Saab 9-3 TTiD – Why 119g/km of CO2 matters

If you’re living outside of Europe, then you might be wondering exactly what all the fuss is about when it comes to Saab’s new low-emissions TTiD engine range.

Comparing the Saab TTiD with its low-emissions competition shows that this new engine range has lefted Saab into a super-competitive position in the European market. There are few, if any vehicles that offer the similar amounts of space, power and low CO2 emissions as the 9-3 Sport Sedan fitted with one of these updated TTiD engines. And they’re close to getting the SportCombi under the 120g/km threshold, too.

So why does all this matter?

Fleet News have done a review of the Saab 9-3 TTiD Sport Sedan and their writeup spells it out nicely:

In addition to the twin turbos, Saab has reduced friction in the engine, added low rolling resistance tyres, lightened the car by replacing the sound deadening material, improved the aerodynamics and altered the gear ratios.

It means the Saab now circumvents first year VED and costs just £30 per year thereafter.

It also means 62.8mpg.

And it will be music to fleet users’ ears that the 9-3 has dropped below the all-important 120g/km threshold for the first time (except Aero models). With that comes BIK tax at 13%…..

….The 180bhp diesel engine is a real cracker and the 9-3 balances responsive handling with pothole-smothering comfort. Tall gearing means it settles at low engine speed on the motorway, nice and quiet….

[The gearchange] and a cabin that’s starting to look its age now are the only real gripes; the 9-3 isn’t a benchmark car in any area, but nor does it feel a generation behind any more.

Verdict

In a nutshell, the 9-3 diesel is better and cheaper than it was before – and you can’t really ask much more than that.

Recommended reading.

Talladegan
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Talladegan
5 years 9 months ago

Fair and positive.

Not bad reading at all and may be the kind of thing to pop a few extra fleet sales for Saab GB. Execellent to see.

JeremyP
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JeremyP
5 years 9 months ago

Adjusted for american size gallons and the EPA cycles I think this would be about 45MPG. Think we might be able to sell a few of these? NOBODY in the USA offers anything in this segment with these mpg’s. I think we could sell the hell out of a 9-3 TTiD at a $30K TRANSACTION price. Although I do think the 2010/2011 VW Golf TDI is a pretty nice ride if you fancy something a bit more basic. Yes I said it, I am a Saab guy and I like the new Golf/GTI!

Paddan
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Paddan
5 years 9 months ago

Confidentially, I like the VW Golf and GTI too. And I’ve driven Saabs for over 30 years.

Börjesson
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Börjesson
5 years 9 months ago

As I’ve understood it, this diesel unfortunately can’t be sold in the US, as it doesn’t comply with US emission regulations. It should do very well in Europe, though. And if they get the Combi down to the magic 119 as well, it will do wonders for Swedish sales.

I happen to have a Golf (though not a diesel), and I like it too! It handles very well, it’s a huge improvement on my last car. Of course, that’s hardly surprising, considering my last car was a ’91 Chevy Cavalier…

Henrik
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Henrik
5 years 9 months ago

About the 9-3 SC, I just read this from Skoda

“Our investigation indicated Skoda to stop / start reducing CO2 emissions by 5 g # 100 kilometers driving test. In addition, also Brake and Recovery, which means recharging the battery should be done mainly during braking. It saves you 3 grams”

This should mean that either of the two would be sufficient to get the 9-3 SC below 120g, and it can´t be so hard to fix.

Phoenix
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Phoenix
5 years 9 months ago

No need to spend money on implementing this technology in the current 9-3. They are already class leading and should only focus on getting that SC under 120 as well. It is so funny to read commercials about small cars stating that they are below the 120Co limit and free from tax. What you get is a car for 4 small people and a 70hp engine. Every time I see them I think of the 9-3. A mid-size sedan with 180hp and room for 4 adults including their bags. Amazing

RS
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RS
5 years 9 months ago

I agree. The day start/stop fails and your in the middle of nowhere looking at -30C is something I never want to experience in a SAAB.

Edis
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Edis
5 years 9 months ago

Not a problem, stop-start is only active under certain conditions.

Cars with stop-start and regenerative charging also use a different type of battery that is more resistant to deep cycles.

matt
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matt
5 years 9 months ago

It’s great to know a company cares about the impact it’s cars have on the whole world. I’ve sort of been keeping up with the TTiD things from Saab and it’s just amazing. No I’m waiting for the diesel hybrid to come out.

Nikolay Rusanov
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5 years 9 months ago

that’s what had made Saab brand – being the best in it’s class your money can buy =)
best in something, not everything, but best anyway

Arild
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5 years 9 months ago

I am surprised by all the good reviews the updated 9-3 TTiD get. I would expect nice words about the engine, but I am amazed that they also say good things about the car’s handling. I have always liked the 9-3, but from what I can remember the reviews the past years haven’t been all that positive when it comes down to neither the engine nor the handling. Give this car a better interior and it can fight with the BMW 3-series and Audi A4 again!

RS
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RS
5 years 9 months ago

+1.
With a little tweak on the steering and suspension side of things (better fitting the model/engine, wheels) the ride in the 9-3 is easily on par with the A’s and the B’s. And again, much better during December-March. Maybe that’s what Saab has done, but how about some PR on the fact?

Stefan
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Stefan
5 years 9 months ago

I cannot remind me that I have driven any Saab with better handling and feel than the NG 9-3 (I have yet to drive a NG 9-5 though). I drive a 9-3 SC 2.0T 2007 with 16 inch wheels and without sport suspension and I think it’s fantastic.

Bernard
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Bernard
5 years 9 months ago

I wonder if some of the changes will also be applied to the rest of the range.

A lighter, more aerodynamic Biopower 9-3 wouldn’t hurt.

Me
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Me
5 years 9 months ago
Yes. Other efficiency measures introduced include: * Recalibrated engine management with improved fuel injection and combustion control * Revised gear ratios to match new power and torque characteristics * Improved electrical power management, including sophisticated alternator control when battery charging is not required and more efficient electro-hydraulic power steering assistance * Low rolling resistance tires for reduced road friction * Improved aerodynamics, with rear underbody deflector blades * Reduced weight through lighter construction and sound-deadening materials * More sophisticated torque converter for automatic transmission with optimized shifting strategy The all-turbo gasoline line-up, which features an average reduction in fuel consumption… Read more »
Thylmuc
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Thylmuc
5 years 9 months ago

A bit frustrating though that in the meantime, Fiat introduced a new Diesel engine that is now in the 9-5. Thus, the engineers now need to restart working on this new engine, at least in respect to those measures that concerned the engine itself, not the body

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 9 months ago

I would not say that is frustrating. The engineeers at Saab love to do that, and they will do it so well.

Steve W
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Steve W
5 years 9 months ago

As far as I know the ‘new’ fiat diesel is essentially the same unit.

Aeronaut
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Aeronaut
5 years 9 months ago

Any rumors about when it will be possible to order a SC TTiD with emissions of 119g?

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