Reading Between The Lines

Lately we have seen a flurry of activity on the NEVS/SAAB job postings which would lead us to think that things behind the scenes are moving a lot faster than any of us know or are being told about. At SAABSUNITED, we are told of a lot of different things that are being done off the record and we remain silent on most of them because they are still not complete and we don’t want to risk releasing something too soon or potentially damage something that was being explored, not to mention that sometimes we are told rumours as well.

I still search through the job postings everyday looking for what I can see and trying to read between the lines which is probably both good and bad because sometimes you may just see what you want to see but on the other hand, why would something be written out in a job description if it wasn’t being explored or if it wasn’t something they were looking to do?

This is the latest job posting that I found on the NEVS job board and I have highlighted something that caught my eye for obvious reasons. I have absolutely no knowledge as to where they are in this regard but the fact they want someone with basic knowledge in electric and hybrid makes me a little more optimistic in regards to hybrid technology. What do you think, can we read between lines or is this just a standard thing to look for?

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jond
Member
3 years 4 months ago

I find this a bit depressing really. Who are they going to find in Sweden with experience of tuning chassis for EVs? And why no mention at all of ICEs? Have they completely given up on these latter?

hilmar
Member
3 years 4 months ago

I think you could be right regarding hybrid technology. Currently there is no sufficient infrastructure for EV´s in Europe and how it will work in China or perhaps other countries we´ll see. An experiment in any case. NEVS has to earn money and why should they put off many long-term Saab fans if one could build a hybrid or fossil-fuel / biopower car like the 9-3 without extraordinary expenditure and sell it. Let´s hope.

xelav
Member
3 years 4 months ago

Volvo showed us with their v60 plug in hybrid D6, and also Mitsubishi with their (ugly) outlander hybrid with a 2 liter petrol engine what at least here in holland people want. Both are sold out , and production is increased due to the big demand of tax friendly cars who can also thug a boat or caravan and are not limited in range due rare charging stations. Saab 93 diesel hybrid will sell as hell. Make it , nevs.

gustaf
Member
3 years 4 months ago

NEVS biggest issue is N E V S. They chose to focus on a single technique, EV. Why not be open minded, the future is not set.

dcpattie
Member
3 years 4 months ago

Why are they even placing “Help Wanted” ads? Didn’t Saab have dedicated EV staff before the Dec 2011 collapse – why not re-hire them? I always got the sense that in the automotive world, companies constantly picked off competitors staff – why not strategically target folks with EV experience? Or is it that Saab can’t offer any real future (or at least stable enough to jump ship)? I bet there’s a few FIsker Automotive folks that could offer NEVS some EV/Hybrid know-how.

dcpattie
Member
3 years 4 months ago
Dead serious about hiring Fisker staff. In fact, wouldn’t it be cool if NEVS purchased the remains of Fisker – consolidated the design studios – and had production capability in both Trollhättan and Uusikaupunki – talk about “Scandinavian”! And on the Fisker Karma – I’d re-lauch an newly skinned version in 2014 as the new Saab 9-5 with all the Aero X and NG 9-5 styling cues. Suddenly Saab Cars would have the 9-3 hybrid, 9-3 EV, and 9-5 plug-in hybrid to offer the world. One hurdle of course would be getting the Karma-based 9-5 under 50K but who cares… Read more »
OddJob
Member
3 years 4 months ago

.,,and Fisker Karma basically has the same ICE engine as NG 9-5 – the 2.0 T (though with 260hp output).

Joe
Guest
3 years 4 months ago

If Saab couldn’t make it without GM, and Fisker couldn’t make it with their investor group, why should they together, succeed? Both failed mostly from various MARKETING reasons.

Remember it’s mostly about MARKETING, not dreaming.

dcpattie
Member
3 years 4 months ago

And of course the Fisker Karma “Surf” could be the all new 9-5 SportCombi…oh the possibilities!

duckhead99
Member
3 years 4 months ago
The folks from UUsikaupunki always seemed to build a really fine Saab! I noticed, when I set-up shop in 1993, that if you had 3 classic 900’s, with about 150k on the odometer, chances were that the one that just felt a little tighter than the rest @ that mileage was off Assembly line 7 @ Valmet! No offense to my Swedish friends, certainly the Trollhatten cars were excellent vehicles, but those Line 7 cars really held-up well! I once, @ the port in Brunswick, Georgia, watched a group from the Arlov plant looking over a 900 sedan from Finland… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
3 years 4 months ago

I’m done “reading between the lines” with NEVS. The lines are too blurry and there’s not enough space between them to write anything, much less read it. They should use their website to update the Saab community and the automotive world in general on what we should be looking for in the next year or so. It’s a bush league website they’re running, but a few lines of current news would be nice. Is “Web Developer” in the help wanted section? How about “Public Relations Specialist” or “Advertising Coordinator?”

Henrik B.
Member
3 years 4 months ago

No they shouldn’t Angelo!

Cheers!

Stefan Zomborcsevics
Guest
3 years 4 months ago

I’m also reading all the job-offers.
I find it comforting to see what they hire and that the ads is out for such a short period of time. To me that indicates NEVS gets the staff they wants.
I’ve only seen a few ads that got a new end application date. Again, to me, changing the end date means “we want more/better applications”.

bpsorrel
Member
3 years 4 months ago

I’m just curious – do we know anyone that has secured a position at NEVS? Anyone in the SaabsUnited community? 🙂

Johnny Johansson
Member
3 years 4 months ago

I know a former Saab designer, he is now responsible for styling at Nevs. He works as a consultant, not an employee of Nevs. He has two modellers, also consultants. Nevs also have former Saab engineers as consultants.

Angelo V.
Member
3 years 4 months ago

Johnny (Or Tim, or Jason): Is this common practice throughout the industry? Do most car companies have in-house staff for these matters, or do most of them go to consultants? I know there are design houses like Pininfaria and others—but what about engineering?

Johnny Johansson
Member
3 years 4 months ago

This becomes more and more common. This makes it much easier for the company to adjust the number of people they need. Saab had in-house staff for these matters, but for many years also a number of consultants, the number of them depended on how much work there was to do.

Johnny Johansson
Member
3 years 4 months ago

When you go to Nevs website and look at ‘Work with us’, you will not find job ads there for all people they need. E.g., they don’t employ people for product development. They engage consulting firms for these jobs. Many engineers who worked for Saab earlier, are now employed in new consulting firms, some of them located in Trollhättan. In these firms, Nevs have found or will find many of the people they need.

Remdu67
Member
3 years 4 months ago
Like Jason, I think these jobs postings tell more than NEVS wants, for NOW, to say. Mainly because the way to ICE cars is a bit longer or uncertain than we would hope and mainly because it is not the right time to go to market. What product, for who, where and when. First question is not yet fully answered, no reason to blablabla like we unfortunately have in the past. This time until they enter in the market: they will never have it back when the production will start up so they spend costs in advertising, marketing and commercial… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
3 years 4 months ago
The ultimate “consequence” of December 2011 will be if “the new Saab” builds electric toys for the rich exclusively, and no real cars. That would be the ultimate punishment for people who want Saab back in some form of what we remember. My fear is that we might never see another new Saab for sale in North America (at least not with this owner) and the rest of the world will get electric appliances without the obsessive safety features our older Saabs have. Having read posts from many others over the last year or so—-I know that I’m not the… Read more »
Red J
Member
3 years 4 months ago
From the engineer point of view this job posting is no surprise. First, they are asking for a chassis mechanic and not an engineer, this is the guy that fiddles around with the springs and dampers, and not the one that decides that the springs have to be a little bit harder. And no matter what NEVS does, they will be offering some kind of EV and/or hybrid car, as all the other car brands. Second, to be able to work as a mechanic on a hybrid or EV you need a special knowledge, as it can be very unhealthy… Read more »
tbush311
Guest
3 years 4 months ago
To be quite honest, if Saab and NEVS really want to be competitive, they need to follow in the way of Ford… Selling gasoline powered cars (petrol) with electric components, and sell plug in variants to back up. This way they can ease their way into being a fully electric car company. Right now in 2013 the technology isn’t exactly there… Take it from an americans point of view… The Nissan Leaf is severely unattractive, the FIAT 500e is only sold in California, the Mitsubishi i-Miev is extremely underpowered. NEVS has to build a car that is attractive, available everywhere,… Read more »
phermansson
Member
3 years 4 months ago

There are more markets than just the american one and electric cars are on the rise in most of Europe whos market was at its peak almost 40% larger than the american one with a significantly higher profit margin per sold car than cars sold in the US.

I think we should rely upon that NEVS has done its homework and know what they need to do, it is after all their place and their money.

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