I think you are anyway
GM is saying that they are not planning to shipe the tools to China;
http://svt.se/2.22620/1.1841089/gm_inga_verktyg_till_kina_nu?lid=senasteNytt_1765014&lpos=rubrik_1841089
Ok guys, wich American newpapers do we know?
A have taken the freedom to send the above stated additorial ‘Why Saab’s sale or closure matters so much to me” by Swade to edditors from the New-York Times, Detroit News and the Washington Post. If everyone of us puts a little effort, we should be able to have it given some attention in the news.
I think the pice is very well written and can go out to more outside of SU.
Lets try our very best!
lets hope the best for Saab
Why does it have to be ad? Swade should submit a piece as an editorial. They’re free, right?
Haha, I did that just some hours ago!
But it was enough to get the virus!
Richard, the story with your daughter is priceless!
I have had a lot of SAAB-memories since the first time i drove a SAAB, I was about three years old, and I was playing in my dad´s SAAB 99 MY77 and probably I shifted the manual gear into neutral and of the car went down the street. My father has told me that our neighbours saw the car rolling backwards, only some meters, but enough to end up in the middle of our little road.
Regardless of how this turns out, this blog has been the only place for comfort and true facts, to me, and I guess to the people who make their living at the company, and that is truly admireble.
Cowboy up!
Swade,
Once again you have managed to put into words what so many of us feel deep in our gut. The fact that GM holds all the cards scares the hell out of me. They have not been able to do anything right for at least the past 25 years so why should this be any different?
I’m hoping that the so called “new GM” prevails and SAAB is sold, hopefully to CJ, and GM’s actions of the past few weeks have just been a ploy to extract the most out of SAAB they can.
If Whitacre does “wind down” SAAB, can we get a picture of you flipping him off like you do with every Hummer you see? Actually, can somebody photoshop that now?
Cowboy UP
Swade UP
Griffin UP
SAAB Automobile AB UP
Swade,
Great piece.
I am going to do my best to get this article out to news agencies..
Please try to get it out as well.. I know you are busy but I’m sure you have more connections.. Great piece. i also think the piece by MarcLev is outstanding point. Needs to get out there.
Thanks guys.
In love Saab and I dont see why there no room for the brand in the market.
I wonder why subaru (the most comparable brand) is in no trouble and saab is?
Maybe in the future they should built something more near the volvo c 30 and the aero X.
When are we supposed to hear something else?
As always, one piece of good news from GM has some kind of bad news attached to.
Mr Weinmann from GMEurope says they will not send tooling for the NG9-5 to china, but he also say at NAIAS they want to concentrate on their 4 brands, it sounds like, let us talk about SAAB after the NAIAS, we now have more important things to do.
Excellent work, Johan!!!!! Way to go, my man!!! How about the Wall Street Journal…there’s an economist reporter named Stephen Moore, who appears on Fox’s Greta Van Susteren show amongst others, that would be interested in this potential waste of taxpayer money (he is always talking about how our tax money is being squandered).
Super quick google translate, needs som brushing:
“GM: No tools to China now
General Motors denies that tool and production equipment for the new Saab 9-5 will be sent to China for production of Buick cars.
Saab
-The data are inaccurate. I have spoken to those responsible for Saab project and the information is not true. There must be a little misunderstanding. Perhaps you confused it with the tools of the old 9-5 has been sold to Chinese Beijing Auto, said Stefan Weinmann, a spokesman for GM Europe, which is now in Detroit for the International Motor Show.
He claims that GM is still evaluating the various bids that have come in to Saab Automobile and that the door is not closed on the sale of the company.
“We are not finished with the analysis of the bids and I can not give any timetable for when we can talk about results,” he told TT in Detroit.
While continuing the plan to phase out Saab.
When the GM board and is likely to determine Saab’s ultimate fate to Stefan Weinmann not tell. He says not matter if the board is divided.
Individual views of board-I can not enter.
During the motor show GM is focused exclusively on the brands being promoted in the following reconstruction: Buick, GMC, Chevrolet and Cadillac.”
Well, to me it´s very comforting to hear GM deny this, and I did not expect them to show of SAAB now. If the news are according to my hopes, SAAB will steal the show anyway!
Breaking news guys! Seems to be some kind of misunderstanding regarding the tools for the New Saab 9-5 being shipped to China.
This according to the swedish news program “Rapport” The following can be read at their website
http://svt.se/2.22620/1.1841089/gm_inga_verktyg_till_kina_nu
I will paste the translation below, dont know how to link directly to it.
General Motors denies that tool and production equipment for the new Saab 9-5 will be sent to China for production of Buick cars.
The information is incorrect. I have spoken to those responsible for Saab project and the information is not true. There must be a little misunderstanding. Perhaps you confused it with the tools of the old 9-5 has been sold to Chinese Beijing Auto, said Stefan Weinmann, a spokesman for GM Europe, which is now in Detroit for the International Motor Show.
He claims that GM is still evaluating the various bids that have come in to Saab Automobile and that the door is not closed on the sale of the company.
“We are not finished with the analysis of the bids and I can not give any timetable for when we can talk about results,” he told TT in Detroit.
While continuing the plan to phase out Saab.
When the GM board and is likely to determine Saab’s ultimate fate to Stefan Weinmann not tell. He says not matter if the board is divided.
Individual views of board-I can not enter.
During the motor show GM is focused exclusively on the brands being promoted in the following reconstruction: Buick, GMC, Chevrolet and Cadillac.
Ok thanks Mike, Wall Street Journal will also receive the piece by Swade.
But anybody who feels attracted to the idear should do the same I think.
Use any imagination to get it in the newspapers asap!
Good news
He claims that GM is still evaluating the various bids that have come in to Saab Automobile and that the door is not closed on the sale of the company.
FUGM!!! Just friggin’ sell Saab and earn some social respect assholes
Agreed.
Ed Whitacre, Jr may be biased and be getting a biased report from his subordinates, but he can make his own independent decisions in a split second. Someone give him a chance to make the right decision; SELL SAAB.
You want to be face to face with him if you can, and you want to say, “We can make this work.”
If he believes you and has not already pre-decided to liquidate Saab, he will sell Saab.
Just stay on the horse!
Cowboy Up.
I would recommend the Washington Post or Detroit News, given the target audience, but the most influential is likely the New York Times.
However, I *still* believe this ALL comes down to what the Swedish government tells GM in their upcoming meeting. If the loans are 100% guaranteed, then it’s a sale to someone… If there is the same hedging, if/well/maybe-ing, and indecisiveness we’ve seen from Sweden to date, then no bidders win and Saab is done.
If we’ve all maybe made a mistake in this process it is perhaps that we focused too much on Washington and not enough on Sweden.
They hold the key now…
This is great news! … if GM Europe really do know everything that goes in the US-HQ, that is. But great news, none the less. Gives me more hope back
*håller tummarna ännu hårdare*
There isn’t a single word in the whole interview that would make us believe that the tooling is ever going to China (only for OG 9-5), so why the “Now” in the headline?
Peter, maybe they don’t know everything, but I would say they know if GMEurope has to send something rather big to china by the end of next week or not.
I think Sweden may have some influence on the decision regarding Saab’s future, but the ultimate decision absolutely will be made in Detroit by New GM’s board! The focus MUST necessarily be on how their decision will be perceived by the American people, who not only own New GM, but will also be future customers!!! If the US Public is not happy with what New GM decides to do with Saab, among other things, they will refrain from buying GM cars! That has to factor in to this equation somehow…it’s known in economic terms as “Badwill” or the opposite of “Goodwill.” Think of it like this, if you were selling a car and the car had really low miles, it would be worth more than if it had really high miles. A company is worth more if it has Goodwill and worth much less if it has Badwill. GM should be mindful of this potential backlash should their decision piss-off enough people…especially in their markets. Folks losing jobs all over the place would make GM’s decision not only bad, but disastrous!!!! And, this would have a negative consequence on future sales and company value!!!
Because it gives drama to the news, because it sells, because journalism is not about news but abut selling news.
IMHO
As a suggestion to the Swedish Government.
If GM wants to liquidate Saab, obstruct them.
You guys slowed down K’egg. How about slowing down GM. I suggest you go read the history of say the hundred years war first. I am talking really slow. Read Charles Dickens Bleak House and you guys will get the idea. Some times legal stuff takes a while. Why should the Swedish be out down by the English? Anything shipped out of Sweden ought to be on a Really Slow Boat to China, if you know what I mean. On the other hand, Sweden get Saab sold before anyone can mess it up.
Just a thought.
Steven, your very personal words say everything that is to say.
After all these endless months:
This is the hour of decision for our beloved brand.
As you all know, I’ve always been one of these incurable optimists and campaigners here at SU.
Now I must confess: I’ve got my doubts.
There were innumerable background discussions with many leading insiders (marketing, distributors, dealers, media, associations, …).
Last, there was absolutely no one who would trust GM. Zero. (Me too.)
Of all companys in the automotive world – it had to be them. Fateful.
It’s a shame, knowing what kind of ignorant guys will make this existential decision.
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Their own words: “General Motors believes that the closure of Saab must begin, as the company continues to make losses. GM also points out that neither the Saab’s CEO Jan Ake Jonsson and the company’s directors are permitted to thwart the liquidation.”
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I would never expect from them that they are Saab enthusiasts. But unfortunately they are not even far-sighted, good businessmen and managers.
They have exactly the short-sighted way of thinking, by which companies like Apple, Porsche, Puma, Aston Martin already wouldn’t exist any longer.
They are short-sighted talkers who think themselves being cool business people. No visions. Zero brillant ideas. Only stupid clichés.
Assembling the puzzle now, all available informations, … it’s on the edge of a knife.
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But … a small miracle is still possible.
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And if we have to face the worst case scenario,
there still would be hope.
Call it “PLAN B”.
This would be some kind of small
“New Saab” manufactury …
maybe within five years …
Now article about the future of Saab, the Swedish newspaper Aftonblad.
translation by googel translator
wait for a response from GM!
The decision is already taken.
Despite the new bids.
GM would simply not sell, the engineers at Saab fear.
- But GM’s board is divided, “says Hakan Danielsson.
The union representatives convened Sunday was marked by meetings to catch a future that looks increasingly dark.
Concern is compounded
Saturday’s news that GM is preparing to move the tool to Saab’s new model 9-5 to China in order to be used in a new Buick model, was for the unions yet another sign that the new bidders at Saab have nothing to download .
Information on the tools to be shipped from Germany Rüsselsheim already on Friday, then gave additional water on unions oroskvarn.
- That this should happen, we have not been confirmed, but it is true, it is very worrying because it would mean that this is planned for some time. It is not just pressing a button and send the equipment.
- How credible is you do when you say that you look at the different bids, wondering Hakan Danielsson.
Fate sealed
Most of what is needed for a series of new 9-5: an already exist in Trollhättan and the plant has at least two occasions been rebuilt to withstand it.
But it is in Rüsselsheim which the body the tools available to drive the plates. There are built body on which it then sent to Trollhättan.
Hakan Danielsson, when hope of a disagreement GM board.
Hour after hour sat Scholars Association / Swedish engineers, union and metal, and reasoned that if GM’s mysterious agenda, while the Saab staff were preparing for a new start of production, which, after all, drawn in once again on Monday morning.
- We must find a way to move forward, because we do not intend to give up, “says Hakan Danielsson, president of the engineers, to TT.
Integrity required
Which road is passable now he has no idea, but says that in all cases expects GM to “act with the integrity that they claim to have”.
GM’s difficult to interpret strategy, to both apply for a liquidator, and argue that this bid is to be assessed correctly, has irritated many.
Hakan Danielsson believe is that GM’s line is clear for a long time:
- It would simply not sell the company
- I think it is fragmented, there are a few of those who simply do not want to sell the company and operates the line.
Whether GM’s board has an impending meeting is unclear, but it’s the next few days as Saab’s fate will eventually be sealed.
Delegation from the Swedish government had no scheduled meetings with GM management in Detroit on Sunday, according to Håkan Lind, press officer at the Ministry of Industry.
- I can not say the exact times of when meetings will take place. But it is early in the week, “he said.
Hoping for the best. Cowboy Up!
If GM really doesn’t want to sell Saab, why would they state that a sale is still possible? Why would they use so much time for considering bids? What can they gain from this? If they had already made up their mind, wouldn’t they have ended the process straight away?
I think GM:s strange way of dealing with this actually means there is hope. The comments from VM and CJ are also encouraging.
Griffin Up!
What about a anti-Nobel-Price for GM?
Keep the faith ! SAAB is not owned by GM. If they decide to kill Saab Auto AB, there will allways be someone who ‘ll believe in a strong brand and bring it back to life,…, even if it takes 5 years. So plan B is still an option.
Thanks Ralf for your comments and your courage !
Thanks Steven for all you’ve done for us and S.A.A.B.
Swade,
exact translation of my Saab feeling for 20 years now.
Will send it to all relevant newspapers here in Belgium, (Brussels)
Griffin up!
Wim.
Thanks Steven! Great work!
Rumors on http://www.ttela.se (local media site for Trollättan) say that production tools of the new 9-5 have already been transported to China for a new Buick (a Buick 9-5?).
I am very careful in believing this. Saab dealers in The Netherlands spread newsletters saying that GM is willing to sell and Ecclestone and Spyker have the best chance.
In case you want to translate articels on http://www.ttela.se you can use Google translator.
Ladies & gents…keep you Saabs rolling
really cool words! Where are you from… funny your name (look at mine)
Saab 95 in grey
Saab up!!!
FUGM
What can they gain from all this? The illusion that they’re putting forth a good faith effort to sell Saab, as they agreed to do when they made all the US dealers sign those waivers or face termination.
Have you seen that GM is dening the rumours of the NG9-5 being prepared for shipping to China?
http://svt.se/2.22620/1.1841089/gm_inga_verktyg_till_kina_nu
(Published an hour ago)
GM: No new Saab tools to China
General Motors denies
that production of the
new Saab 9-5 model should be sent to
China for the production of Buick cars.
“I have spoken to those responsible for
Saab project and information
is not true, “said Stefan Weinmann,
spokesman for GM Europe, on Sunday
to TT’s correspondent in Detroit.
Weinmann claims that GM still evaluating
the various bids at Saab Automobile and
that the door is not closed for a
sales. “I can not give any
timetable for when we can talk about
results, “said GM Europe spokesman.
Yes, but only a complete fool would believe that, are there actually people that naive out there?
Thanks, Wade, for the good work!
Off-topic, but anyway:
The first SAAB I got to know was an orange 96. Some of my first memories is about this car; the smells from a wet dog in the back seat, and the sounds of the V4-engine. The second was a green 99. The car always started at once, even in minus 20 degrees C, with the engine compartment fully packed with ice and snow, after a week at a parking lot in the norwegian mountains in late february. It felt good to drive away from the blizzard, watching the BMW- and Merc-owners getting their cars towed by the local rescue service. The third was a red 90. We had it for 6 months – it was soon to be replaced by the 900. The entire family, including a 135 pound New Foundland dog, drove away for holidays in that car, and it was still comfortable. The fifth was a green-grey 900i, by far the best car of all the SAABs we had. The whistle-sound from the heater knobs still makes me happy. I guess SAAB could have refined that classic 900 just like Porsche refines its 911. Why change a winning concept?
The fifth was a NG900. Great car, classic looks and a smooth ride. But I prefer the classic 900. Nr seven – the 9-5 wagon Turbo. Great ride, moore comfortable than any other car (yes, any).
I now drive the black 900 Talladega again. I just do not want to replace it. In fact, when it comes to wehicles, I do not have any alternatives. Mercs, Audis, Beemers – no thank you!
Hey guys, now Saab is even damaged by Lamborghini, not only GM…lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1242098/The-moment-140-000-Lamborghini-parked-UNDER-car.html
It is a 95, isn’t it?
Spot on 100% Saab!
The Swedish Gov’t shouldn’t be obsequious –’milquetoast’ — in it’s response to any GM Ultimatum.
With a heavy heart, I’m reminded too of the famous scene from Oliver Twist:
‘For MORE!’ said Mr. Limbkins. ‘Compose yourself, Bumble, and answer me distinctly. Do I understand that he asked for more, after he had eaten the supper allotted by the dietary?’
‘He did, sir,’ replied Bumble.
‘That boy will be hung,’ said the gentleman in the white waistcoat. ‘I know that boy will be hung.’
swedish national television news program “Rapport” just told at swedish time 19:35 today.
Contrary to rumours, GM has NOT decided that NG 9-5 tooling will be moved to China on January the 15th.
This according to a GM spokesperson to the “Rapport” news channel.
http://www.svt.se/rapport
/Perry
hello troll I agreed with your plan B and do not forget what I said earlier today
no band in the world have so much fans as saab.
we can make the diffrence.
Griffin UP saab will survive.
alexandros, they are calling that poor 9-5 wagon, a “4×4 two ton, 9-7x” haha. people need to learn which car is which.
The news that tooling will not be moved to China.
http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22620&a=1841089
General Motors denies that tool and production equipment for the new Saab 9-5 will be sent to China for production of Buick cars.
-The data are inaccurate. I have spoken to those responsible for Saab project and the information is not true. There must be a little misunderstanding. Perhaps you confused it with the tools of the old 9-5 has been sold to Chinese Beijing Auto, said Stefan Weinmann, a spokesman for GM Europe, which is now in Detroit for the International Motor Show.
He claims that GM is still evaluating the various bids that have come in to Saab Automobile and that the door is not closed on the sale of the company.
“We are not finished with the analysis of the bids and I can not give any timetable for when we can talk about results,” he told TT in Detroit.
While continuing the plan to phase out Saab.
When the GM board and is likely to determine Saab’s ultimate fate to Stefan Weinmann not tell. He says not matter if the board is divided.
Individual views of board-I can not enter.
During the motor show GM is focused exclusively on the brands being promoted in the following reconstruction: Buick, GMC, Chevrolet and Cadillac.
Thanks I. Im from Sweden and I drive a grey 93 now, so Im thinking red or white
hahah 97 x… good one. That shows how much journalists know Saab.
Below is the individual that transferred all of the assets from the Old GM to the New GM so that the company can survive. The intentions of transferring those assets were so that New GM could continue building four brands: Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac & GMC; and dispose of Hummer, Saturn and Saab, in the form of a sale.
I believe it would be in the best interest of all creditors that Saab be sold (as should Hummer and Saturn) in order to maximize the recovery for the creditors. Perhaps the Honorable Judge Gerber should be aware of the fact that the New GM, by possibly closing down Saab, would actually cause further losses for those creditors because rather than realizing a gain from a sale, it would expend monies to close factories. The Judge previously wrote a decision that reflects on the detrimental effects of closing factories and causing hardship to individuals, oompanies and governments…yet, that would be precisely the affect of closing Saab. I am going to write this Judge and tell him that I believe it was a mistake to transfer Saab to New GM if they intend to shut it down. What’s more, if this remains the intention of New GM, then I would implore the Judge to do a “Claw-Back” and declare that Saab was too valuable to transfer back in June and should be sold as a going concern to pay creditors still holding the bag for GM’s mismanagement over the years. The address is below…
Judge Robert E. Gerber
Court
One Bowling Green
New York, NY 10004-1408
Chambers: (212) 668-5660
Courtroom: 621
Wall Street Journal just got Swades “Why Saab’s sale or closure matters so much to me” Also they should publish this to my opinion
Possible pressure point on GM?
“During the motor show GM is focused exclusively on the brands being promoted in the following reconstruction: Buick, GMC, Chevrolet and Cadillac.”
How about emailing any automotive journalist who are at the motor show and asking questions about SAAB, if we can get them to ask more about SAAB it might move more of the news toward what are you going to do with it and away from GM’s new models.
It’s worth a try , I’m going to go look for a list of who is going to be there.
Wall Street Journal just got Swades “Why Saab’s sale or closure matters so much to me” Also they should publish this to my opinion
Thank Johan, as I said…you are the man!!! I appreciate your efforts to get the word to the general public. Trust me on this, this matter will be decided in the court of public opinion more than anything else!!!
Funny
sorry for spaming.
p.s. meet the name a lot in sweden does it mean something? (last question)
I am a total freak of white Saabs. Love them.
I have a white convertible
the next 48 hours are NOT going to be easy for us.
Saab up!!!!
FUGM big time
Ok I’ll start with the cheesy links to songs….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOp4NAq6EHI
What we are all hoping for…….
Hello Swade,
You describe saab-feeling so good.
At 1970-1980 Century, we had a good downhill skier i Sweden named Ingemar Stenmark.
Once when he was interviewed by a reporter about his skiing, he replied “it is not easy to explain to someone who does not understand”.
That is exactly the same with our sense of SAAB.
I remember drooling over the first 99 turbo in the late 70s.
10 years later I bought my first 99 Turbo, right now I own 3 different Saab turbo.
I really hope that one of the bidders can complete the deal.
I take the opportunity to promote the saab-support rally the 17:th in Trollhättan.
http://forum.saabturboclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=272706
SAAB UP
Spyker UP
Merbanco UP
Genii UP
Samuelsson/Nygren UP
FUGM
Lost for words.. Well written Swade.
Seeing as i am a student and cant afford a new SAAB right now and was planning to buy one as soon as i got out of college. I really hope this sale goes through..
I never realized how the OG9-3 looks like Mauer’s concepts when it has the turn signal lights painted in body color…
A very nice video what it is all about
Like the swedish version more, even if I just get a few words
http://www.youtube.com/user/SaabCarsOfficial#p/u/21/crn33G4eUdo
http://www.youtube.com/user/SaabCarsOfficial#p/u/22/7ImE0B4vo3c
SAAB 4 EVER!
Well said, Swade. Nothing more to add. Let us all hope for the best.
If Saab Automobile AB could send a message in a song to GM, it would probably have the words of its own previous advertisement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piDgTFaafNM
If Saab Automobile AB could send a message in a song to GM, it would probably have the words of its own previous advertisement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piDgTFaafNM
Way back on the 5th January 1975 I began an apprenticeship as a panel beater (accident repairer) in a small Saab dealership here in Cardiff UK at the tender age of 16. Even at that early age I was quickly infected by the SAAB bug. Having spent the next 11 years lovingly repairing these fabulous cars, getting to learn the ingenious flair for innovation and safety construction I quickly became a passionate Saab fan! We must remember how many “firsts” Saab had….ie the first to build in side impact beams, impact absorbing bumpers, heated seats headlamp wash wipe, turbocharging technology etc the list is endless and now all features that are taken for granted by manufacturers the world over. If any of you have never seen the book Form and Function try to get a copy.I have continued to work in Saab dealerships ever since and have been selling them for the last 22 years. A career span of 35 years with Saab. A true labour of love, and it is for this reason and passion that I truly believe that should the Saab engineers be fortunate enough to be released from the shackles of GM they can be set free to express their tremendous flair and innovation to build the cars we all know they can build and once again lead the automotive world with exciting new designs and innovation. Next week will either see a bereavement or a birth…..I so hope we see a new and exciting era for our beloved Saab.
I haven’t really commented much, but I’ve been reading SU daily for a year, ever since SAAB’s seemed in jeopardy. SAABs have been my favorite cars ever since seeing my first one up close a few years ago. This SU post really touched me. SAAB has a special and integral place to every enthusiast, which could be the only explanation for every effort, large or small, that has been put forward.
Thank you, Swade, for all of the time, effort, and everything else that you’ve put into this blog. Reading SU has always been a comfort in these dark days, when it would otherwise seem that SAAB has not a shred of hope. SAAB would definitely be in a far more stark position if it not for people like you.
Well said swade.
Griffin up!!
/Tony
Saab 2-stroke singing PLAY IT LOUD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXVRdSbKDT8
I just found this in a humorous text (regarding the upcoming Formula 1 season) at a motorsport site (www.planet-f1.com):
“Bernie’s New Motor(s)
It’s nice to see that even though the car manufacturers are backing out of F1 – F1 isn’t backing out of the car manufacturers. It was revealed this week that Bernie Ecclestone is part of a bid to take over Saab. The Swedish luxury car manufacturer is being disposed of by the ailing General Motors. Bernie’s fellow investors have found themselves up against Dutch car firm Spyker – the company that flirted with the idea that they could run an F1 team. How they think they could run Saab, when they couldn’t maintain the former Jordan team, is anyone’s guess. ”
Bernie involvement is making waves.
I like the part about the Swedish luxury car manufacturer being disposed of by the ailing General Motors.
But I am also afraid that this ailing part is part of the problem. How much money does GM have. And how much panic?
And we now know more about Spyker and F1. But I still liked the orange team. If VM gets to buy Saab, I hope he will make sure that dutch orange will be one of the colours you can choose from.
This week is going to be difficult. The F5 key is going to work overtime.
I have loved Saabs as long as I can remember. My parents had a candy-beige 93 from 1959 when I was a kid and since then I’ve been bitten…
Since growing up I have owned several two-strokers and V4:s, a 900i and a 9000Cd2.3. And loved them all. I still have four of them.
Since we are building a house, my economy won’t allow a new Saab, but i does allow me to speculate.
And to crave another 95 V4, They are great!
Thank you, Steve
Saab Up!
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article6406279.ab
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He seems to be contradicting himself. In one sentence the car is too big. In the next he berates it for being too low for tall people in the back seat. So it isn’t too big? Is it really any lower in the back seat compared to Saab’s other current offerings?
With most cars, the rule of thumb is: Stick the tall people in the front seat(s). At least that is how my family deals with this. I see no reason why the 9-5 was expected to be much different in this regard.
A nice sloping shape at the back (like the 92…) pretty much implies that back seat passengers remove their hats. The new 9-5 is not a car to drive if you enjoy wearing hats inside. What is the point of making 9-5 the size of a 9-3? Should they have discontinued the 9-5 line completely?
So which is it? Is it too big? Or too small? For me it looks just exactly right. I’ll buy one.
Anyway, hopefully svt.se is correct and the new body tools are not currently about to be shipped to China.
I think he gets it all wrong. He wants the car to be built and sold in China – as a Saab. The Chinese like big cars, according to mr. Collin, but are in general quite short and therefor won’t mind the fact that it is a bit low in the back seat.
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2FNyheter%2F1.1839806%2Fgm-inga-verktyg-skickas-till-kina&sl=sv&tl=en
just a funny saab picture to lighten up our spirits
http://jalopnik.com/5444653/lamborghini-gallardo-tangles-with-many-parked-cars-in-las-laurel-canyon-much-bondo-needed
I don’t think Robert said he wanted the NG 9-5 to carry the Saab badge in case it got produced in China? His point seem to be that the 9-5 is not really a Saab anymore and that Saab should spend time on coming up with a more ‘proper’ Saab.
Personally I think the NG 9-5 looks very nice on pictures. The 9000 was big and a bit un-Saab like when it arrived, but I loved that car to bits when I was a kid (my dad bought a 9000i in ’85 or so).
My dad and ivo seem to agree that the 9000 was a better winter car than the first generation 9-5. I would be thrilled to bits if someone would do a comparison of the three and see how they drive in the winter. My dad’s only complaint about the 9000 was that it doesn’t climb trees very well. He got stuck after backing over a tree stump that was hidden by the snow. That was the only time he got tricked by snow in his 9000, but he has not been so lucky with his ’98 9-5.
IMO, as a car journalist, Robert Collins should focus on such questions, rather than discuss the length of his tall friends that he plans to have seated in the rear seat of his car. I frankly could care less about 2m tall passengers. (I apologize to you tall fellas — rest assured I would let you guys ride up front with the grownups if you’re ever in my car)
This may be already posted but Mark Reuss- head of GM North American Operations has a Facebook page. This guy is one of the top 3-4 guys at GM and despite his title he is undoubtedly in-on the decisions at GM related to Saab. A polite and courteous nudge would not fall on deaf ears.
Swade, EnG… what do you think?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1146205107&ref=search&sid=651781583.1924252119..1
Well I just hit the SEND button on a “letter to the editor” of the Hartford Courant regarding GM’s reluctance to sell Saab. It’s REALLY hard fitting all the important stuff into 200 words!
Sometimes in your professional life, you get punished if you do your job too good… Saab may just have excelled themselves a bit too much with the 9-5, as it could be so good that GM won’t let it go…
Robert Collin has always been a Volvolover.
Yes, maybe I missunderstood the article. I find Collin’s idea stupid and unrealistic though, as both CJ and VM have said that the 9-5 must be included in the sale if the business plan should have a chance to succeed.
The swedish motor-journalists are all utterly bad, but Collin, he is in a league of his own, he is crazy, the further from reality the better. He proves this perfect today by writing that SAAB is saved if GM ships the NG 9-5 to China. A child would understand that without that car SAAB as we know it is finished.
The part about the headroom while entering and exiting the back-seat was something he hooked up on when seeing the car in Frankfurt, he had to write down the car for something, and apparently it was so good that he couldn´t find anything else but the sloping of the roof.
We’ll see how much of a Ovlov-lover he is when all Volvo’s are built in China.
SAAB Up!
Griffin Up!
GM, please sell SAAB. Thanks.
Henrik, that is a tad harsh my friend, no? For many, the 900 is the symbol of everything Saab. Saab returning to their roots could indeed entail producing smaller and more energy efficient cars. Robert’s idea/proposition is not without some root in our community.
Personally I do not need a big car, but as a “prylbög” (testing the vocabulary of the language of my new country) I look forward to hyperstrut suspension, a HUD and possibly XWD. And apparently it is a really smooth drive, which I think I will enjoy immensely for my 5000km trips to visit my wife’s family. I plan on driving, and a lot of it.
Saab need a new model. Big or small, they need one. And I think Robert missed this crucial point completely.
For better or worse, the giant 9-5 has Saab DNA cursing through its veins. And we must have our precious.
Interesting that Robert did not mention the 9-4x at all this time.
Should Saab die, Saab owners could say the following to Volvo owners:
“Better Dead than Red!”
Zippy, the fat lady seems to be missing in the Volvo deal as well: http://svt.se/2.22620/1.1841053/kina_tvekar_om_geelys_volvo-kop
BTW: Could anyone point me towards any good car reviews? Ones that actually test the cars in snow and stuff? I love Top Gear for the pure entertainment factor, but car reviews they do poorly, if at all. (Driving a Range Rover through South America was insanely funny, but hardly says anything about what that car can do for me)
Please stop the misunderstanding.
There was a clear posting about this above:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressen.se%2FNyheter%2F1.1839806%2Fgm-inga-verktyg-skickas-till-kina&sl=sv&tl=en
PLEASE READ IT BEFORE WRITING MORE NONSENSE!
I think my comment might have been messed up somehow because it didn’t go through a couple hours ago, so I’ll try again (especially because I made a youtube account just for it lol).
Hopefully they can remember how it feels to be on the outside of decision making and always seek to include the greater Saab community when looking for input into how the company should begin its Renaissance. That said, we all need to pray that outcome is what awaits us this week. However this goes, you both are heroes to us all.
This piece absolutely needs to be published in at least one major news outlet in the US by tomorrow. Let’s all lobby the prospective editorial boards at:
the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/ref/membercenter/help/opedsubmit.html
Usa Today: letters@usatoday.com
Detroit Freep: http://www.freep.com/article/99999999/opinion04/50926009
Detroit News: letters@detnews.com
etc. as hard as possible- and coordinate if we can. Brett, nice work getting it into 200 words, can you copy paste it back here? That’s impressive
It’s amazing to see CJ and VM checking in on things here, and hope that both are successful in their bids
Part II…
Thanks to all the Saab outlets, Ryan at Saabhistory.com and Ken at Saabcentral.com. Steven, you really do deserve a job at Saab should you want it if this all goes forward. I can’t see why any reasonable executive would bet against Saab- if they’ve learned nothing it’s that the company is resilient, and no matter how much is flung at it, no matter how many limbs are cut off, its core is among the strongest in the industry and it not only can live but thrive on.
To amuse us and cheer us all up, I just saw a great and I think brand new Bridgestone commercial that featured our favorite lady, Dame Edna, in a hilarious spot. Bridgestone is the official tire of the NFL, and I actually am riding on some amazing Blizzaks this winter. The fact that they have put more into Saab’s US marketing this year, and chose Saab instead of BMW, Audi, or Mercedes should be commended, but also pondered on. Why, if given all these choices, choose Saabs to emphasize how great their tires are? I think it says a lot about their target buyer: sophisticated, sporting, and individualistic. Feel free to share your own thoughts, I think it has a great message and we need to highlight efforts by marketing departments that have confidence in Saab, despite GM’s idiotic short-term interests. I just uploaded it to Youtube after fortunately having it in my LiveTV buffer on eyeTV (all this while doing 3d renderings and streaming music through 5 separate airport rooms in my house, if you don’t have a Mac, get one, rock solid). Enjoy this and the previous bridgestone ad from last year’s Superbowl.
Saab UP
It’s all over.
De Amerikaanse autofabrikant General Motors (GM) bevestigde vrijdag dat hij AlixPartners heeft benoemd om de ontmanteling van Saab te begeleiden.
GM heeft de autoriteiten in Zweden daarvan op de hoogte gesteld, meldde het bedrijf.
The U.S. automaker General Motors (GM) confirmed Friday that it has appointed AlixPartners to assist in the dismantling of Saab.
GM, the authorities in Sweden shall be informed, the company reported.
Oops. that was a tad large, my bad…
I uploaded this special because I am shocked that Bridgestone is doing more for Saab than GM.
trying again:
Amen, brother. Swade, this is a piece of writing that I can fully, completely, 100% identify with. And it brings tears to my eyes. You, my friend, are a true hero. No matter how this drama ends, I’m proud of being a part of it through a few comments and having visited SU every single day since Saab’s fate was tried.
Griffin Up!
Swade Up!
Saab Up!
I defy anyone to tell that this car is note pure SAAB. It’s instantly recognisable as a SAAB even from this angle. Seen the new BMW5, MercE or new A6. Boooo-ring. This car is set to kick some German butt….
Paulus, that is old news. GM are pursuing two different solutions, and they do this in parallell. It is a bit confusing, but GM say they will consider new bids, and there are currently four or five bids for them to consider.
Check the archives here for the past two days to learn more.
Very very old news, Paulus. With all due respect have you been following what has been going on here?
OK, then let GM make Saab an ELITE brand and position it above Cadillac. I bet they won’t do that. Five hit car lines and Saab would be made.
1) 9-1, C,SS&VERT – to do
2) 9-3, SS,XWD,SC,(C),VERT -done, and then refined
3) 9-3X – done
4) 9-5, SS,XWD,SC – coming
5) 9-4X – coming
Just a thought.
It would be much easier for GM to just SELL SAAB! Let someone else make the money.
Paulus, please read previous threads or even posts of the current thread for the most up-to-date situation.
It isn’t over YET !
Cheers
Paulus is someone who just wants to make people upset here. Please use your brains when reading his nonsense!
Ain’t that a HONDA? With an impressing 2-colour painting
This commercial has been out for a while. Since the 9-5 in the ad is the same one that is sitting on my dealers lot I have gone back to look at it – in fact today. My wife however wanted the 2009 9-3 XWD in Ice Blue. If I didn’t like my laser red 2008 9-3 so well, I probably would still buy the OG 9-5 on the lot.
Saab was chosen for this ad because they are distinctive, period. You notice the car.
Bloomberg have just reported GM as saying they are not aware of plan to ship 9-5 tooling to China:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a1D2u59CoJ90
I like that comment…. very cold war-ish LOL
@Zippy…. any Vodka left?
Rune, I totally agree about the downsizing, but the new SAAB automobile will need a flagship too. If, and this is just theoretical now when GM has denied the story, they were to take it away, there is no way the Koenigsegg business-plan would work, and there´s no time for a new businessplan, and there´s no time for develloping a new car.
On the other hand I got very excited when Victor was talking about a retro-thing of the SAAB 92, aerodynamical and light-weight. Me I need a big car for the stuff for the boat/house/kids, but when the kids grow up, I´d love to have a 9-1 Biopower-turbo-hybrid as a second car.
And I wouldn´t be surprised if the next 9-3 was a hatch, regardless if Spyker, Merbanco or GENII gets it. Although I´m hearing it´s well on it´s way.
That’s so Friday. Where have you been the rest of the weekend? Refresh your browser.
Oops. that was a tad large, my bad…
I uploaded this special because I am shocked that Bridgestone is doing more for Saab than GM.
trying again:
Maybe Paulus needs a new F5 key? I can send one, if necessary.
I want that car sooooo bad. But I want the wheels like Swade and Brett have on theirs- the thick five spoke in 17 or 18″
“a little over 48 hours from now”… That would mean Tuesday, right? Any particular reason for that? Myself, I’m more inclined to believe Wednesday will be the D-Day. And weren’t there rumours of a GM board meeting on Wednesday?
“a little over 48 hours from now”… That would mean Tuesday, right? Any particular reason for that? Myself, I’m more inclined to believe Wednesday will be the D-Day. And weren’t there rumours of a GM board meeting on Wednesday?
Did anyone tell those guys at GM before they talked to Bloomberg, that Saab is on “double secret probation.” Guys, better check with the boss before talking to the press. The address on the shipping label says China.
Just a thought.
From a ttela.se article I just spend time google-transing
- We must find a way to move forward, because we do not intend to give up, “says Hakan Danielsson, president of the engineers, to TT.
Which road is passable now he has no idea, but says that in all cases expects GM to “act with the integrity that they claim to have”.
pretty powerful words, I like it.
I am in agreement with you Henrik.
However, I do see some issues with a 9-1. I’d expect it to carry on Saab’s safety legacy. I am a bit sceptical to the capability of small cars in this area. But if anyone can succeed, it will be Saab.
Sigh… If all goes according to plan, I’ll buy an used Saab this week. With this and waiting for the GM board to make their decision, I don’t see how I’d be able to sleep!
Good luck everybody.
Which GM person is Bluto?
Mr. Blutasky…… zero…point…zero
“I asked for blueberries in soy yogurt.” One of my favorite lines.
The Saab owner as hero! I like it. Sort of sums up the SaabsUnited site. – Heros
RAISE THE ROOF!
I have been away on holidays on the Murray River ( Victoria , New South Wales border for non Aussies) so unable to keep up with the latest SAAB news ……..
Did take my laptop but could not get any wireless broadband reception there !!!!!!
Happy New Year to all ………lets hope so .
It would be interesting to explore a financial analysis of selling SAAB vs Liquidation
I would like to think that GM and Ed W , have done the numbers on this !
Because it is highly likely that liquidation of SAAB ( including Swedish employee & other global obligations ) would have a significant cost to this ( which GM as a parent company may have to cough up or ? )
And not mentioning possible litigation from SAAB US dealer and alike ?
Do we have any Liquidation / experts on receivership on our blog ?
Lets all hope the next 48 hours gives the results we are looking for !
That’s a big play with rumours and misinformation.
The message is “we are GM and we are big”.
The message should be:
- The new GM is struggling again
- If GM wants to wind down Saab they should just do that, but:
o That’s US taxpayers money they waste while doing not the sale (cash in and licence fees over the next years)
o The european customers will “welcome” GM and their brands with “full respect” – maybe some others will do also.
o Don’t use the phrase “GM europe” anymore, talk about OPEL/ Vauxhall
GM: Take the best of Saab and earn some money for the next years with licence fees and lean development of Saab Powertrain AB.
I don’t say please sell – but audience and taxpayers will listen from now on..
GP.se have just published a fairly good summary of the current situation, where they among other things report that the Saab plant will restart tomorrow, with orders for 500-600 cars. They’ve also talked to Jöran Hägglund in Detroit. Here’s a snippet of that in my translation:
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What do you want to tell GM that you didn’t bring up in December?
- We want to listen to GM’s analysis of the bids that have come in, and inform them of what the government can do, e.g. with the EIB loans.
But has the government changed its attitude when it comes to the financing of Saab?
- No, but there could still be question marks, not least regarding the timing aspects.
GP.se have just published a fairly good summary of the current situation, where they among other things report that the Saab plant will restart tomorrow, with orders for 500-600 cars. They’ve also talked to J
Geez, that was less than attractive. Sorry about the bold font foulup.
Geez, that was less than attractive. Sorry about the bold font foulup.
Once again, Steven, great lines you wrote there. Your clear words, well thought and written. Everytime I drop in here (since a couple of years on regualr basis and a couple of times daily at the moment), it’s a joy and pleasure. – Information in one part, entertainment in others.
I still hope that everything comes in order. SAAB will survive. – In the worst case, in our cars. Is that really the worst case?
Cheers from Germany
Benjamin
According to “SVT text” GM Europe says there is no timeline too move the NG95 to China. There is bids too consider first.
I have always thought that GM would sell Saab. In fact I have been thinking that way for several years! When I first suggested this at TS, a lot of people thought I was pretty daft, but then the pieces in the puzzle slowly began to take shape. Whilst I think GM will sell, I have a distrust for it that has grown substantially during this whole sale process.
Personally I don’t believe the stories about the NG9-5 being re-badged or being shipped to China. None of that makes any logical sense. Why would GM/SAIC produce a car in China that’s the same size, on the same platform and sell in the same price range as it’s top selling (in China) Buick LaCrosse? I don’t think they would. I also don’t think that Opel would re-badge the car for any other market. It would be like saying that it’s (and Buicks) versions of the the Epsilon II cars are inferior. This won’t happen. However I do think the NG9-5 would be cannibalized for upgrades to the Insignia/Regal and LaCrosse at a later stage.
Do the right thing and the honourable thing and sell Saab GM.
Jeff for your post at 8:28AM, (after one plays the commercial) there is a very interesting video #7 – my moms saab after I crashed it. It plays for 4:59. The attractive young lady does not look like she suffered much in the way of physical damage. It also says something about why Saab owners like the safety features of our Saabs. We drive them and our children drive them. I assume the other pictures are this young lady as a child. Saab, it’s more than just a car.
Thank you Swade. Bullseye!
SAAB will survive. My father placed an order for a not built SAAB 9-3 as late as friday at ANA Trollhättan. Probably the best SAAB retailer in the world. And our swedish King, Zlatan our soccer hero, Henke Larsson another soccer hero, Sven Wolter actorhero all support SAAB.
In the street you can hear wispers and roumors about secret plans for wild strikes in strategic carcomponent factorys that stop GM, Ford and most of Europes car industry within weeks. They have no loyalty, but just in time and low inventory. Dangerous combination.
The swedish metalunion have had enough. They will not take anymore!
“It’s business for him, but it’s personal for me.”
That really summed up the excellent post, as well as my thoughts on the matter. I really think this rings true for a LOT of people. Hopefully they’ll make the right decision.
Thank’s Patrik for keeping us updated!
Now its a bit easier to get some sleep, as it’s is 1 AM here in Finland and time to hit the bed 
That was indeed a good news
Jeff, do you want to put on the Bridgestone Squirrel Screaming Super Bowl 2008 commercial. It features a 2008 Saab 9-3 Aero.
I’ve read the spirt of Saab. It is a great book and I believe you really can’t call your self a Saab enthusiest unless you have read it.
200th comment
aaand I did this actually, but sadly the comment engine for wordpress censored me
Great, also could be GM’s board members after the read SaabsUnited.
Swade, I translated your post “Why Saab’s sale or closure matters so much to me” in italian and sent it to “Cars” dept. of one of the most important italian newspapers “Corriere della Sera”.
Griffin UP!
I can see Swade having a very public delivery of his new 9-5, or new 2010/11 9-3! And SAAB Board, CEO and Managing Director next to him. Keep posting support of SAAB all over the web. These events have led to me joining a lot of new forums to post support for SAAB!
That’s the best advert for SAAB in a long while, but it’s actually for Bridgestone Tire, One of my clients apparently worked on the ad, he’s an exec with the Richards Group in Dallas. I do like Bridgestone, will definitely consider Potenza UHP/MAX performance tires for my Aero, it aired during the Superbowl last year and I was very excited about it, and found out that Pete had a hand in it, I had just sold him a beautiful house in 2008.
Swade,
You have done so much for the cause of saving SAAB. I am very grateful. My gut feel is this threat to shut down SAAB is negotiation tactic by GM.
In my household that will always be a place for SAAB. Now we have two.
Once SAAB is sold, I would like to see them offer stock for customers to purchase so that they would have a set of owners who are really committed.
If my gut feel is wrong, I wonder whether any of these current bidders for SAAB will be willing to start a new company with the SAAB name. Because GM does not own the SAAB name. May be we can all contribute to provide some funding to start the new company. I know I am dreaming here but that is how every thing starts.
My point above is that it is very telling and quite sad that the Bridgestone “Screaming Squirrel” ad is actually also the best advert for SAAB in the U.S. for decades!
Gri(ee)ff(tt)in(g)s from Lisbon!
What I feel for SAAB is still inside a poetic-research-motor, so its hard to express.
but…
Remember Kraftwerk? The Dusseldorf-based electronic band? They openned a new horizon in music since 1973 with pieces like Radioactivity and Trans Europe Express. Then for some years they got insivible. Everybody thought they where dead. Suddendly they emmerge with a series of live shows that are absolutely mesmerizing, pure aestethics, minimal, sculptural music. Critics all over the world became silent.
SAAB is the same. Powerfull Ideas do not die. I feel relaxed for SAAB, for if GM doesn t get it SAAB will appear in a new and unexpected cenario. Just as the cenario that gave birth to this enigmatic and powerfull brand.
The world is fuelled by a lot more than macroeconomics.
And if you feel so, listen to this, a Kraftwerk piece called AERO…….dynamic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCwCB1FanTs
best,
Andre
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