Antonov hasn’t been approved by the Swedish Government yet

Ttela.se says that the Swedish government will approve Antonov as owner of Saab in a few days.

There has been a problem with GM, but this information seems to be classified, but this problem is now solved,and the government can now say yes to Antonov.

Does that mean the government approves the Antonov?

– If the problems are solved so … A clearance is imminent, I would think in a few days, but maybe not this week.

Donge
Member
5 years 2 months ago

F-i-n-a-l-l-y.

robert
Member
5 years 2 months ago

About time, damn.

Audun
Member
5 years 2 months ago

True, it isn’t done before it’s done. I think we all expect it to be done ASAP.

Börjesson
Member
5 years 2 months ago

When Eric Geers says that Saab has orders for more than 10 000 cars – does anybody know if that includes the 9-4X in Mexico? The same size of the backlog was mentioned in the media a month or so ago, but at that time I know that Mexico was included. It would be great if it’s excluded this time, meaning that a few thousand new orders have come in in the meantime.

BoeBoe
Member
5 years 2 months ago

It also includes the 9-4X. They did this before (when Pang Da gave money).

They split it up in orders for the 9-4X and orders for Trollhättan.

Börjesson
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Sounds like what you’re saying is that it included the 9-4X last time. I already knew that. Do you have any indication if it is the same this time as well? (Last time, both an all-inclusive figure of 10 000 and a Trollhättan-only figure of, I think, 6 000 were mentioned, so there’s no obvious way of telling at face value which type of number this new one is.)

BoeBoe
Member
5 years 2 months ago

It is very difficult to know what “an order” is.

Is it an order when a customer orders a new Saab? (what most people think)
Or is it an order when a dealer (or importer) orders a new car? (when you don’t know if they already sold it)

And almost all the large importers are owned by Saab (US, UK, Sweden etc) so it is easy to order cars for them (on paper).

As long as we don’t know if there orders are wholesale or retail orders the number of 10.000 doesn’t say a lot to me.

jond
Member
5 years 2 months ago
Also, does it really matter what the orders are at this point of time? True customer orders will have been completely decimated by the recent uncertainty regarding Saab’s future and will be no indication of the potential when production restarts and customers gradually regain confidence. What matters, surely, is the speed of recovery to a break-even level of sales. It may take years before the brand properly recovers and we can see whether or not they are actually able to exceed break-even. As I understand it Saab need about 10,000 units sold per month to reach that point. Until that… Read more »
Börjesson
Member
5 years 2 months ago

As Jonas Fröberg stated in a chat earlier this week, Saab has said they will reach a break-even point of 80 000 cars already next year. I don’t think we can reasonably expect it to go even lower than that – nor should it need to.

ANA
Member
5 years 2 months ago

THIS IS A JOKE!
The Swedish government have been completely useless at managing this situation and now that they are under pressure they have decided to pull their finger out so they don’t appear to have let down Saab! I really hope someone writes a book and exposes the incompetence of these guys. Either way they will have lost support as a result of this….

Motoradd's Cat
Member
5 years 2 months ago

It may be a joke, but thanks to all of us and the Saab friendly Journalists, the Swedish Government has been backed into a corner and the truth is hopefully about to come out.

The thing I find most interesting is Maud and her issue with windmills, then we find out that her Son has something to do with making windmills. I think this represents a conflict of interest to such a degree that Saab has been put into this current situation.

I hope some diligent Swedish Journalist can dig a bit deeper to see if this is the case.

Audun
Member
5 years 2 months ago

+1

sandborg
Guest
5 years 2 months ago

Maud really needs to move along and find a job that suits her.

goofy
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Tell Motoradd to give you a kitty treat and a scratch behind the ears.

CR
Member
5 years 2 months ago

I think that WE, the Saab´s community, should exercise a direct and noisy pressure against this kind of unfair facts regarding Saab. In this case, for example, with car concentrations in front of the ministry offices, etc.

We should learn how to organize ourselves and exercise pressure against whatever unfair facts regarding Saab. We have to fight for SAAB. All together have the necessary power to influence. We have already seem before.

Greetings from Spain.

SAAB UPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!

katar1na
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Agree with all of you.

But I feel so ashame to be swedish 🙁 luckily halfblood.

At least driving the right car…

I like the idea of having a “noicy demonstration”… we need to find a suitable forum for this and organize it well. Will be fun!

TurboLover
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Well, both The Swedish Governmnet and Saab are from Sweden…., so maybe your 1/2 is made of pure Saab 🙂

Tripod
Member
5 years 2 months ago
The best “demonstration” to all naysayers out there is break even in sales; noisy demonstrations are of course fun, and “uniting”; but if there’s no break even, it will not look good. So, now it’s time for some real marketing, and everyone can do their bit. People should know: that Saab exists; that it is and has been a class leader in safety, its power vs. emissions (180 & 119g CO2), that it’s a pure joy to drive and has a unique design, that it has been and always will be at the forefront of innovations (you do know all… Read more »
Audun
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Very good strategy!
When I´m in a talk about cars I always mention the new Saab models with high power and low emission, and that you can´t get that from BMW or Audi.
I mention the eAAM, and I´ll start mention this: “And to the naysayers: “Wondered why Saab is still around? Take a test drive and you will understand why!”” 🙂

Tilley
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Looking from the outside, I really thought Sweden was different than the rest of the world (including government). Now, because of all the government versus SAAB stuff, my perception has changed drastically. Thankfully SAAB is still SAAB.

Ruben NL
Member
5 years 2 months ago

I feel with you, Tilley. I had this image inside my head of Swedish politicians….. Turns out that they are humans too, just like Dutch politicians. Amongst them one can find the strangest characters. Luckily our PM has driven Saab for a long time, and maybe he still does when he makes a private tour 🙂

Audun
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Stefan Lövén had a talk with Vladimir Antonov: http://ttela.se/ekonomi/saab/1.1272127-saabs-ursprung-viktigt-for-antonov
The origin of Saab is important to Antonov…

Jonas Axelsson
Member
5 years 2 months ago

So is production going to start on July 4’th as predicted?

GerritN
Member
5 years 2 months ago

The 4th of July is a holiday, Saab independence day. Hm, I’m a bit confused today….pass the space cookies!

tobbe
Member
5 years 2 months ago
RS
Member
5 years 2 months ago

Maybe the NDRC representatives demanded Chinese cars.

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