I am missing nationalism (The Swedish government is not like other governments)

Tompa asked me to post the following article from di.se:

I’m missing nationalism

He diqualifies the governments actions when it comes to Saab.

Head of the Automotive components group (FKG) Sven Åke Berglie also think that Minister of Enterprise Maud Olofsson shows uninterest and lacks skills of leadership.

When Sven Åke Berglie sums up his twelve years as Head of FKG, his critique is anything but mild.

Berglie is retiring in the beginning of September. He’s been through record-breaking years like in 2007 only to the year after lead the organization through an almost bottomless depression in the wake of the financial crisis.

Berglie has been the face and spokesperson for the more anonymous sub contractors when Saab’s, Volvo’s and Scania’s ordeals have been lifted in the media. He has been straight forward in questions and has always seen to be available.

How does he grade the Reinfeldt government and its actions through the years of crisis?

During the financial crisis Minister of Finance Anders Borg, and his coworkers, did a brilliant job. But we would have liked to see a Minister of Enterprise that at least had cared of our sector, but my thoughts are that she hasn’t. It feels a bit strange. We missed leadership during the crisis.

What grade does he give?
F

How do you think Maud Olofsson has handled Saab?
It begun with some strange statements about instead building Windmills in Trollhättan.. Yet again I’m missing leadership

What is wrong with Antonov? Berglie asks rhetorically.

If I’d been Anders Borg, I’d be pinning the EIB up against the wall. Bo Lundgren of the NDO worked swiftly and approved Antonov, says Berglie and wonders why the government isn’t following the directives from it’s own expert authority.

In your opinion, why is the government ambivalent in this matter?
It feels like there is a Hidden Agenda. But there might be no such thing. But if no information is handed that only leads to suspicion

What would you like to see from the politicians?
I’m missing, lets say, a bit of nationalism. To see what might be good for Sweden. As an example Sweden has stricter rules for endorsements to research than what the EU stipulates.

On a related note: I do not want to promise too much, but I’ve been told we will see some additional criticism of the government the coming week. The question is no longer what the government can do for Saab, but rather what they have actively done to make life difficult for Saab. We have hinted at these things in the past, but now a couple of djup strupes have come forward with some damning evidence that we are currently trying to verify. I am confident Saab will have all the pieces in place shortly, but it will not be thanks to the government. It will be in spite of certain elements within the government. Mr Berglie is being very diplomatic in his assessment above. That is unfortunately the extent of what I can say at this time. To be continued…

Jasper
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Jasper

Regarding Maud Olofsson:
It is indeed much more and much deeper than strange statements and a lack of nationalism on her part.
She goes out of her way to critisize and jab at SAAB every opportunity that she gets.
One day some very clever reporter will find out the truth regarding her utter disregard and disrespect for this brand and the very fine SAAB employees. My speculation is that it is something very personal to her.

tompa
Member
Frankly, it´s not just Saab that is looked down on. It´s the Automotive Industry as such. (Even the Industry as such) Volvo has had their share of negative remarks from the Minestry of Enterprise/Industry aswell. Only they have not been in the same position as Saab is in now. It´s easier to kill the small and injured than the big and healthy. I´m not going into politics more today, but would rather look back at Tim´s 9-3X post because it deals with the fundementals… Saabs beautiful cars. BUT it is important to know of every aspect regarding this whole farce… Read more »
Tripod
Member

I don’t think it’s all about the Minister of Enterprise, though I do indeed agree with Mr. Berglie; there is also the PM and the Minister of Finance, both from the same party; they have quite a lot to say … in the government, and have shown no interest whatsoever.

Peter Gilbert
Member
This is definitely a political issue and unfortunately indicative of Socialist governments worldwide. We had a revolution here in Wisconsin since November 2010. We went from a $3+ billion dollar deficit to last week’s $3 million surplus. Our new free-market legislature cut waste but most importantly they made the state accessible for business. We were 47th, now we are 24th, which is remarkable for several months. Just last week this article on the wonders of Sweden appeared in the Washington Post. But there is a huge disparity between the article and what happened to SAAB since March. The indifference to… Read more »
Tripod
Member

I think you’ll have to rethink that when it comes to Sweden. But it’s so easy to blame anything on the “socialists”; do you even have such in the US? For a very long time it’s been the Social Democrats in the Swedish government, for example during the years after WW II, when the Swedish industry expanded heavily; the Swedish Social Democrats have always worked together with the industry, in one way or the other. As for now, this is a liberal-right-wing government (centre-right coalition; compared to the centre-left Social Democrats).

Nate 9-3
Member

I said it months ago and it looks to be true – SAAB is caught swimming upstream against the globalists’ agenda. FR, MO, AB and the EIB are trying to make an example out of SAAB. My advice – SAAB has always bucked the trend. SAAB should keep SAABing and buck this trend.

I cannot wait to see what it is that VM is up against. Maybe he will feel the most vindicated of all.

matsthn
Member
As a Swede I’m so PO’d about the “goodie goodie” attitude of Swedish government, I did vote for them but I had so much higher hopes. If it was german car company in crisis there’s be all sorts of actions, public and non public to help them out and save german jobs. We swedes just abide the ‘rules’ and let our jobs and companies slip away… NOONE IS GOING TO SEND US A THANKYOU NOTE ! I would just sooo much love to see someone in the goverment step up to the plate and say “This is important to Sweden… Read more »
spacy
Guest

You only have to look at the UK……to agree!!

Years of the Labour Goverment (the previous Party of the Workers) could not care less about their voters anymore…. just loads of Corporate ££££’s….until the crunch came & they all run like hell & leave the country they have fleeced to rot in a pile of debt….

BRING ON THE SERVICE INDUSTRY SWEDEN……you know where it will end.

900 classic cab
Guest
A few years ago the European Union “paid” us to kill our productive sectors and set our target to services. Look where we are now (Portugal). I feel sorry for so many hard working swedes that are proud to work on the automotive industry (SAAB, Scania, Volvo…), with such interesting brands and products, without having the right recognition of their government. Of course I believe that companies must be profitable, but if they stop to try to kill SAAB, I’m sure it will survive and continue to amaze us for the future with the safety, innovation features and beauty of… Read more »
Coke is it
Member

+1

or make that +1000 instead.

Peter Gilbert
Member
Khrisdk
Member
Just for information regarding this article and your previous comment: The swedish government most surely not socialist. It is the most right-wing ideology at its peak here That being said all scandinavians are Social-Democrats wether they like it or not. When we are talking Neo-Liberalism (Right Wing in Europe) we are not talking in differences like in the US. We are talking a little bit of semi-privatisation of public services, and if our max. taxation should be 65% or 80% The welfare state is not questioned in any way. The typical right wing voter will expect to be able to… Read more »
Peter Gilbert
Member

I just found this related story from the UK Daily Express. How if your company doesn’t have economic clout then the EU will stab you in the back.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/257666

spacy
Guest

This subject really pi**ed me off recently….

One day our MP Ian Duncan-Smith, was in Spain claiming British jobs for \British workers….& the next, a British manufacturing Co (although not British owned) looses Thousands of Jobs to the EU….again.

Another lovely sell out By our previous LABOUR Goverment………Absolutely DISGRACEFUL

spacy
Guest

It also makes me wonder how much GERMANY has to do with SAABS’ political problems within the EU.

Nate 9-3
Member

BINGO! EU = Germany 4.0. UK and France are to ride the coattails. All other nations, including the Sweden, are ancillary.

Khrisdk
Member
I wouldn’t count on the germans having any fingers in this. All of the strange things going on in most cases involving EU is that it is a strange construction. One one hand it is a sharing of market and economy, driven by the free market idea. In the other hand it is a highly regulatory organ with its fingers in almost eveything regarding economy qua the Euro. And they wouldn’t mind getting even more political influence in the Commision. Every major government project in EU has to be out in licitation. The best offer wins. At the moment the… Read more »
aki
Member

One thing is for sure. There are some car companies who would not mind if Saab disappeared and have the market for themselves. The swedish gov. should realise this and not only facilitate Saabs effort they should not make believe that they are throwing tax money away….just give Saab a break and don`t make life tough for them. They should go and get some advice from the Germans and French and for that matter the American government. This is disgraceful.

JasonPowell
Member
Sorry if someone else has already pointed this out and I think I have previously myself, but I don’t understand these idiots (the government). I think that Saab, Volvo and all their suppliers need to get together and push this government. It seems that some suppliers are only worried about getting what is owed by Saab and not seeing the big picture here that is that just because they are not having struggles with the Government like Saab is, it could be just as easily them in this position. Because of the Governments lack of getting involved or making decisions,… Read more »
JH
Member

In that article Sven-Åke Berglie says almost exactly what I am thinking, +1 to him!

ivo 71
Member

Doesn’t Sweden have something like an Association of Automotive Industry? And if it does, why don’t they close the ranks and start putting some pressure on the government? Or is it just not in the nature of the Swedes to do that? I simply can’t imagine that the Swedes just stand there and watch one of their key industries, crown jewels if you will, going down the drain.

Ivo

zippy
Member
Am I to assume that Maud and Freddie are actually hardcore capitalists who think that anything that doesnt make money should be obliterated whatever the cost to Swedish society? Surely not in Sweden with its cradle-to-grave social policies. 😉 If “free market” America can support GM surely Swedish politicians should offer help to their auto industry. Just image the massive social and economic damage to the Swedish economy if car manufacturers and, by default, their suppliers ceased to exist. I bet if you were to take a total of all staff at Saab, Ovlov and all their suppliers you’d be… Read more »
Nissi
Member
The knowledge about facts for Swedish industry seems to be at an astonishing low level here at SU. So once again, let´s look at some facts about Swedish industry, and which segments the Swedish government has given top priority. Swedish car industry does not belong to these for the next ten years and the Swedish governments silence certainly is no hidden agenda, but only continuation of a successful Swedish strategy (from all Swedish governments for decades), based on the facts that especially Volvo cars and SAAB, today add only limited small amounts to the Swedish Gross National Product compared to… Read more »
rune
Member
First of all Nissi… This round isn’t about government handouts. The question concerns the ownership structure of Saab. For some reason, despite NDO’s approval, the government and EIB are still reluctant to allow Antonov a stake in Saab. They would rather see Saab shut down. That means that the Swedish government are taking an active part in shutting down Saab. 4000 jobs in THN out the window, plus approx 6000 jobs elsewhere. Are you suggesting these people should find employment in the successive forrest industry you mentioned? Please explain to me: The government’s active act of sabotage serves what purpose..?… Read more »
ryanonsrc
Member
Yes Rune. There is a world of difference between a government offering financial assistance to a corporate entity and actively interferring with its operation. I understand that it is arguable as to whether or not a government should subsidize a private entity with public funds (I am honestly torn on that issue myself). Thus, if the goverment refusses to offer financial assistance then I would expect them to be doing so to avoid expending public funds on the private sector. Yet, they turn around and expend public funds to interfere with their business instead? That is hypocracy at a level… Read more »
Red J
Member

Nissi,
sorry but, you want to tell me that the industry sectors in Sweden with the brightest future are lumber-jacks and mining?
Sorry but it looks to me like a cul-de-sac, as the Irish say.

And BTW, if Swedish mining companies would pay for the environment destroyed outside Sweden their financial situation would look different.

I know some industry sectors, and the car industry, because of the short cycles of their products is at the forefront in many aspects. Loosing a national car industry, means loosing knowledge in such important fields like CAD-CAM-CAE.

Khrisdk
Member

The short version of what you are saying:

We will produce more with less people employed, and the rest can live off that?

You are leaving out the number of people on welfare in your calculations.
As long as there is just balance in the import/export account aka a flat 0, you have kept people employed, thus keeping the need for taxes down.

Or do you expect the hi-tech industries incl. your forest industry ,to keep employing more and more people?
That would go against their very nature and .make them uncompetitive.

tompa
Member
You are making One really big misstake here… The Swedish government has told us, the people, that the industry has to support itself and the goverment (state really) should not support with funding… Noone and noone with either Saab or Conversgroup has been nocking on the governments door to have the assist with money but only help to be able to run Saab according to the businessplan. A plan where Mr Vladimir Antonov is a piece of the puzzle. Had the government stuck to it’s own principles and listened to the NDO and GM, that has approved of Mr Antonov,… Read more »
Börjesson
Member
Nissi, you keep repeating that figure of “only 4 billion SEK” in comment after comment, but I have yet to see you provide a source for it. It would be interesting to see just what it represents. My theory is that it says that the value of all cars and car parts exported from Sweden exceeds all the imported ditto by 4 billion. If so, then it is a completely insane argument you’re trying to make. You see, if we stopped building vehicles in Sweden, we would still be driving and transporting goods to almost exactly the same extent, but… Read more »
Khrisdk
Member

Hmm..somehow I get the feeling that Swedish Government forgets to read a lot of stuff they commision 😉
I like your Googling Börjesson

zippy
Member

I remember the days when ABBA were the second biggest Swedish export.

tompa
Member

Haha, pretty darn funny coincidence Regarding the Nutek publication. I mailed Rune the link for that Nutek Pdf sometime in the afternoon yesterday.

Cheers

ivo 71
Member
@ Nissi, I have been looking up some of your earlier posts on SU. Although written in an authoritative tone of voice, many of them contain imho misleading or ‘personalized’ interpretations of certain data or quote unnamed sources. Plus they are often either directly or indirectly apologetic regarding mrs. Olofssons ministry. I’m beginning to wonder if you are by any chance connected to mrs. Olofssons PR department. If you are, no problem, but it would be decent of you to say so. If you are not then you need to at least clean up your act as regards the data,… Read more »
Chris Hansel
Member
Dear Nissi: Here is the problem with your concept of what is really happening. The Chinese and Koreans will work cheaper, harder, and have the same skill level as you and other EU countries. To their credit the Germans know this and are they only ones working like hell to stay ahead of the curve. On top of that, unlike your government, they, the far eastern nations, have governments that will openly practice protectionism and then lie about it to your leaders. In other words, you are playing against a dealer who has 4 aces up his sleeve. Case in… Read more »
jelger
Member

we can all blab about governments this or that, but with every money costing poo of the government it is also “from my taxmoney!! scandalous!!” retorics all over from the respective taxpayers… you can’t have it both ways.

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