OFF-TOPIC: 22 Saabs sold to Switzerland today


Delivery is not yet set for the 22 Saab 39 Gripen planes that will be part of the Swiss Air Force.

Great for Sweden and the Saab brand. Will Hirsch make a fighter Saab now?

Here is Saab AB´s press release

The Swiss government has decided to select Gripen as its future multirole fighter aircraft for the Swiss Air Force.

Given that Switzerland is known globally for applying highest procurement standards and requesting state-of-the art technologies, Saab is both proud and delighted that Gripen has been chosen as the Swiss Air Force’s future multirole fighter aircraft.

“The Swiss type-selection confirms that Saab is a market-leader in the defence and security industry and that Gripen is a world-class fighter system that provides the best value for money”, says Håkan Buskhe, President and CEO Saab.

The Gripen programme will create a long-term partnership betweenSwitzerlandandSweden. Saab assuresSwitzerlanda long-term strategic industrial co-operation aimed at creating sustainable high tech jobs, transferring technology and generating export business.

Saab stands prepared to start negotiations and await the next steps of the process.

Gripen is in service with the Swedish, Czech Republic, Hungarian, South African and Royal Thai Air Forces. The UK Empire Test Pilots’ School (ETPS) is operating Gripen as its advanced fast jet platform for test pilots worldwide. Saab is also delivering successful industrial co-operation programmes in Czech Republic, Hungary and South Africa.

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Guest
4 years 9 months ago

It will be nice to see the Gripen at the AXALP with live fire someday 🙂

lundin
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4 years 9 months ago

Did my military service in the air force and worked with JAS39. Great fighter.There are many details that could be carried over to Saab vehicles,such as the data-stick with route planing and route-recording. Would be great to have a small USB together with IQon full of gadgets =)

phermansson
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4 years 9 months ago

Nice, Me too! =) Was at F7 Air Force Base back in 2000-2001, where were you?

lundin
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4 years 9 months ago

Really!! What a nice suprise Tim! I was also at F7 in HK-02. Actually i remember seeing a guy here at SU (he use to help running the SU events,fixing with the computers etc) that was in the HK-01 troops. I have also seen him at Saab (it think he worked on the assembly line).

Good to know =)

74StingSaab
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4 years 9 months ago

🙂 we need this instead of our POS F-22

lundin
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4 years 9 months ago
I knew you would chime in on this thread 74Sting =) Oh, that POS has some is quite advanced radar-systems (if active) ongoing, hasn’t it =) As much as the discussion going on in US with the F22 Vs competitor debate,the very holds true here in Sweden.Depending on the situation,ie dogfight,weapons carried,numbers of planes up,active vs non active systems etc i *think* the outcome is not always given. But yeah the F22 seems to be a helluva good attack-plane but i am not sure it can carry all the long-distant robots it really needs.For obvious reason you can really comment… Read more »
lundin
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4 years 9 months ago

Oops…should had been “For obvious reason you can’t really comment on the topic, that’s ok” =)

74StingSaab
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4 years 9 months ago

I have only ever done a “walk around” on one and while it is impressive, the down time for maintenance (at last report I saw) was quite saddening. The F-22 has been plagued with TCTO’s and One Time Inspections some as soon as they hit the fleet. I wont even comment about the pilot that needed to be “cut” out when the canopy system failed on a jet that was less than 3 years old. Maybe at 36 Im getting old and cranky… and miss my A-10’s.

The F22, Yeah, It’s capable, but so was the ME262.

lundin
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4 years 9 months ago

Yeah i heard about that maintenance “issue”. Thanks for the story =) Then i will not tell you about all the non-conventional tools i used during some refueling=) But overall maintenance, like theSandySaab said, maintenance and high availability if one of the good points.

74StingSaab
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4 years 9 months ago
Oh… after 17+ years working on the A-10 and a few years on the F-16… I have performed some maintenance not found in any tech manual!. Allow me to say one thing that I am dang proud of. When I was “on location” in a sandy area a few years ago, we had and maintained a FMC ( fully mission capable) rate for all A-10s on station for over a week… something never done before. As a unit of “weekend warriors” we were pretty darn proud of that. My specialty was Egress, Loved that job, still love aircraft. Nothing beats… Read more »
Olav
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4 years 9 months ago

+1!

theSandySaab
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4 years 9 months ago
Good news! I lived for 10 years in Switzerland as they decided to buy the FA18, which is a great airplane but a complete overkill for the small European country. I am convinced there were some shady deals/kickbacks when the FA18 deal was signed. I was told by swiss air force personell at the time that the FA18 would probably be used mostly for command functions and less for active theatre duty, and that they would keep the aging F5s as spearheads…(???) The Saab Gripen JAS-39 is perfectly suited for the Swiss environment and will prove itself in the years… Read more »
OliverH
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lundin
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4 years 9 months ago

MOU *or whatever* sounds familiar =)

TurboLover
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4 years 9 months ago

Don’t belive GM will accept this deal…

OliverH
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4 years 9 months ago

+1 😉

hans h
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4 years 9 months ago

😀

dcpattie
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4 years 9 months ago

How does the JAS Grippen 39 compare to the Eurofighter or Raffale?

robban
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4 years 9 months ago

Well, look at the results in Red Flag and similar exercises. And if you start looking at the total costs it’s a no-brainer.

74StingSaab
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4 years 9 months ago

Red Flag… cake walk compared to Air Warrior. 😉

Ken H
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4 years 9 months ago

I googled red flag. Can’t say I am any wiser, though…

74StingSaab
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4 years 9 months ago

HA!, got me.

saabist
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4 years 9 months ago

Perfect, though we will have a nice atraction more here in Switzerland 😀

theSandySaab
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4 years 9 months ago
One of the main differences is that the Gripen has 1 (one) engine, while both Eurofighter and Fallafel are twin engine fighters. This is a design criteria, but while the 2 latter can limp home on one remaining engine, the cost for purchase, service, operation, size and weight are some major drawbacks. As the rest of the defense world is catching up, Saab still has (probably) the worlds most advanced command and control datalink system, which is integrated in the avionics. Also, as mentioned by Lundin, the Gripen is designed to be robust, truly multi role with high availability and… Read more »
Peter Gilbert
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4 years 9 months ago
After SU and Swade’s Inside SAAB this is my 3rd favorite site. All you would care to know about the Gripen is there and as far as the competition it’s the best bang for the Krona. The Gripen is a 4.5 Generation Fighter and can go supersonic without afterburners.the F-35 cannot. The engine can be replaced in a hour and many countries now have them: Czech Republic; Hungary; South Africa and Thailand. As well as Switzerland, India and Brazil are in play and if you look at the link at the lower right you will see all the other possibilities.… Read more »
Dan P
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4 years 9 months ago

Great, but why do the neutral Swiss need fighter jets? Oh I remember.. to protect all that stolen bullion in their vaults! 😉

ivo 71
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4 years 9 months ago

And the Gripen, being currently the best deal for the money if you are in the market for that kind of aircraft, may well be acquired by other NATO countries as well if the Joint Strike Fighter gets cancelled after all. Given the cost overrides, that is not at all such a far-fetched possibility.

Ivo

Peter Gilbert
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4 years 9 months ago
RED FLAG is an annual Air Force war exercise, in Nevada, not an air show where some of the world’s best fighter pilots spend a few days in a mock-war. There are about 230 + planes which is as real to war as it gets these pilots come from countries like Britain, Germany, Italy, Sweden and Israel. It is real and very dangerous with dog fights, bombing runs, downed pilots practicing evasion and their rescue. You name it, there are bad guys good guys. It is like top gun on steroids! watch the various links to this on You Tube.… Read more »
Peter Gilbert
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4 years 9 months ago

This from “Fighter Pilot” a film about Red flag from a few years ago. Awesome.
http://youtu.be/G2UqrlWZnXM

Aero1
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4 years 9 months ago

I wish SAAB AB, SAAB would merge. They seem to be very profitable, SAAB would be one word and one company.

fvh
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4 years 9 months ago

My ancestors came from Switzerland (Canton Zurich/Bern) and Baden-Württemberg,I don’t understand why the Swiss put so much attention on their military?? It’s not like everyone wants to harm the Swiss…they’re pretty neutral and lovable people. But….I guess when Hitler and Stalin were raising Hell throughout Europe….maybe it’s not such a bad idea. I guess you never know….I was just over in Switzerland August 2010 (Geneva/Basel/Zurich)….

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