One month with an almost new 9-5 sedan, reflections

So chassis number 175 has been my car now for almost a month to the day. A nicely appointed Aero Turbo4 with manual transmission and all the bells and whistles. I had a 9-5 on the order block with a dealer in March but due to the situation then I never signed the contract. So in september I started to search the market and found this 11000 kilometer car. What a dream car it has been.

So what are the pros and cons? Most of You guys know I have driven virtually every Saab imaginable so I believe I can with some expertise pass a few judgements.

Pro:

– Great comfort and sport combination with the HiPer chassis with the individual adjustments

– World class over-all feel behind the nicely sculptured steering-wheel.

– Infotainment/phone/DVD/nav/DAB systems works seamless.

– Performance of the 2 liter 4 cylinder ECO tech engine with Hirsch upgrade + stainless quad exhaust is very good.

– Nice green ambient light with small green LED´s in tons of various places.

– Really high geared gearbox. Cruising at 90 km/h at a just 1500 rpm

– Really nice parchment interior feels really roomy and it is

– Backseat comfort with the feel of a long limousine, add to that the rear climate zone and the 2 8″ screens and the multitude of electronic connections.

Con:

– The white numbering of speedo etc should have been green and needles orange. Todays white light glares in the plastic tunnels of the dashboard.

– The A-pillars are bulky and reduces the field of view but I bet they could save life when that Moose/elk comes to close

– Flimsy sunshades that are not double as the old 9-5.

– Flimsy imprecise plastic lids of the compartments in the booth.

– Why did they not do the signature tube light up front into a daytime running light just like iduA?

– One USB connector nearer to the dashboard or on top of the dashboard for “Devices”.

– Foglights up front should have the same color temperature as the Xenon headlights.

Verdict: Minor faults will not change the overall rating. This is by far the very best Saab ever produced. It leaves previous 9-5 and the current 9-3 far behind. When I compare to my old TurboX, this car feels more than 10 years newer. The super solid feel, driving feel, steering and luxury makes this Saab the natural choice for not only the Saab enthusiast but any driver who wants a great drive.

Just lets pray for a fast restart of the production so more driver will experience the NEW 9-5.
There is a Facebook group for NG 9-5 owners:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/162858857140881/

Henrik B.
Member
4 years 10 months ago

About the fog lights – simply put in some Philips Blue Vision bulps! They’ll give you much more light, from the fog lights and moreover, a colourtemperature very close the 4300K of the Xenono bulps. 😉
Here in Denmark this is what alle the MB E-class has – also as parkinglight bulps.

Cheers!

Red J
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Jörgen,
just the very same pros and cons that I have.

hans h
Member
4 years 10 months ago

– Why did they not do the signature tube light up front into a daytime running light just like iduA?

I don’t understand this part. What is “iduA”?

Henrik B.
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Read backwards… 😉

Cheers!

hans h
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Haha… I feel like a toidi. 😉

Juerg_U
Member
4 years 10 months ago

You’re not, I didn’t get it either 😉

Tripod
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Trued,
And not giving them too many hits in the search engine results. 😉

sala or bust
Guest
4 years 10 months ago
Noway Jose I’ll do the fb stuff….:-D About the new 9-5, I do think it is big leap for saab when it comes to comfort, tech, quality designs and so forth. Today it is 11 month since we got out 9-5. The pro seems right, but I would like to add: * Diesel xwd, never happend to a saab before * headlight….darn the light flowes and make my dark driving a better drive The cons: * We have hade some buggs during the past 11 months. Now (hopefully) the last bugfix was done a week ago. * The size of… Read more »
saabdog
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Totally agree about the instrument colors. I wish they would go back to the old colors. That’s my only feedback, since I’ve only sat in a new 9-5 so far.

Baver
Member
4 years 10 months ago
Add me to preferring the old colors, but more importantly….the old font. Geez, how I miss the old Saab font on everything inside. Also, would love the rear headrests that Saab NA shows on their website; the ones in my 2011 Aero block too much visibility and don’t fold down like ones in previous years. Why oh why isn’t the front passenger seat the same size as the driver’s in the Aero???? And please give us adjustable side bolstering in the sport seats like BMW. My RDS doesn’t work for AM/FM and the dealer says all 2011 Aeros with Navigation… Read more »
Baver
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Oh and give me back my second back-up light and spare tire!

mcwill
Member
4 years 10 months ago
Glad to be talking about the cars again. After 15 months, I still love the 9-5. My personal pros are… – DriveSense : Knocking it into sport when approaching an overtaking oppertunity just doesn’t get old. – HUD : Sorry, I haven’t noticed the glare from the white speedo because I never look at it anymore. Really miss it when driving my wife’s 9-3. – The start button 🙂 Cons… – Economy : Manual 2.0T Aero XWD only getting 28.4 miles to the gallon average over 34,000 miles. – A few problems, all resolved and nothing that stop me buying… Read more »
dickerin
Member
4 years 10 months ago

You are disappointed with 28.4 mpg?

I am getting 22.6 mpg with my 2010 auto SportCombi.

MarkoA
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Why did they not do the signature tube light up front into a daytime running light just like iduA?

That would be the same as shouting “me too!!!!” and we do not want that, do we?

sala or bust
Guest
4 years 10 months ago

Saab was amongst the first with the tubes as a day time running light. I do think the tubes in the 9-3 is typed as dtrl. In that case, they got them in late 2007.

Nikolaos
Member
4 years 10 months ago

One month also with my new 9-5 XDW turbo4 manual + Hirsch upgrade 260HP
Finally found something to compare it with my old 9000CD Turbo (1991)
Superior Handling , comfort and feel .

But consumption is worst comparing to my old SAAB , also brute turbo force that’s makes your stomach to hang back to the seat is missing from new 9-5 .
Who knows, maybe Euro5 regulations .

Also this nice safety lights (red-white) when you open the doors are missing from 9-5

Peter, Sweden
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Good to hear! I miss the more aggressive side from my old 9000 TurboSport in my 9-3 Aero — maybe a 9-5 Aero could give me some “edge”? I’m thinking about getting a 9-5 Aero (Hirsched, and with the quad pipes!) in spring, and I’d just love to have a white or red 9-5 — but with a black, matte painted roof (like this pretty thing!)… How to do it? Any suggestions?

zippy
Member
4 years 10 months ago

You have impeccible taste sir. The 9-5 looks amazing in white. 🙂

Red J
Member
4 years 10 months ago

For the roof I would choose to wrap it, and I think the dealer has also done it.

But you could also ask the dealership that did that car. 🙂

zippy
Member
4 years 10 months ago

This car has the most attractive automotive behind that is in existence today. I just dont get why people would prefer an overpriced VW designed by someone who obviously doesn’t have much of an imagination over a Work of Art designed by Trolls. I just wish I had enough cash as Id buy one n a split second.

Gopher
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Jörgen, since you had replaced your 9-3 TX SC for this 9-5, how come you didn’t opt for a 9-5 SC? Wouldn’t you have preferred fantastic design elements and massive cargo space of the Sport Combi over the regular, basic sedan?

Iiari
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Trued, I too have a Turbo-X and I absolutely love my car. I have been concerned that by the time I’m ready to upgrade (in about 2-3 years when my warranty runs out) Saab won’t make anything at that point with the kind of silly power and performance capabilities that bring a smile to my face every day.

How do you think the upgraded Hirsched Aero 4 with manual compares to your prior Turbo-X in the performance categories? Acceleration, handling, braking, etc? Thanks!

North Toronto Punter
Member
4 years 10 months ago
This is my dilemma too! Brother Trued is in the Honeymoon Stage 🙂 (and I will grant a certain sybaratic splendor to riding in the back seat …as I did ‘limo style’ with him from Trollhattan to Stockholm a few weeks ago). But, frankly, Turbo X with a HUD would address any short fall (and with my after-market Kenwood + back-up camera, then some?) . Actually, given that Phoenix /NG 9-3 is probably 2 years away would it be impertinent of me to suggest that a Griffen with HUD and leather boot around the auto gear shift might give the… Read more »
RS
Member
4 years 10 months ago

I always though the green EIB loan and Swe Govt official environmental policy had something to do with killing any and all halo engines, not VM.
Guess that will change if Saab is going to compete with the 7-series, S-class etc. in the future 😉

mullsjo
Member
4 years 10 months ago
I have the NH 9-5 with chassis number 125, deliverd to me mid July 2010. Have driven it for 60.000km. About 50% in mid Europe and the rest in Sweden. It is 9-5 TiD auto. Can not complain over fuel economy. 6,2 liter/100km, and for some reason 6,0 abroad. Can be due to smother road surface, as the speed is higher. Some minor complains yes, but one whole most satisfied. Very enjoyable to drive. Can recommend to upgrade the TiD with Hirsch or alike. Gives same power as a TTiD to less fuel consumption and smoother running engine. And can… Read more »
E
Member
4 years 10 months ago

OK … this is something I should know, but don’t … where can I find the chassis number of my NG 9-5?

Maybe wait until Nov 15 before commiting to that Audi? It may all work out for the Fjord Blue SC after all. Plus you’ll have a 2012 model. 🙂

mullsjo
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Behind the windscreen. Last digits, or in the registration documents.

mullsjo
Member
4 years 10 months ago

2012 true, but sadly nothing new compared to my 2010.

rune
Member
4 years 10 months ago

I thought the 2012 SC got a backing camera now? And the dashboard fascia is new.

Plus, you might also get the HiPer strut suspension, which in MY10/11 was sadly limited to the Turbo6 (and TTiD IIRC).

rune
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Yes, you keep saying you have HiPer strut. 🙂

I am pretty sure that combination was never possible if ordered from a dealership (or online configurator). I suspect your configuration is somewhat special.

I suspect your 9-5 is the same one Tim told me about a few weeks before you bought it. Does your 9-5 have tri-zone clima control, yet lacks backseat entertainment?

Tripod
Member
4 years 10 months ago
2012 true, but sadly nothing new compared to my 2010. I would be pretty surprised if you didn’t see anything new compared to your 2010. Some of the news for the UK market, when it comes to MY12, has been posted here earlier. As Rune mentioned I guess there will be some small changes to for example the dashboard, would be pretty surprised if that wasn’t included on all markets. It has been mentioned elsewhere, earlier, that they have intended to do some changes. Then we have the engines etc. Some packages, radio perhaps, and other things might be unique… Read more »
mullsjo
Member
4 years 10 months ago
There will be no major updates. Dashboard might happen, but before production stopped the update was cancelled. Unfortunatelly also doubtful that there will be any changes to the suspension. Ok I have managed to have 6 OG 9-5 starting from fall 1997 up until the last which was a 2009. More or less the same car, but some updrades which lifted it a little bit. So why complain. But still the competition is tuff, and for success there must be something new. I wrote earlier no major complains to my NG 9-5, but still some irritating. – Squeak comming and… Read more »
RS
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Speaking of the 9-5 SC and providing user input I’d be interested in knowing, can the mentioned (wet) storage compartment under the trunk be removed to provide extra space when needed?
To me it looks like Saab is somewhat following the unfortunate patch of the ovloV where the floor is so high up that the height of the cargo space itself becomes compromised.
Looking at the video from Inside Saab you clearly see the trunk could be quite massive/deep when you take everything out.

PS. many Saabers need all the hauling volume they can get not just stashes for smaller items.

SAABNUT
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Diesel sold in Sweden have less energy per liter than the average EU sourced diesel fuel.

Lower sulphur and emission reducing additives give less polution but also increase consumption per km.

Same goes for 95 octane petrol sold at Swedish pumps – higher content of ethanol and more additives to reduce emissions also means that the energy content per liter is lower than average EU standard fuel.

In effect its more difficult to reach the official consumption numbers offered by the manufacturer, when driving on fuel sourced in Sweden than in for instance Germany.

mullsjo
Member
4 years 10 months ago

That is not correct any longer. Shell and Aral have a special diesel, but the normal is the same. I many times fill upp my car then sail with ferry to Kiel, or opposite on way north I fill the car in northern Germany.
Tendency is same less fuel burned/km in mid Europe than in Sweden. So the only reason I can understand is the friction between tyre and road surface.

rune
Member
4 years 10 months ago

Flimsy imprecise plastic lids of the compartments in the booth.

The plastic in question is quite soft. I wonder if it has been done this way to prevent the plastic from cracking (due to extreme cold and similar)?

I have some plastic details in my 1997 9000 that have not survived too well (the lid for the tools in the trunk), but that could easily be due to physical abuse by previous owners.

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