Saab small markets sales data – March 2011

If you have information about sales data in any market, this is the place to post it. I will try to update this post on a regular basis.

The list after the jump, now with France and Belgium, Germany and Greece

Today (Wednesday 6th) the UK figures will be published, and with that about 90% of the total sales for March will have been posted on SU.

UPDATE: Finland split

Greece

Total
March 2011 18 (down from 27 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 64 (down from 83 YTD 2010)

Niklas D has provided some split figures

9-3
March: 5
YTD: 20

9-3x
March: 2
YTD: 12

9-5
March: 11
YTD: 32

Saab is about 22% worse than last year, but the total Greek market figures are 55% worse than last year.

Germany

Total
March 2011 116 (up from 61 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 253 (up from 152 YTD 2010)

Germany is doing better as last year, but in 2008 Germany had a YTD value of over 1000 units

Belgium

9-3
March 2011 99 (up from xx in March 2010)
YTD 2011 188 (up from xx in 2010)

9-5
March 2011 62 (up from xx in March 2010)
YTD 2011 139 (up from xx in 2010)

Total
March 2011 161 (up from 50 in 2010)
YTD 2011 327 (up from 206 in 2010)

Total
March 2011 199 (up from 48 in 2010)
YTD 2011 453 (up from 227 in 2010)

Belgium was the 4th strongest market in 2010, and it looks like it will stay in that position this year.

France

Total
March 2011 80 (up from 62 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 180 (up from 146 YTD 2010)

France is not the best performer, but is growing faster than the average French market. Saab +23%; France +8.9%

Italy

Total
March 2011 148 (up from 47 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 384 (up from 152 YTD 2010)

Switzerland

Total
March 2011 85 (up from 47 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 173 (up from 96 YTD 2010)

Finland

9-3
March 2011 59 (up from 13 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 140 (up from 41 in 2010)

9-5
March 2011 10 (up from 1 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 26 (up from 4 in 2010)

Total
March 2011 69 (up from 14 in 2010)
YTD 2011 166 (up from 45 in 2010)

Saab sold 199 cars during the whole last year, this year Saab has already sold 166 cars.

Norway

9-3
March 2011 59 (up from 13 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 132 (up from 51 in 2010)

9-5
March 2011 17 (up from 13 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 36 (up from 6 in 2010)

Total
March 2011 76 (up from 14 in 2010)
YTD 2011 168 (up from 57 in 2010)

This is better than the 118 sold YTD in 2009.

C A N A D A

Saab has sold this year so far 20 cars in Canada, which can be split into
11 in January, 2 in February and 7 in March.

Last year Saab didn’t sell cars in Canada.

Portugal

March 2011 28 (up from 1 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 58 (up from 8 YTD 2010)

Saab is recovering in the Portuguese market, a market that has sold 20% less cars in March 2011 compared to March 2010

Poland

9-3
March 2011 37
YTD 2011 57

9-5
March 2011 7
YTD 2011 24

Total
March 2011 44
YTD 2011 81

This has been the best monthly sales result Saab reported in Poland since 1st January 2009!

The Netherlands

9-3
March 2011 74 (up from 43 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 255 (up from 129 in 2010)

9-5
March 2011 31 (up from 3 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 142 (up from 17 in 2010)

Total
March 2011 105 (up from 47 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 397 (up from 146 YTD 2010)

More than double in March and more than double YTD.

Spain

9-3
March 2011 56 (down from 71 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 136 (down from 146 in 2010)

9-5
March 2011 14 (down up from 9 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 51 (down up from 16 in 2010)

Total
March 2011 70 (down from 80 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 187 (up from 167 YTD 2010)

In Spain the car market did go down by 29% from March to March, thus a decrease by 12.5% is still kind of OK on those circumstances.

Austria

March 2011 24 (up from 6 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 82 (up from 10 YTD 2010)

In Austria Saab sold 102 in 2010, this year Saab could sell three times as much.

Ireland

9-3
March 2011 16 (up from 6 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 51 (up from 21 YTD 2010)

9-5
March 2011 14 (up from 0 in March 2010)
YTD 2011 41 (up from 1 YTD 2010)

Total
March 2011 30 (up from 6 in 2010)
YTD 2011 92 (up from 22 in 2010)
I don’t know much about the Irish market, but it seems like people are buying Saabs again.

jelger
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Netherlands 105 Saabs (vs 46 in mar-2010)
The split has yet to come through.

Doctor Donk
Member
5 years 5 months ago

OK if closer to the end of the year SAAB won’t reach numbers they want, i will fix insurance and start crashing my Saabs everyday and order new.

rostnes
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Wonderful news, this months sales so far. I really enjoy watching these numbers, as I´m getting my all new 9-3 XWD SC next week. Keep up yhe good work!

MarkS
Member
5 years 5 months ago

This is great news, and just the beginning!

thomas
Member
5 years 5 months ago

At least DI is reporting a positive story on the sales numbers!

http://di.se/

rodmylon
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Off-topic, but Teknikens värld is pulling an interesting April’s fools joke today:
http://www.teknikensvarld.se/nyheter/110401-saab-nojespark/index.xml
A “Saab amusement-park” i to be built in Trollhättan, by unknown Russian financiers. Like Ferrari world. Seems a little suspicious taking today’s date into consideration, but a fun thought non the less 🙂

rune
Member
5 years 5 months ago

ssssssh

Dr Saab
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Really nice numbers! I love this time of month when all the numbers come. Lets hope we will see more good figures the coming days. Interesting to see GB numbers, march is a strong month over there. Go SAAB!

hogge
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Not to spoil the fun, but we only know about less than 2000 cars being sold. How many more markets are there? Even if the UK manages to sell about 900 cars like Sweden and the US, that’ll still only be less than 3000 cars. 3000 * 12= 36 000.
A far cry from 80 000 or even Antonovs 60 000!

Bazzer
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Hogge

In March 2010 Saab UK sold 1158 vehicles, I would be surprised if they did not exceed this figurein 2011 as the low Co2 93 has been advertised for a few months before Xmas and people are making purchases based on those adverts now.

Who knows we will see.

Bazzer

JasonPowell
Member
5 years 5 months ago

On the Canada numbers side of things, we really didn’t have great programs until today. April will be a telling month for Canada as we now how some deals in place that make our cash purchases very attractive and will hopefully kill the illusion of better prices south of the border. If you want to know whats being offered, check out the specials on the Springman’s Saab facebook page and I will be updating our webpage shortly as well.

zippy
Member
5 years 5 months ago

SCNA. The NA means North America. Let Canadians know Ssab is here.

Snowdriver
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Norway: 76 Saabs sold, 17 9-5s and 59 9-3s. Sales in Norway are at a record high with a 12,3% increase over March last year.

dacer
Member
5 years 5 months ago

As you say, in spain:
In Spain the car market did go down by 29% from March to March, thus a decrease by 12.5% is still kind of OK on those circumstances.

And, in spain, Jan-Mar car market, was 27,3, and Saab was +15,4
http://anfac.es/imren/turisMAR11.pdf

Saabludos

jos
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I think 9-4X and 9-5 sportscombi will boost the sales. We also got the 9-3 combi <120g coming soon.

Juerg_U
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I just ordered today my 9-5 Aero BioPower SportCombi with Hirsch Tuning. I can’t wait for September. BTW in Switzerland they have a CHF 5’200 rebate for ordering SportCombis before August 31st. So everyone in Switzerland should certainly think about it. I got a great deal and I’m really happy. So please SAAB keep up the good work and sell as much as you can 😉

theSandySaab
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Congrats to your decision to order Juerg!
I lived in CH fo 10 years and was impressed by the Saab dealers and especially the offered service. My Saab Master Tech was brilliant, very knowledgeable and service minded. If I’d be living in Switzerland, I would definitely seriously consider the current offer…

LarsG
Member
5 years 5 months ago

So far so good and I should have been satiesfied – if not for the last week. But peoples mind are short let´s hope for that and that the positive trend will continue in april.

saabyurk
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Aren’t the 9-5 numbers for Spain both “up”? It says “down”, but the numbers show “up”.

per
Member
5 years 5 months ago

The Griffin started in production line last week, and the order books open for the 9-5SC in April. Sales will continue to rise. If they can’t keep the evil press stories away. Bad press, bad press.

JasonH
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I like this spreadsheet, which shows the percentage gains Saab made here in US in March, very good…they need the 9-4x and 9-5 SC ASAP!! 🙂

aaron c
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Really curious as to why the 9-5 is selling so poorly in the US. I think Saab needs to promote the Turbo4’s fuel economy more. 33 MPG for a car that size and in that class is pretty impressive, especially with respectable performance (even if it’s only for the manual and most cars sold are automatics). I’m certain diehard enthusiasts in the 9-5 market are holding out for the SportCombi, but that’s only going to provide a blip for overall sales.

Marco
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I don’t know if Finland has been mentioned here: total sales for 03/2011: 69. YTD: 166 (50 of 166 were company cars). There were 199 sold Saabs in Finland in 2010.

Alastair
Member
5 years 5 months ago
This is an honest rant and may not be a typical situation either nationwide of globally, it is my experience at my local dealership. I am on SAAB number 18 now with being a SAAB customer now since 1980 with 17 of the 18 being bought new 16 from my local UK dealership. I have 3 of the 18 cars at this time. Out of all the 17 new SAAB’s not one single purchase was made as a result of the dealer contacting me with an offer, deal or even just a simple enquiry to determine if I was interested… Read more »
Tomas TL1000R
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Is this really true, I can´t believe that! You are a “gold customer” and they don´t even bother to lubricate (smörja) you! What are they thinking!

Alastair
Member
5 years 5 months ago

100% true Tomas……….Can’t imagine that any customer of any other brand would stay the course for this kind of service. I don’t want to get bombarded by sales enquiries but some kind of ‘value add’ would assist.

Speaks volumes for the brand that I remain attached.

jackfrost
Member
5 years 5 months ago
I don’t like what I see from SAAB in Canada at all. Firstly, there is no SAAB Canada website, this has been in the works for over a year now still nothing. The dealership in Calgary has about 4 SAABs in stock and the dealership shares half of the store with a used car dealership, hardly looks professional. I’m not spending $40,000 + on that kind of a set up. To me it doesn’t look like they want to make this run, its half a** project sorry to say. I think the money issues are still plaguing SAAB and until… Read more »
JasonPowell
Member
5 years 5 months ago
the dealership shares half of the store with a used car dealership Is the used car dealership not just part of the Saab dealership? We’re a Saab dealer in BC and at the same time we of coarse have used vehicles, that’s a way of life in the car business. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you. In addition to used cars though, I have 15 Saabs in stock right now and have 4 in my showroom as well as 11 on the lot ready to drive. The website issue is one that is constantly coming up and I really hope it’s done… Read more »
Snowdriver
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Speaking about Norway. Looks like finally selling the Turbo 6 Aero equipped 9-5 after several months for sale, has given the same dealer reason to add another one to the lot in Stavanger, Norway. http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=27695880

This car is on the market for NOK 1.151.000 or €147.300 / $209.700

aki
Member
5 years 5 months ago

This is really good news…Saab is walking and will soon be running. I think tenacity, determination and hard work will see us through. As Alistair said the relationship between customers and dealerships ist very important and there is more work to be done there.

saab93f
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Has anyone added all the numbers up? The March total, thank you 🙂

jelger
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Netherlands model split:

Saab 9-3 – 74 (43)
Saab 9-5 – 31 (3)

In brackets March-2010

Tim
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Still got a long long way to go to record sales numbers like 3322 in 2006 or even 4360 in 2000. But NL is slowly getting there…

janke
Member
5 years 5 months ago

tha saab 9-3 sales good right now but its gona drop later this year i think so the 9-5 must sell much better

rune
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Why would the 9-3 become less popular later this year?

janke
Member
5 years 5 months ago

because its rather old in many eyes and other comanys slip out new models like volvo s60 and hundai i40 ..Thats what im thinking hope i am wrong

rune
Member
5 years 5 months ago
janke: The V50 that the V60 replaces, is… Broken by design. As I have mentioned a few times here, I drove a V50 for 1000+ km in January. It was a horrible experience. This vehicle was nervous on the ice and refused to move ahead when it encountered 5 cm of snow-slush. The good ol’ 9000 had no problems. The 9000 cost me 18000 SEK + new tyres a year ago. Leather seats, spacious inside and lots and lots of power (200 bhp+). The V50 is a joke. Vi Bilägare had published a review a month ago where they commented… Read more »
janke
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I can see bymyself in the street many people bying the new volvo its very popular here in sweden.Many dont like the design but the car sells well anyway because of good repetation and people olso often by what their nabours by….

rune
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Yes, people are lazy.

And there is an incredible amount of people in Sweden buying cars that are listed as ‘unsafe’/’avoid’ in Folksam’s reports.

This situation is not helped by car journalists who refuse to test cars when the roads are not completely bare. (some notable exceptions exists, but the majority of tests seems to be conducted somewhere sunny, no?)

Hype and fashion sells. A good quality product is not enough. 🙁

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago
I think one reason for people buying the V60 is because it’s a “new” combi from Volvo. They are used to the Volvo, and continue to buy it. If you also look at the numbers for Swedish sales in March you can see a decline in numbers for the V70, and I guess that the main competitor for the V70 is actually the V60. This is for me one good reason for Saab to get the SC out there ASAP. And regarding the 9-3.. well.. the design is good, but it isn’t not as “new” as the V60-design.. and sometimes… Read more »
jelger
Member
5 years 5 months ago

@Rune – Volvo started playing with FWD in the 80s, with the 480 in 1986 as the first result, coming from the Volvo development department in… Netherlands. (rooting from DAF)

Joe___
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I’m not buying a S60 again. Steering to diffuse and design to bland for my taste. With S60II they tried to make the front cool my it ended up looking like a crocodile. Not for me. Better chances with customers looking for comfy/swaying ride a la U.S. cars.

Gajp
Member
5 years 5 months ago

March not so bad!

Twelve out of around 50 markets has reported a combined sales of 2 404 cars. We are expecting seasonal strong figures from the UK and other markets with some volume that have not yet been reported includes Germany, Belgium and France. We could expect sales of around 1 800 cars in the UK, and around 800 cars from the rest of the markets not reported. That sums up to around 5 000 cars in March globally. The figures for April and May should be even better.

hogge
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I didn’t realise that Italy was such a large market for Saab. How many cars did Saab sell during the second half of last year?

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Saab retail sales second half of 2010:
Italy – 314
World – 17792

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

The figures are in other words very good for Italy.
March – 148
Q1 – 384

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Italy is indeed an important market. And by looking how Saab is regaining there right now, it will continue to be a key market. Total sales last year in Italy was 620 cars YTD 2010, and so far in 2011 Saab has sold 406 cars, so yes it is impressive.

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Sorry, wrong number there by me. Of course YTD 2011 so far is 384 and not 406.

StefanH STHLM
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Oh how strange that looks…… 😉

UK numbers anyone? I only have this link to archived sales data.
https://www.smmt.co.uk/members-lounge/member-services/market-intelligence/vehicle-data/archived-monthly-registration-figures/

Seems to me that your supposed to pay for the latest data?
Are there any other places for this kind of info bout sales data?
I tried ACEA to see if I could get access to the different countries data but most of the countries only have a web presence in their native language. 🙂

http://www.acea.be/index.php/country_profiles/detail/sweden#text

RobinM
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Stefan the UK numbers will be on line on Wednesday.

StefanH STHLM
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Thrilling!
Do You know if the number are for free?

StefanH STHLM
Member
5 years 5 months ago

So far I have added up to 7138 sold saabs.
And that is without the numbers for March in UK, Germany, France, Denmark, Belgium and Greece. Also without Jan & Feb in Poland. Haven´t got any numbers for the Baltic countries.
And OFC the rest of the world is a white spot. Including Tasmania. 🙂

Joe___
Member
5 years 5 months ago

W.r.t. France Simonsson indicated during a Dogma style hand cam interview with some French guy during Geneva that things are on the move in the French market. They spoke about lacking dealer representation in the guy home town and Simonsson assured that there will be ad dealer there as well. For what it’s worth. Other inputs?

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Greece
9-3
March: 5
YTD: 20

9-3x
March: 2
YTD: 12

9-5
March: 11
YTD: 32

Total
March: 18 (down from 27 in 2010)
YTD: 64 (down from 83 in 2010)

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

YTD for 2011 should be 54 based on the numbers: 21 (Jan), 15 (Feb), 18 (Mar)

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Jan 30 (39)
Feb 16 (17)
Mar 18 (27)
Total 64 (83)

Link

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Interesting, because when you look at the data here and sum up those numbers they doesn’t match the ones you link to… so we should ask ourselves which data from AMVIR in Greece we should rely on.

But then on the other hand the data you show at gives us the total sum including passanger cars and taxis, while the numbers I relate to gives us only the gives the passenger car numbers.

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

From the files you linked to:
9-3 (Jan 9 Feb 8 Mar 5 YTD 22)
9-3x (Jan 7 Feb 1 Mar 2 YTD 10)
9-5 (Jan 14 Feb 7 Mar 11 YTD 32)
Total (Jan 30 Feb 16 Mar 18 YTD 64)

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Thank you for being so stubborn.. 🙂

I had a miss in the formula missing the column with the 9-3X-numbers. And yes. you are right.. YTD is 64. 🙂

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

No problem at all 🙂

martinsaab
Member
5 years 5 months ago

In Germany, Saab sold 230 cars in October 2008.
January to October: 3300 cars.

So there’s room for improvement…

Moody Saaber
Member
5 years 5 months ago
During my time of buying 30 new SAABs since #1 in 1975, I have become 10 years older than the SAAB president, about the same as Mr. Johnsson. I always kind of thought I was showing my loyalty to SAAB….IMHO more so than the guy who buys ONE and keeps it a long time. When you buy a lot of SAABs, you are helping to get them distributed out to others. Can you imagine how sales would be if more SAAB enthusiasts did that?! I’m from the era of Sten Wennlo, Runar Ekman, Albert Trommer, Bob Sinclair, and Len Lonnegren… Read more »
Thylmuc
Member
5 years 5 months ago

News of another production stop in Trollhättan this morning made it to the German radio news (I think the first radio news since Saab was sold to Muller). Does anybody know what is going on again?

AngryEngineer
Member
5 years 5 months ago

I have started on a Excel sheet with some of the numbers I could find on the site. I haven’t found all of them as you can see, but it’s a start…

EXcel-file

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Do that. We have one spanning back to 2001 for some markets. I’m working on creating a dedicated page here at SU where all numbers easily can be shown.

AngryEngineer
Member
5 years 5 months ago

The link to the document was removed, but maybe you got it?

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

No, I didn’t – but all the numbers here at SU we have. We are more searching for numbers not posted here at SU.. so we can post them here.. 🙂

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

Can’t open it. I can unzip it, but not open it. Which markets do you cover that we don’t have here? Because I think we might already have them in our documents if you have taken them from what we have gathered here.

AngryEngineer
Member
5 years 5 months ago

It’s nothing you don’t have already, but I can try to find those you don’t have. I hope you can put out a preliminary sheet public so that people can help out. It’s hard to know which numbers you miss when they are on different blog posts. 🙂

w3c validator
Guest
5 years 5 months ago

I am working on that. You have to wait until the weekend when I’ll enter a post about the thoughts for the coming “Saab Sales Data”-page here at SU, or more or less called “SSD”.

StefanH STHLM
Member
5 years 5 months ago

With Germany I summon that to appr. 7500 sold saabs.
Exkl March for UK, Denmark and Greece.

jos
Member
5 years 5 months ago

So Saab has sold approx. 9000 cars Q1, that’s not very impressive when they have stated that they will sell 80000 cars this year. They will have to more than double the sales for every quarter to be able to reach those numbers. How will that be possible?

saab93f
Member
5 years 5 months ago

The 9-5SC should count for some 20000 more alone. If Caddy sold 75k of SRX last year then 9-4x should do quite well too. Sub 120g/km 9-3´s should do their part. IMHO 80k is not out of reach even without the 9-4x.

JasonPowell
Member
5 years 5 months ago

JoS,

9000 cars Q1, that’s not very impressive

You have to remember this is the slowest 1/4 in a selling year, at least in North America. I thought the same thing until I thought of the time of year and that there are still 2 new models to come out this year. I think the targets can still be hit if they can produce the cars and not have too many suppliers hold them hostage.

Anddeu
Member
5 years 5 months ago

The numbers of Germany stil make me sad. Come on Saab!

BoeBoe
Member
5 years 5 months ago

My guess: 8.200 cars in Q1.
And the 9-5 SC will only be available in Q4 ’11 they won’t sell 20.000 cars in such a short period.

Last year Saab sold only 6/7k 9-5 Sedan’s.

turbin
Member
5 years 5 months ago

C’mon Brendan, where’s the Oz figures??? I only know there were 5 x NG9-5s registered in March. Anything else??

kaiger
Member
5 years 5 months ago

UK

1766 Saabs in March 11 +52,5%
2387 YTD 2011 + 73,58%

Did i covered it right? Source: http://www.smmt.co.uk/2011/04/emissions-achieve-all-time-low-despite-subdued-march-market/

Niklas D
Member
5 years 5 months ago

Japan 2011
Jan 6 (1)
Feb 3 (8)
Mar 10 (20)
YTD 19 (29)

Czech Republic 2011
Jan 2 (3)
Feb 2 (3)
Mar 2 (4)
YTD 6 (10)

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