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Saabs United New York is online!!

March 31, 2010 in Saabology

UPDATE: The press day is today, so check it all out.
Includes a new LIVE area, which should hopefully capture the Saab press conference.
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This is embarrassingly good.
By that, I mean it’s really freaking good for you and embarrassing for me. Let me explain.
Jeff, he of the incredibly good Saab design photoshop images, will be attending the New York Auto Show as your Saabs United reporter, covering all the ins and outs of the show and getting to meet some of the Saab movers and shakers.
Jeff’s put together a great little website especially for the event, with some fantastic technology built right in.
Check out Saabs United NY
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Basically, the whole site is arranged through Jeff’s MobileMe account so when he takes a photo and uploads it via his phone, the image will appear on the website straight away. Same with Youtube movies he shoots of press conferences, etc.
As soon as he’s done processing it, you’ll be able to see it on Saabs United NY.
Jeff’s just taken this game up a few notches and I’m completely blown away by what he’s put together here. Heck, I’m basically running the same software I was using back in February 2005, which is why it’s somewhat embarrassing. I gotta get me some geek lotion or something, as this is just awesome.
Bookmark it. The press day for the New York Auto Show is March 31st (tomorrow) so make sure you check in. I’ll be doing regular updates here as well as material comes to hand.

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‘Viggen’ to become a tuning arm of Saab?

March 31, 2010 in Saabology

There’s one review that’s doing the rounds of some of the bigger magazines. We first saw it thanks to Edmunds Inside Line just over a week ago. It appeared in Winding Road earlier this week and now, it’s in Auto Express.
The review was written by a guy named Matt Davis and it seems he’s sold the story to various publications with the right given to them to edit it and change it around so it appears a little different each time.
The interesting thing about this latest iteration is the following, which I don’t recall from previous publications:

Already, there’s virtually no turbo lag when you plant your right foot – something that’s set to improve further when a twin-turbo version prepared by Saab tuning arm Viggen goes on sale. “The Viggen name should play a significant role in Saab’s future,” Muller said.

VignTop92.jpg Now, I do recall the Viggen being mentioned in regard to the 9-5 in the Inside Line article, but I don’t recall the Viggen name being regarded as the future tuning arm of Saab.
Not that I’d be disappointed to see more of the Viggen. I think the Viggen badge has heaps of currency amongst the Saab faithful and I’m overjoyed at the prospect of some mad machinery with the bumble-bee triangle on it.
But will there only be a Saab 9-5 Viggen, or a whole Viggen line through the Saab range?
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There will also be a high-performance Viggen version of each new model.

Interesting…..

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News from Saab – new BAIC deal and

March 31, 2010 in News

It’s non-stop action on many different fronts at Saab right now. There’s new and mysterious model variations going on, dealer presentations all around the world, a de-facto spokesman for Russia and in the midst of all that, new goings-on in China and Trollhattan as well.
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Saab have had to pay a bill for services rendered by accounting firms Vinge and KPMG, who were hired by the Swedish National Debt Office to assess Saab’s assets when Saab were applying for government loan guarantees. The account came to 39million Swedish crowns, which is a lot of clams.
Just wait til they get my bill!!!!
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Saab employees at the factory in Sweden will be having a shorter vacation this Summer. An agreement has been reached to shorten the traditional vacation from 4 weeks down to 3.
I think they’ll cope. It’s not like they’ve been overworked so far this year :-)
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Saab has reached a new agreement with Beijing Automotive. On top of the vehicle tooling they’ve already sold and the ongoing consultancy they’ll have regarding that, Saab now have a marketing agreement with BAIC.
The MoU was signed on Monday and means that Saab will have a foot in the door in China, as well as BAIC possibly having some access to some of Saab’s 1,100 dealers around the world.
This could be the beginning of a long, intricate relationship.
And on that Saab vehicle tooling that BAIC bought…… they’ve already commenced work on a new factory capable of building 150,000 cars a year, as well as an engine plant. Fast movers.

Thanks to MrY and Justyn for tips!

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Saab offer new Turbo4 engine for 9-5 in Sweden

March 31, 2010 in News

Arild has picked up on an addition to the Saab 9-5 range being offered in Sweden.
When we first saw product specs earlier this month, the only Turbo4 petrol engine on offer was the 220hp version.
According to a new brochure available (pdf), they’ve now added a 180hp version of the engine as well.
There are no CO2 or acceleration figures in the brochure and the engine seems to be available only for the Vector model, only with a manual gearbox and at a price of 318,000SEK.
Thanks Arild for the info….

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Small Saab vs Volvo C30

March 31, 2010 in Saabology

The Volvo C30 is one the cars I’m most curious about and am yet to drive. I reckon it looks fantastically cool, but particularly un-Swedish with it’s lack of practicality. I’ll get around to driving a C30 one of these days.
One of our regulars, Till72, had some wheel time in the C30 recently and he used that opportunity to put some considered thoughts about a possible future small Saab on paper.
My thanks to Till for sending them through……

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While my 9-5 SC recieved a service and spring cleaning at my dealer I got a C30 as a loaner. It was quite interesting because I thought about getting one for my wife when we ended up with the Impreza some years ago. This was the first chance I had to drive one. While I had it for two days I took a bit of a closer look at the car with regard to what I’d expect from a future Saab 92.
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I got a pretty much base 1,6 D model. The engine is nice and the 109 hp are enough to move the car, even a bit sporty if you push it. No real turbo lag and though I didn’t find a consumption display the 5,7 litre/100 km Volvo lists for city driving seems feasible after re-filling the car. Saab, it might be good to have such a small diesel engine for the European market. It might even fit a 9-3.
First thing when I get a loaner is fitting my child seat. And right then I remembered that Isofix-joints are an option with Volvo. I have to admit that I find this a bit lame for a manufacturer who claims to build some of the safest cars in the world. Saab, please keep installing them as standard.
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Getting into a small car is always interesting for me as I’m quite tall (1,98 m). Seat position is too high, maybe sport seats would do a better job. And what I felt is that the driver space is extremely narrow and due to that, not too comfortable. (I won’t start talking about the usability of the back seat behind me.) The C30 really feels like a small car. Our Impreza (which is 15 cm longer but with a 2cm shorter wheelbase) had a much roomier feel. Saab, please make a small car usable for taller drivers, too. Well I think you will since Victor isn’t too small, either.
The button dash consists of lots of small buttons side by side with the climate control hidden behind the stick. Looks nice but hard to use (won’t even think about using them with gloves). Looks like Volvo got lost in design with that. Saab, I know you got better solutions. Bring’em on.
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One thing I like is that there are two seperate back seats. You wouldn’t want to sit three there (not even children) since it’s really narrow so I like that style. Saab, maybe waste a thought about that.
The trunk…the size is ok but the back door is so narrow that you have a hard time getting a baby buggy in, for example. It would fit, but you end up folding down the back seats just to navigate it in. The back looks nice but it’s far from being practical. Saab, please give the 92 a proper hatch.
Those two days reminded me why I chose Saab ten years ago when looking at the two Swedish brands. And it showed me that it was a good move to get the Impreza back when we needed a small car. And I’m really looking forward to Saabs interpretation of a small car.

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Saab convertibles celebrate spring in France

March 31, 2010 in Saabology

It seems the C900 meeting wasn’t the only Saab event happening in France over the weekend…..
Since 2003, Saab France have sprung into spring with a celebratory drive in a collection of Saab convertibles and of course, with so much to celebrate in 2010, this year provided no exception.
Last week they headed off on their latest convoy, which took in several cities and finished up in Paris.
As you can see, the cars were decorated with some of the I Love Saab livery designed by Saab in Belgium and it’s definitely something to make the other commuters and bystanders look and take notice of those beautiful Irresistavertibles.
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Saabs United Historic Rally Team update – and competition!!

March 30, 2010 in Rally Team

I’ve just been very busy posting some updates to our Saabs United Historic Rally Team home page.
What, you didn’t know that there was a Saabs United Historic Rally Team?! Well, there is, and our two Saab 99 Turbos will be running in the 2010 Rally to the Midnight Sun in just a matter of months from now.
Car #1 is now looking absolutely fantastic with its shiny black paint and rally livery. The guys are finishing off the body work now and soon the engine will be ready to go in.
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Here’s some of the recent postings and videos from the SUHRT website:

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And now to our competition!!!!
Watch the video and J

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[Unofficial] Swiss pricing for the Saab 9-5

March 30, 2010 in News

As yet unconfirmed, but pretty solid. Passed on by Djup Strupe and received with thanks.
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Here is the unofficial 9-5 pricing for Switzerland. It’s close to German pricing – but as always a little bit higher :-(
Model Year 2010-1/2
2.0T 220 HP linear
6 speed manual 52500 CHF (XWD 56600 CHF)
6 speed automatic 55500 CHF (XWD 59600 CHF)
2.0T 220 HP vector
6 speed manual 56000 CHF (XWD 60100 CHF)
6 speed automatic 59000 CHF (XWD 63100 CHF)
2.0T 220 HP aero
6 speed manual 65000 CHF (XWD 69600 CHF)
6 speed automatic 68500 CHF (XWD 72600 CHF)
2.8T XWD 300 HP 6 speed automatic 76900 CHF
2.0TiD 160 HP linear
6 speed manual 53500 CHF,
6 speed automatic 56500 CHF
2.0TiD 160 HP vector
6 speed manual 57000 CHF,
6 speed automatic 60000 CHF
All prices incl. 7,6% VAT
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Model Year 2011

  • 1.6T 180 HP linear/ vector
  • 2.0T BioPower 220 HP linear/vector/aero
  • 2.0TTiD 190 HP linear/vector/aero
  • 2.0 TTiD 190 HP XWD linear/vector/aero
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Umm. I’m 40.

March 30, 2010 in Troll Stuff

It’s been quiet here today, I know.
I wrote a few weeks ago about my birthday because I was heading over to Melbourne to celebrate with the extended family. That was an early celebration.
Today’s the day. Hence the slower than usual work rate around here. I’ve just got back from a nice 2.5 hour lunch with Stu the Lens Genius and will spend the evening contemplating what will be next into the SU garage.
Ah, the contemplation and internal goal setting that such milestones bring. I’m sure things will be back to normal soon.
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As a side issue, is it wrong for me to wish for one of these wrapped up as a present when I get home?
Seriously, it has got cult car written all over it. Forget the Mini, the A1 or the 1-series as benchmarks. If Saab could build a small car with even half the grunt and street cred of that RS500 then they’ll have done something monumental at the first try.
It’s one of the first times I find myself instantly smitten by a car.

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Vote: Saab 9-5 in AutoBild Design Awards

March 30, 2010 in Saabology

I hope you can read German.
kat_B_0.jpgIf so, then click here and vote for the Saab 9-5 in the Limousinen & Kombis section of the 2010 AutoBild Design Awards.
You need to complete a form with your email address included in order to vote. I made my way through it so I’m sure you can too.
Thanks to Kai for the heads up!

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Per Eklund in Finland

March 30, 2010 in Saabology

This is the second of my Finland updates for this evening. It’s a bit of an historical record, given that it happened late in 2009, but the story and the pics are so good I had to run it for you now.
Again, this was submitted by Marco H and I offer him my thanks for a good Saab tale.

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Finland will host one race in the European Rally Cross Championship this year and the Kouvola rally cross track will be the venue. We got a nice guest racer in the race last fall. I got an excellent chance to see this team perform live thanks to my good friend Mr. Simo R. Lampinen.
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The people in the pictures are Per Eklund, Simo R. Lampinen and myself. The cars are nice “cousins”: Both rare (at the time only 100 units of 9-3X had been built) and both all wheel drives. The licence plate (sticker) on the 9-3X is for transfer use only within Finland.
The ERC Saab is quite heavily modified with fenders, doors and hoods made of Carbon Fiber. The car produces approx. 600 bhp and is of course an AWD vehicle. That weekend in Kouvola they had to take down the launch control to a minimum in order to prevent excess wheel spin. It is probably unnecessary to say that Mr Eklund won the race against the local Rally Cross heroes. The race itself was a kind of scrutineering for the Kouvola track to see if the organisation could handle and ERC event (the other candidates were Norway and Austria). And as stated earlier – it will…
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I believe you know Per Eklund is competing in the ERC series with the Saab 9-3. Simo and Per are friends from a long time back.
But did you know that Simo R. Lampinen competed with the Saab factory team in the 60′s and 70′s? He also competed with the Finnish “factory” team as well. Yes, we were manufacturing Saabs in Finland and we had a team here. I believe the cars were at least as fast and reliable as their Swedish “brothers”. I have seen some really nice pics from Simo’s personal files from his competing days with Saab…
Simo R. Lampinen in Wikipedia
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Saab C900 day from Paris

March 29, 2010 in Saabology

I haven’t heard any reports from the Classic Saab 900 day held in Paris over the weekend, but looking at the various photos online already, it looks like they had some mixed weather, and a whole heap of fantastic cars.
Apparently there were 103 classic Saab 900s in attendance. That’s a wonderful result, so congratulations to the organisers!
Etienne from Saabhuy has an album here.
Robin M made the journey from England, along with half a dozen others, and he has an album here.
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As Eggs is so fond of saying – Vive le C900!

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Saab report from Finland

March 29, 2010 in News

I’ve received some great reportage from Finland today and it’s really encouraging to read what’s happening in some of these smaller Saab markets that we don’t normally get to hear about.
Of course, Saab has a great association with Finland over the years and I’ve personally owned three or four Finnish built Saabs, including my old Lightning Blue Saab 9-3 Viggen and the Monte Carlo I’m driving right now.
I’d like to pass on my thanks to Marco H for the info he’s passed on today. I hope you all find it as encouraging as I have.

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Tuulilasi (translated as windshield) is one of the big car magazines in Finland. It is known for reporting the car market from a honest and professional point of view.
Recently they have carried news about the Finnish Saab importer, which will change from GM Finland to Saab Automobile (Spyker owned). Also is stated that the Director will be Antti Foudila, who was the Country Director of Saab within GM Finland as well. All the 17 dealers will continue as Saab dealers under the new importer. All these dealers are already working with several other brands as well.
The goal for 2010 will be to sell 400 of the 9-3 models and 300 of the new 9-5. For 2010 that would lead to a market share of 0,7% in Finland in a projected sale of 100,000 cars totally in the country.
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I also want to add an old article from 13th of Jan this year in a Financial web newspaper called Taloussanomat.
It was reported that since the wind down started, almost all the new Saabs in stock had been literally torn away from the dealers in Finland. The dealers CEO Jari Nordman said that in the beginning of 2010 they had around 50 new Saabs in their stocks and in barely 2 weeks they were down to 20 unsold Saabs and were still counting.
Many of these new Saabs had been bought by the local Saab Club members and this was confirmed from the Club chairman Juha Lehtonen; also mentioning that most of these cars were becoming daily driving cars. One point mentioned about this sales peak was that many new cars in Finland were sold with up to a 15% discount as the 2009 was a buyers year anyway (especially with cash).
Also mentioned in the article was that there were more people than ever wanting to join the Finnish Saab Club and Juha Lehtonen was not sure if the total member count had reached over 3000 at the writing of the article but people were joining the club at a rate of 2 new members per day at that time. Probably exceeding the amount of memberships in the Finnish Mercedes Benz club.
In the end of the article is mentioned that Finland has about 47.000 Saabs registered, of which the oldest are from the 50′s.

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Allt om Motor: All Saab diesels to emit under 120g/kg CO2 (eventually)

March 29, 2010 in News

SEE ADDENDUM, below…..

There’s an interview with Saab product manager, Magnus Hansson, appearing on the Swedish site, Allt om Motor. It’s primarily about the Saab 9-5 and how it will meet various market requirements.
One of those market needs is low emissions. People are taxed on these in some countries and governments have certain fleet purchasing rules based on them as well.
Hansson gave out some interesting information in this interview, stating the following:

All three diesel versions of 120, 150 and 190 horsepower will meet 120-gram limit within twelve months of the manual version, reveals Magnus Hansson. And with a 190-horsepower diesel engine under 120 grams, we can not compromise with driving pleasure and Saab’s core values, with a clear direction for Volvo and Volkswagen are performing great and efficient, but ‘tired’ cars.

All three diesels under 120grams???
Now, bear in mind that’s a Googletrans, but I did get tipped off about this story by Anders M, who also included a note about all three diesels’ emissions when he sent the tip.
I’m just wondering if there’s isn’t something lost in translation here, something we’re missing.
If it’s correct, then diesel fans really do have something to look forward to, as does Saab. A new 9-5 making 190hp and getting under the 120g limbo stick will be quite a popular car with the business class set, I’d imagine.
ADDENDUM
Advice via comments from those who speak the lingo indicates that this news relates to diesels in the 9-3 range of vehicles.
The sub-120 diesel for a Saab 9-5 will not come until after 2011.

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Vladimir Antonov talks about Saab

March 29, 2010 in News

The Moscow Times, an online English language news service, had a very short article today, quoting Vladimir Antonov talking about Saab building cars in Russia.

The whole thing:

Saab is looking to build an assembly plant in Russia, said Vladimir Antonov, a former stakeholder in Spyker who left the company so it could buy Saab from General Motors.

“I think we will sign a memorandum of understanding regarding production in Russia … within a month,” Antonov, who said he was a financial adviser to Spyker CEO Viktor Muller, told Slon.ru web site Friday.

Most likely, the assembly facility will be in Kaliningrad and produce 10,000 cars per year, he said. Neither Saab nor Muller had any immediate response to the interview.

I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to find the interview this snippet piece was based on, but I finally managed to do so and it’s a pretty comprehensive interview with Antonov. It covers various subjects, but really revolves around the Saab deal and his ongoing role in the background.

Admittedly, Saab would possibly prefer that the focus remains on the New York Auto Show and the Saab 9-5 right now. But as long as Vladimir Antonov is out there giving interviews, this story isn’t going to go away. There’s a definite disconnect between the public and private faces of Saab right now, which I don’t necessarily think does the company much good.

A Googletrans of the full interview follows these summary points:

  • Antonov states he’s acting as a personal consultant to Victor Muller
  • Says deal was ready to be signed with GM by December 24th before GM cancelled deal on the 18th December last year.
  • Dismisses claims GM had him linked to organised crime, says only Dagens Industri made that link.
  • Antonov wants to manufacture Saab vehicles based on older technology, in Russia for the Russian market. These would be based on outgoing Saab 9-3 and 9-5 technology that wasn’t sold to BAIC

It’s a long interview and remember, it’s just a Googletrans, but I think you’ll get the picture.

Thanks also to Justyn for the tip on the Moscow Times article.

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“Comrade Antonov quite compos mentis”

From the decision of Vladimir Antonov’s fate Saab. American auto giant General Motors has agreed to sell the company to the Dutch Spyker only after the Antonov, at that time the owner of 29,9% stake in Spyker, has sold its portfolio of management of this manufacturer of supercars. If he did not, the Americans were ready to close Saab. So Antonov, thrown out of the deal, was nevertheless an indirect savior of the legendary Swedish brand.

Although Antonov complied with the American side, he has remained involved in the automotive industry, becoming a personal consultant Victor Muller – the new owner of Saab.

We Antonov serious plans for the Swedish brand. He plans to run in Kaliningrad assembly Saab specially for Russia. For the price this car will compete with the Ford Focus, and the size – with the Mondeo. Saab will have Russian, Chinese and Russian units. In addition, the businessman thinks that the issue for Europe, the Chinese model.

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