Pang Qingnian: Captain of the coach

Muppen has found a very interesting video on the net. It is about Mr. Pang Qingnian, the head of the Youngman Group.

It is very interesting as it shows how he managed to evolve from building bicycle tyres to building 90% of all the luxury coaches that drive in China.

This video must be from 2009, or early 2010 and thus it is very interesting to hear at the end what are his plans for the Youngman car division.If this is what he pretends to do with a sub-brand based on Saab technology, then Saab has a bright future, as Saab will be able to deliver and so he will be able to pay the bills. 😉

Troels, Denmark
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4 years 10 months ago

Interesting, I must say…

Bravada from GMI
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4 years 10 months ago

I think by 2011, he would straightforwardly admit his Proton-based strategy failed, because the Chinese market has moved on. This is why he wants to be the first in Chinese luxury automobile production, leapfrogging ahead of others by purchasing Saab.

Given that buses and coaches are bought by corporations, local, regional and national authorities, as well as state-run and state-controlled entities primarily, Pang has to have a considerable clout with them to be able to sell 90% of China’s coaches. This bodes well for Saab sales 🙂

ivo 71
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4 years 10 months ago
I think they mentioned 70% of all LUXURY coaches in China, they apparently don’t build the standard buses for public mass transportation. But it is still very impressive as his is apparently the only enterprise in the Chinese coach industry that is not state owned. My ambiguity is somewhat diminishing. Apparently, the guy is a ‘macher’, although one should not only judge by a bit of ‘capitalist agitprop’. Or a long pictorial advertorial which Youngman probably paid for themselves. That said, I still cannot help being pissed off by the way they tried to hijack Saab for a ridiculous price.… Read more »
Bravada from GMI
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4 years 10 months ago

They do build buses for the mass transportation, the 1600 buses that China used in the Olympic Games ranged from metro buses to luxury coaches.

See here:

http://www.neoplan.com.cn/cp.asp

China Youngman is indeed the largest bus and coach manufacturer in China by a mile now.

ivo 71
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4 years 10 months ago
Went through the site, too. You are right, apologies. Those city buses look a bit old-fashioned but are probably ultramodern in comparison to other bus models there. And some of their luxury coaches are pretty slick-looking. Interesting: not one word about the Saab negotiations and the current MoU anywhere in the whole website. I suppose they are waiting until the deal is finalized. If it collapses they can remain silent and will lose less face. BTW, they sure could use a good rewrite of the English site. Maybe I will shoot them an email… If they say yes then there… Read more »
SaabKen
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4 years 10 months ago

Yeah I thought that was hilarious too !!

CSD_ChineseSaabDriver
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4 years 10 months ago

Amazing, that’s a true story of how a Chinese peasant boy could become a billionair in such a short time.

Youngman Lotus is a sport sedan, now Youngman Saab for Chinese market is again a sport sedan (mostly), I am pretty confident Pang Qinnian will succeed again.

till72
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4 years 10 months ago

Really interesting.

Chris_de_Ze
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4 years 10 months ago

He is a courageous man of vision believing quality comes always first.
He is the best person to drive Saab into success.
However, his vision about Saab is closely related to China’s market.
Let’s wait and see.
And I think that he will keep Victor around.

Troels, Denmark
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4 years 10 months ago

Seen in the perspective that mr. Pang Qingnian was opening for in the final part of the video, I came to think about what a huge responsibility Saab can get on their shoulders to develop environment-friendly car-technology and -production … If any car-maker can give a qualified answer to this responsibility it will be Saab! So Saab: You have to strengthen this track in the development and innovation even more!!!! (and that will for sure pay back in all markets!)

spacy
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4 years 10 months ago
SaabKen
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4 years 10 months ago

Dunno about the rest of you guys, but the cockpit of the typical Scania bus (or truck) excites me so much since it’s SO C900-esque:

SaabKen
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4 years 10 months ago

Two more:

spacy
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4 years 10 months ago

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900_S
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4 years 10 months ago

Makes me more confident that PDYM is the right group for the job. Seems like Victor found Saab a good home 🙂

Katsura
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4 years 10 months ago
We’ll see, if he can let the Swedish team do their work without unnecessary interference. A lot of Chinese home grown business can not get over the hurdle of too much input from the owner (and family – it is pretty much run like a dynasty). It will be fine for him to give company business strategy input, but if he has a hand in everything, including design language, engineering, this will soon turn into a disaster Their previous self developed car products were ugly as battered crab, the design language is very typical Shanzai (look up that word). Hope… Read more »
mnztr
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4 years 10 months ago

Very impressive. I respect his desire to build a superior product at a good price. That leads me to believe even Chinese made SAABs will be good cars. A very impressive man… from orphan to cattle herder to Vehicle manufacturing mogul…. how on earth does one go that far in life…

krghanta
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4 years 10 months ago

I hope Mr. Pang will find a good CEO (hopefully European) like Geely did with Volvo to run SAAB. Youngman should take the strategy of Geely…own Volvo but let Volvo run itself. Youngman must do that, let SAAB run itself just provide cash that’s all SAAB needs….money and it will run itself. Overall I am optimistic if this deal goes through.

Youngman has competition in the coach industry. King Long, which is another coach/bus company from China and they export as well. These Chinese companies have funny names.

fido
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4 years 10 months ago

Mr.Pang’name is 庞青年, 青年(Qingnian) is name, 庞(Pang) is surname. i think he use his name as company name. 青年 in english means young man.

King Long is transliteration of 金龙, in chinese, it means golden dragon.

Tripod
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4 years 10 months ago

Ni hao, fido,
That is the impression I have got, it’s his name; “young man” (or perhaps “youth”; “ungdom” in the latter case, in Swedish). Good to have it confirmed by you.

fido
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4 years 10 months ago

tripod, ni hao.

Mr. Pang Qingnian(庞青年) use his name as company name, i think there are a variety of meanings.
first, ‘青年’ is his name, second, in chinese, ‘青年’ means youth, maybe he wish his company will always
like a young man, can always learn and growth. like his parents expect of him. so he merge young & man to create a new word as his company english logo ‘youngman’

saaburban
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4 years 10 months ago
Fido, ni hao As we all now Saab brand has à red griffin as logo. What does it mean in a Chinese context? This is what wikipedia say: The griffin, griffon, or gryphon (Greek: γρύφων, grýphōn, is a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head and wings of an eagle. As the lion was traditionally considered the king of the beasts and the eagle was the king of the birds, the griffin was thought to be an especially powerful and majestic creature. The griffin was also thought of as king of the creatures. Griffins are known… Read more »
fido
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4 years 10 months ago
@saaburban we don’t have griffin in chinese legendary. when we first saw it, we will be very curious. We feel it is very sacred and mighty.Very impressive. They began to become interested in SAABs. imagine we are driving on highway, A very beautiful car overtake us, we see the Griffin logo on the rear. ‘Wow, what’s that? What is this car? What brand?” then we will try to find the answer. sooner or later, we will find it’s a SAAB. such feeling is very different from when we first saw BMW, Benz and Audi’s logo. so starting from the first… Read more »
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4 years 10 months ago

This quote from Pang is music to my ears:

repeats are insignificant

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