Geneva Snippets – 9-3x Edition

I’ve finally made my landing in Geneva and it was great to hit terra firma again after 36 hours from door to door. There’s just no easy way of getting from Tasmania to Europe. At least I’ve signed up for frequent flyer points this time 🙂

I met my hosts, Marc and Priska at the airport and got a ride to their home in their Saab 9-3x. More about them and that car later, it’s a great story.

Tomorrow night, we dine with Dimitri and Fredric (from www.dimichi.ch), our unofficial ambassador Saab in the UK, Robin M and Mr Redj himself. If others are in the area and want to join us, just let me know. I’m sure we can expand the booking.

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And speaking of the Saab 9-3x, a comparative test has been published pitting the smaller Saab Softroader against the Volvo V60. The magazine is a Danish one called Dine Penge.

I’ll let you go there and do a full Googletrans (they might not like it if I post the full test here), but it’s encouraging reading considering their setup of a brand new model vs an eight-year-old platform.

Jesper has provided an edited version and here are some highlights from it:

When you consider that the Saab 9-3 in its current form is merely a continuous facelift of a model which was introduced way back in 2002, then it is in its place with a solid and heartfelt “Wow!” It has oceans of surplus, a tight and comfortable chassis, lots of equipment and so have the X factor. It has its own on an amazing charming way, with the key located below the front seats and the curved aircraft windscreen. While most new cars today will run in the same direction, then Saab is not afraid to stick out. To be completely his own. And particularly in the tested 9-3X version has more character than Ole Ernst’s eyebrows together…..

…..Volvo comes to a basic version with D3 diesel engine 503,000 crowns ($93,000). But you must have it in an equipment level that matches Saabs, then it will come much closer to 600,000 crowns ($111,000). The 9-3X is priced at 499,900 crowns ($92,000), and it is really well equipped. Oil burner(parking heater?), xenon headlamps, electric chairs, cool rims and everything you expect of comfort features in a car in half million is present in the Saab. Only thing missing is a navigation device, but it can be bought for 42,500 crowns together with a solid upgraded stereo and it’s close to what they in the U.S. call ‘Fully Loaded’. That speaks so much to the Saab’s advantage when accounts must be made up.

Audi A4 Avant with 170 horsepower costs about the same as the Volvo, while the BMW 320d Touring is 100,000 crowns ($18,000) more expensive. Seen in this light, the Saab 9-3X is a really very prestigious estate car for the money. Volvo, is in itself the best car of the two Swedes – and it would be strange otherwise, because the basic structure is eight years later. But should I choose, I would be in doubt. Because the Saab is so damn cool, and it turns significantly more heads in traffic than the Volvo.

It’s a review well worth the reading. The above seems like a long passage, but it’s really just a small part of it.

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You wouldn’t believe it, but here in suburban Geneva, at around 3pm, I just saw a black Dodge Challenger.

And earlier this week, back in Hobart, I saw a new Chevy Camaro. Considering they don’t sell them in Australia, someone’s gone to great expense to pay an importer to get one here and swap the steering to the other side. They’ve possibly paid upwards of $100K for what is a $30,000 or so car in its home market.

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Saab’s press conference is scheduled for 11:45am tomorrow, Geneva time.

RedJ has already noted the live coverage that the Geneva people will be providing. We’ll be getting all we can up on site as soon as possible.

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A couple of CSI-watching Saab fans noted a Saab 95 being shown in a recent episode. Here’s a couple of screencaps…..

Hans H
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Hans H
5 years 6 months ago

The CSI-Saab looks like the car Charlie Sheen drives in the movie “The Arrival” (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115571/)
If that’s the case it’s a 1968 V4.

I have read lots about the 9-3x. But I still don’t really know which one is the best; the 2WD diesel or the 4WD biopower. Has anyone here driven both?

Marc
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Marc
5 years 6 months ago

In Geneva there is 5-7 Challenger rolls and only two 9-3X (including mine)
I hope that always goes well, remember that there are Coke in the fridge
see you soon

Marc

Swisstroll
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5 years 6 months ago

Tomorrow will be a 3rd one…

Welcome in Switzerland Swade !

Marc
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Marc
5 years 6 months ago

It’s good news!

Wulf
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Wulf
5 years 6 months ago

A RHD Camaro can be had for AU$ 139K. You really must like it to spend that kind of money on a Camaro. Insane!
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/27/right-hand-drive-camaro-available-in-australia-for-a-measly-128/

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

Wouldn’t it be wise to import it from GB – to save some of the costs.. as then you get the steering on the correct location at once?

Ralph
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Ralph
5 years 6 months ago

Saabs in movies? here’s a list (eat your heart out).

Saabulon
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Saabulon
5 years 6 months ago

Great stuff 🙂

Rodney
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Rodney
5 years 6 months ago

It kills me that they don’t replace the Saab badge. Especially in the show Parenthood. One of our favorite shows and I grimace every time I see the badge. I am tempted to mail them one!

OddJob
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OddJob
5 years 6 months ago

That is an awesome collection. Thanks for the tip.

Robert P
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Robert P
5 years 6 months ago

Oil burner = Diesel

rodmylon
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rodmylon
5 years 6 months ago
Still now sneak peak or more in depth info on the concept car. No nothing! It’s something like 17 hours to the show and we know less about it than about the 92 that Victor has been talking about and isn’t even in the business plan, just a vision. This must be the best kept secret by Saab on any auto show. =P It’s really frustrating =D I think some sort of sneak peak would build up more interest for the car and the presentation tomorrow. As it is now only Saab nuts and some general car nuts in Sweden… Read more »
Börjesson
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Börjesson
5 years 6 months ago

There actually was a sneak peek two weeks ago. Here it is, if you missed it.

rodmylon
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rodmylon
5 years 6 months ago

Yes I’ve seen it (obviously, as I’m a Saab nut 😉 )
Still nobody actually knows what part of the car it shows. According to a comment in AMS.se it’s play with the lights, so Tiago’s rendering wasn’t even close (even though it looks great too).

Usually Saab’s, and other maker’s, cars are shown or leaked before the actual showing. This time Saab has been really tight. Maybe it’s because there are fewer cooks involved now (swedish saying), without GM =)

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

That’s the good thing with a sneak peek.. 😉 We don’t know.. and thus.. we become even more obsessed with wanting to get more information. 😉

OddJob
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OddJob
5 years 6 months ago

Tiago’s angle of the car is right. But the real picture is … well unimaginable (no offense Tiago). To give you a clue I would comment this car with a classic Saab Tagline from UK:

Nothing on Earth comes close.

Toby
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Toby
5 years 6 months ago

It’s a space ship? 😉

WM
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WM
5 years 6 months ago

Like the new header! Very exciting couple of days for Saab aficionados.

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

Can only agree with you!

Mike900
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Mike900
5 years 6 months ago

Love it!

Magnus Olert
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Magnus Olert
5 years 6 months ago

Agree! The new header is really cool! I like it a lot.

alex96
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alex96
5 years 6 months ago

I guess RedJ did it again.
He should know what is under the cover !!
Show us RedJ

Torbjörn
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Torbjörn
5 years 6 months ago

Read the review of the 9-3X comparing it with Volvo. I could only agree – I have driven the 9-3x through a really could winter in Sweden and the car has been great. Starting early morning for work in minus 25 degrees, fueled with Ethanol. No problems even without a heater. The handling is greaton icy roads. I just think is a bit sad that this car has not been promoted and talked about enough. It is a pearl in the Saab line up. I just love it.

Torbjörn

Robin M
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5 years 6 months ago

Love the new header

JensLJ
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JensLJ
5 years 6 months ago

If you like the review in “Dine Penge”, you might like this video of the 9-5 as well.

He likes the Night Panel 🙂

The conclusion: Saab can still add to the build quality but its a very nice alternative to sexless german transport.

turbokalle
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turbokalle
5 years 6 months ago

Saab Phoenix! Name of the conceptcar 🙂

Jeff
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Jeff
5 years 6 months ago

Confirmed? I suspected it but I wanted to keep my mouth shut 😛 Really hope that’s what they went with!

GerritN
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GerritN
5 years 6 months ago

Hm, giving it the same name as the 9-3 platform could lead to a bit of confusion.

Not too many birds in Norse Mythology, couple of ravens, that’s about it.

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

I don’t see a problem in that, as one thing is just a technical platform while the other is a concept car.

We can call it.. hm… Woodpecker, Crow, Swan, Eagle, Magpie, House Sparrow, Barn Swallow, Bullfinch, or just Phoenix… 😉 😉

Arild
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5 years 6 months ago
From http://www.automotorsport.se: The Saab 9-4X is there and a quick test sitting gives much Saab vibes. Fine intimate environment for the driver, a rear seat that nicely accommodates two adults and a Saab-styled boot that is probably not the biggest in the class. It’s not a shy car. Saab 9-5 SportCombi is still hiding under a white drape, but tomorrow we’ll see the interior which is said to be a little more premium and the back seat will be checked out. But we are waiting the most for the concept which will be named after a bird. I will not… Read more »
Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

Damn.. you beat me to it.. hahaha… 😀 😀

Arild
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5 years 6 months ago

I think we can call it a tie 😉

maanders
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maanders
5 years 6 months ago

Well, I loved the look of the Aero X, so here is hoping I will be in the “love it” group for Jason’s concept vehicle. I am hoping that the “love it or hate it” statement is in reference to it being a hatchback….something people either seem to love or hate. 🙂

Henrik
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Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

One of the commenters at AMS suggested that the bird might be named “Fenix”. That sounds pretty likely to me. And cool!

Carl-Henrik
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Carl-Henrik
5 years 6 months ago

Swedish AMS ( Waiting for the Saab-bird ) states the JC concept will be given a bird-name.

They also have a photo of the Saab stand with large ice-blocks and a covered 9-5 SC. The reporters have had a sit in the 9-4X and they liked it, but didn’t write so much about it. More to come!

etienne
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etienne
5 years 6 months ago

I will be at work tomorrow but my mind and soul will be with you! cheers everyone!!!!!

steve
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steve
5 years 6 months ago

We need to vote on what the bird will be: I vote Phoenix.

Toby
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Toby
5 years 6 months ago

Really? Damn I was sure it was going to be the Saab Woodcock.

maanders
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maanders
5 years 6 months ago

Don’ you know? Bird is the word.

I’ll bet there will be a lot of talk tomorrow at the Geneva show about Saab’s new bird.

Peter
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Peter
5 years 6 months ago

Depending on how it handles, how about…

Peter
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Peter
5 years 6 months ago

Agile Tit-Tyrant

worpswede
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worpswede
5 years 6 months ago

Roadrunner would be a good bird name for a car.

SouthSider
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SouthSider
5 years 6 months ago

Indeed:

http://www.allpar.com/model/roadrunner.html

One of the icons of my early car memories.

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