Volcanic emissions and handling the twisties

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It is Friday 5pm. I’ve attended a work seminar at a hotel outside town and I need to drive 330 km to get home.

There were two alternatives for me to get to the border. Either go back through the city and stay on the highway, or take the shortest route through the country side (60 km vs 80 km).

Had it not been for the traffic, this particular road would have been a blast to drive. It was twisty and the speed limit was sometimes set up to make the ride near interesting. However, at 5pm the locals were not where they were supposed to be – at home. No, they were all lined up in front of my car, adding further delay to my progress.

The time added to my trip allowed my thoughts to wander a bit more than usual. At one point, I noticed that the main part of the queue was actually pulling away from us. An older Mercedes was unable or unwilling to keep pace, and the road was too twisty to allow slower vehicles to safely overtake him. It was time for me to demonstrate the power of the mighty 9000. My 9000 is probably as old as that Mercedes, but the 9000 was built as a modern car and is more than just a mere heap of metal on wheels.

As I whipped past the three cars separating us, I noticed the Mercedes coughed out a big black plume of smoke. Not only was that Mercedes slower, less safe and uglier, it was also polluting much more. The difference needs not to be measured, as it was clearly visible to the naked eye. I briefly considered calling the air traffic controllers in the nearby airport and issue a volcano warning, but the heavy particles in its exhaust seemed to stay fairly close to the ground.

Saab have been making environmentally friendly cars for decades now. Don’t believe me?

spikeieos e-mailed us earlier this month with the following tale:

passed!

I recently purchased a low mileage 1992 classic 900 from this older gentleman who could no longer drive. Its got somewhat of a smelly tail pipe and I was worried about the car passing emissions. I ran the car long and hard to make the catalytic converter nice and hot and went by my local emissions place. I live in New Mexico, USA. Our emissions are not terribly stringent to say the least: all cars from 1975 and on must meet the same low emissions standards. I waited with anticipation until I got my results and the guy had a funny look on his face. I asked him if I passed and got a “well YEAH! Your car pollutes about the same as a Toyota Prius.” I was sort of shocked to hear my almost 20 year old car with the original catalytic converter would be so low. I know if you look at other aspects of how this car pollutes I am sure its bad, and I have read threads on SaabCentral about people in California having issues passing. But I was happy to see that for what my state considers important on certain pollution aspects this car is very green.

Which of course reminded me of Saab’s promotional video for the trionic system. If you ever wondered what would happen if you hooked up the Saab 92 to the 9000’s intake manifold… Well, you need look no further:

(An old story for the enjoyment of new readers)

spacy
Guest
Nice read on a sunny Sunday afternoon (even though I’ve been out in the Sunniness) of the UK Having had 11 9k’s all the way from a 1985 2.0i to my current & last 98MY 2.3t anniversary, I agree, even at this date the 9k is still one great car. I also have a 9.5 aero estae MY04, but still think the 9k, has an edge. Mine does however have Aero suspension & interior + a Maptune stage 1 upgrade…….. so nealy holds it’s own with my 9.5. I use a MOT garage for the 9k that like the classics… Read more »
TukanSaab
Member

A simple question: Why do the new Saab’s not use Trionic? Isn’t this one of the great Saab SAAB features and engineering VM speaks about so much?

JukkaH
Member

Hmm. Interesting question, but the funny thing is that they use Trionic, now. 2011 9-5 and 9-3 griffin apparently use a system which is basically a Trionic. The bigger problem is anyhow the fact that Saab most likely does not have the required people anymore with them to develop it further. But, who knows what really happens in the future. Otoh, the upcoming 1.6 bmw engine might use whatever bwm uses for it.

TukanSaab
Member

I know my Saab 93 60th Ann. uses Trionic 8 as do the 2011 93s but the new 95 and the 220bhp Turbo4 use Bosch Motronic…

JukkaH
Member

I have no access to actual facts so that I could check it but according to what for example has been written here in SU, only 2010 model of 9-5 uses motronic. 2011 uses so called Saab System 3, which is effectively a trionic 9…

Polle
Member

A simple answer: Money… Developing an Engine Management System costs a lot of money and GM has never supported this. Trionic 9 has been in the pipeline but was cancelled sue to the high cost. Buy a system of the Bosch-shelf is more cost effective and at this stage as advanced as any other system. Maybe if they can ever reanimate the SCC or SVC development, it would be worth it.
And don’t worry, the skill within the Saab development team is extremely high and not inferior to our competitors. Budget is the only limit…

xlx
Member

fine reading after all the China yes/no, VA yes/no and all the high emotional stuff …

spacy
Guest

Saabeemer…..oh dear

rune
Member

That is one way to look at it. But that ICE will be combined with the e-AAM system which I like to think of as the new heart of Saabs to come.

NorthOfAtlanta
Member
This post brought back memories of when we were an inspection station here in Atlanta. The Georgia State Patrol monitored all stations and it was totally manual in that we filled out the forms by hand. The officer had just checked calibration on our equipment and gone to the office to get that months paper work. As we were a new station and he new nothing about SAAB it was about 5 min later he came back and ask why several of them had 0.0 CO and 0.00 HC on them and I explained that’s what they read. I was… Read more »
spacy
Guest

With BWW starting to build front wheel drive cars & Saab buying engines from BMW, where does that leave Saab in the market place!!.

The problem I see, is BMW making FWD cars indicates they no longer stand by the therory RWD only. Technically FWD are cheaper to producce than RWD cars, so Saab could be infor alot of competition…..

rune
Member

terry9000k,

BMW said the next mini would be FWD. The 3-series and 5-series will still be RWD, right?

In any case, Saab is left with first dibs at e-AAM, the most advanced AWD system in the market place.

Börjesson
Member

It will only be the most advanced system in the marketplace if Saab manage to bring it to said marketplace when originally planned, in the autumn of 2012. If the rumoured delays become reality, then the herd will catch up and Saab will lose one of its key selling points for the NG 9-3.

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