2014 9-3 Aero for sale in Swedish classifieds

Many former SAAB-dealers in Sweden has since the bankruptcy sold second hand SAAB’s, and many of them also purchased cars from the bankruptcy administrators so they had a stock of used SAAB cars.
As we know will Nevs sell the 2014 9-3 Aeros via their website, but now we have a former dealer of SAAB cars who want to sell cars from their showroom.

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The firm Northcar in Sundsvall, Sweden, have for sale a number of 2014 9-3 Aeros that they have ordered from Nevs. Northcar still have a SAAB workshop and sell spare parts for SAAB cars, and they have a showroom there they sell other brands. That you can now go to their showroom and buy a new SAAB tells me that they have faith in SAAB! The price is 5000 SEK higher compared to if you buy the car direct from Nevs, and you’ll miss the factory tour and experience when you collect your car in Trollhättan.
Since the car is registered in Sweden, you can have it registered  in others EU country as well, so if someone aboard want to buy a 2014 9-3 Aero, this is your first chance!

theSandySaab
Member
2 years 9 months ago

That is great news!
To see it has hit the swedish showroom(s?) is fantastic. Also, the price is approx. 50,000 SEK lower than a comparable BMW (328i – which has a 4-pot 2L turbo as well). And then to get the beamer to the same equipment level, you are looking at another 50,000…

Just sayin’…

Z!
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2 years 9 months ago

fantastic! SAABs spreading wings again…

Mike
Member
2 years 9 months ago

If someone on here buys one, I (and I would wager many others) would love it if that person recorded and uploaded a YouTube video tour of the car and maybe a video of a test run. Then it would be great if they posted the link on SU for us all to view (especially for those of us in the US that may never see a brand new SAAB again). We’d much appreciate it.

onlysaab
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2 years 9 months ago

+1

jxh
Member
2 years 9 months ago

Maybe we can persuade the dealer to do this, before there’s a final customer. It should only help them, right?

phermansson
Member
2 years 9 months ago

SU has been promised a test-drive of one of the very first cars! We’ll do the video and upload it the same day! =)

belgian_roadster from Eupen, DG
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… The price is 5000 SEK higher compared to if you buy the car direct from Nevs!
SAAB is a very big community, isn’t it.
Your dealership is part of this community.
Support your dealer, buy a car in their showrooms and do a factory tour later (maybe Saabsunited can organize this 🙂 )

GrumpyGriffin
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2 years 9 months ago

£460 is a very small margin with which to give the level of service the typical Saab customer expects from a dealer, if you are not to fussed about the factory tour and have other demands on your time, buying from the dealer would seem a better deal.

RS
Member
2 years 9 months ago

Grumpy, I agree. 5000 SEK or 500 EUR is nothing for having a familiar sales person at the dealership you can go to if there’s a problem with your car. And especially after the warranty has expired…

No 9
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2 years 9 months ago

I think the dealer should negotiate with NEVS for the free tour of the factory for their customers, and may they be numerous!

dickerin
Member
2 years 9 months ago

Who makes the engine?

Mark G
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2 years 9 months ago

Start shipping cars to the dealerships still in play…they WANT the cars to sell.

Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago
As I replied to you directly Mark….it’s cute and all that you could go to the factory to pick your car up. But that could get kind of squirrely,, quickly. There’s an established, conventional way that people shop for cars. Might not be perfect—-but it’s what people are comfortable with and used to—-and for a small start-up to try to buck that can mean they’ll be swept away like a grain of sand from the beach, by the tide. People keep pointing to Tesla as the ”success story” that’s rewriting all the rules about how cars are made, how they’re… Read more »
No 9
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2 years 9 months ago

You make a good point Angelo but wouldn’t the answer lie in between those two business models. I’t’s all very nice to point out Toyota’s business model but NEVS has ONE, outdated, model to sell. How many dealerships will go for that? I think internet sales is a good idea for a practically custom-built car, but by no means deny cars to dealers who want some!

Quixcube
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2 years 9 months ago
Saab tried the conventional route and they failed. Capitalism weeded them out. Bye-bye. So why should they try the same route again? That is a tactic taken by the insane (according to one over-applied definition, anyway). Tried that and it failed: Conventional cars with conventional ICE. Conventional dealership network. Conventional rebates and discounts and games and smoke and mirrors. Failed. Haven’t tried it yet: New propulsion technologies (not always exclusively plug-in powered, but that’s what they have in the shed out back to try for now). New retail model. New service model. People are comfortable and used to Toyotas. Why… Read more »
Jan Ivarsson
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2 years 9 months ago

Regarding cars and dealerships this was a pretty interesting story imho:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/513/129-cars

Worth the listen.

Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago
I agree with the premise that duplicating an approach that failed and expecting a different/better outcome is the definition of insanity. That’s why I’ve been advocating for a new target market for Saab—-which is younger buyers with less to spend on their new car. That doesn’t mean Saab can’t also sell at the higher end, but they need an entry level hatchback in the worst way and without a less expensive car that more people can afford—-it makes absolutely no difference if it’s EV or ICE, dealership or online purchases—-nothing will save them except the car itself and again, that… Read more »
Baver
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2 years 9 months ago

Boooo. People will pay if the perceived quality is there. If there is actual quality, well, that’s even better. I don’t think you will see people lining up to buy Chinese Saabs anytime soon. Not in the West.

Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago
The Buicks made in China are at least as high quality as the Buicks made in the U.S.A. Chinese factories are as good (or bad) as required to be competitive. They can make an excellent product there. And yes, people in the west will buy. Some 25 year old who can afford “the new Saab that looks cooler than a Golf…and it’s a SAAB!” won’t care that it’s made in China and in fact, might not even know it’s made in China. We’re very close to the situation and are car enthusiasts in general—-we know about suppliers like ZF—-we know… Read more »
No 9
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2 years 9 months ago

Remember what we all thought of japanese cars when they first arrived,and then the korean cars…

dickerin
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2 years 9 months ago

When I was a kid in the in the mid-60s we laughed at Japanese cars knowing that Americans wouldn’t buy cheap, small, under-powered crap.

No 9
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2 years 9 months ago

The same can be said for europeans cars actually. Think VW, Vauxall, Austin, MG…

3cyl
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2 years 9 months ago

I believe it was during the 70’s that exchange rates started to be less favorable to the dollar and the cost of European imports began to noticeably spiral upward.

3cyl
Member
2 years 9 months ago

Does the dealer in this case have some form of dealership agreement with NEVS or are they simply buying the cars on-line and selling them for what appears to be around breakeven unless they are getting some kind of volume discount?

No 9
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2 years 9 months ago

From what I understand, they are doing it on their own and adding a very modest premium of 5 OOO SEK.

No 9
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2 years 9 months ago
I very much agree with the 9-2 approach, (and call it a 92). SAAB’s traditional competition has leeped so far ahead while the Trolls were in hibernation that it’s unrealistic to stay in that territory. It would be wise to create an affordable fun car for the young and yound at heart and recreate a bus for the brand. Maybe NEVS could succeed where Toyota failed (so far) with Scion. Mind you, I am not against starting with the 9-3 which was readily available and offer a good mid-size semi luxurious car at a very competitive price. I only wish… Read more »
Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago
Yes—-and it boils down to what to attack first—-the high volume cheap car or the flagship bragging rights car that Muller built just before they went belly up. Best case is to introduce two at the same time, like Acura did when they started (Legend and Integra). I know the temptation is to build the car that the executives working for the company or owning it ideally would want as their own car. But honestly, that misses the business opportunity of building the car that is the right one to make the most money for the company. A small hatchback… Read more »
Baver
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2 years 9 months ago

They have the government of Qingdao behind them – they will be fine for quite some time. This company is (nearly) exactly what the “Communist” party leaders wanted for their country.

Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago

Yes Baver, it’s a victory flag of sorts. I can’t blame them. They waited patiently for their economic power/might and leadership/dominance. Now they can afford to acquire big names from the West as their own and have players like Saab…play by their rules. People who believe this is some sort of “partnership” or even “consortium” are living in La-la-land. This is Chinese money and Chinese control. And that’s just fine—-“He who has the gold, makes the rules. Keep digging.”

nichell
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2 years 9 months ago

Interesting, Sandy. How did you calculate this?

dickerin
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2 years 9 months ago

I think most people are missing the point of NEVS’s probable focus.
China is the hottest market in the world and will be for some time. There are predictions that demand could be for an additional 100M cars by 2020 (the next six years).
There are very generous government subsidies for EVs and stringent regulations to improve overall fleet gas mileage.
There is no reason for NEVS to be concerned with the saturated western markets.

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 9 months ago
Serious multi-national corporations don’t leave money on the table. And seriously, the U.S. market for cars isn’t “saturated.” In fact, because of the poor economy, people have held onto their cars much longer than usual—-and already, we’re seeing significant sales increases as people finally buy new cars—-even though the economy is still sluggish. With a different President/policies and real prosperity, we’d be chugging along with a much better GDP and cars would be in even more demand here—-and that can happen with the right leadership—-and at that point, NEVS would be stupid not to take advantage of it. But if… Read more »
Seb
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2 years 9 months ago
Wow. Although I admire NEV’s attempt to resurect SAAB (some say SAAB died after GM bought them) trying to sell a 10+ year old platform at $42k is almost as bad as trying to resurrect Chevy Chase in 2013 for a spot on Saturday Night Live. I almost want to pull a Howard Stern, “dont be stupid you moron” sound gag with the NEVS executives. Really man. This car was decent in 2002 but even in the Chinese market it doesnt compete with really anything. Resurrecting this is like it’s own SAAB Zombie Apocalypse but worse. It just wont die.… Read more »
RS
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2 years 9 months ago

Yawn. How long is it going to take for you guys to understand that cars are a “bit more” expensive over here?
An A4 with 180 hp FWD, leather seats and some upgrades was 380.000 SEK on the Audi site. That is roughly $57K!
The 9-3 sounds like a bargain to me.

Angelo V.
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2 years 9 months ago
Seb: Saab was on life support before GM bought them—-and if GM didn’t step in, the plug was about to be pulled. I’m not the world’s biggest GM fan either, as evidenced by my many rantings here against them. But Saab would have been gone and forgotten 20 years ago if GM didn’t step in. Time for everyone to wake up and realize that. As for the 9-3—-NEVS needed to get cars back in production SOONER than this (ideally). Their only chance at all of getting cars available was either to forge a partnership with some other company and rebadge… Read more »
saabyurk
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2 years 9 months ago
This little untruth is oft-repeated and drives me nuts: ” Saab was on life support before GM bought them—-and if GM didn’t step in, the plug was about to be pulled. … Saab would have been gone and forgotten 20 years ago if GM didn’t step in.” Just a tiny bit of searching will reveal dozens of articles in major news publications back then describing an imminent deal between Fiat and Saab-Scania. Fiat planned on combining Saab with Lancia with whom Saab had a number of successful collaborations. However, GM somehow got the nod with a lower bid. I’m not… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
2 years 9 months ago
In other words, FIAT planned on having Lancia absorb Saab. To me, that means Saab would have died. GM might not have handled things the best way they could have for Saab—-but Saab was a division of GM—Saabs were still sold as Saabs. GM did spend on advertising (crappy advertising, but the budget wasn’t nearly as bad as the creative executions were). There was still a Saab. Please link to one of the articles you mention—–a quick word search didn’t turn anything up regarding that possible merger. By the way, maybe NEVS can locate and dust off the Saab 600… Read more »
saabyurk
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2 years 9 months ago

You might be right about being absorbed. Fiat’s main interest was Saab’s production capacity. Plenty of articles quoted here:
saabhistory com/2008/07/29/the-fiat-acquistion-of-saab-scanias-car-division-1989/
Fill in the dot.

3cyl
Member
2 years 9 months ago

It could be argued that things have worked out more strangely for Lancia than they have for SAAB. If you live in the U.S.(where Lancias are not sold), go online and take a look at the current Thema, Flavia and Voyager models. Do you see anything familiar?

rune
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2 years 8 months ago

The “what-if” game is a murky one at best.

From the link saabyurk posted, it is clearly documented that both Fiat and Volvo were sniffing around. Maybe others as well?

But yeah, Saab was probably struggling to find its identity for a while. However, that does not automatically translate into guaranteed failure post-GM given an owner with deep enough pockets to pay for _both_ advertising _and_ R&D. GM’s selection process leading up to the sale to Koenigsegg (and later Spyker) leaves many questions unanswered IMO.

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 8 months ago

“GM’s selection process leading up to the sale to Koenigsegg (and later Spyker) leaves many questions unanswered IMO.” True words my friend, very true words and I don’t think it’s even a matter of opinion—unanswered questions indeed.

Busy
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2 years 9 months ago

In The Netherlands a SAAB specialist, former SAAB dealer, has managed to get 3 SAAB’s 9-3 Aero’s for sale. (expected arrival May 2014) SAAB has still a strong base of specialist and former dealers who still sell SAAB. More or less the same as before the bankruptcy. Hope we will see more of new SAAB’s (EV, biopower and fuel cell technology)

No 9
Member
2 years 9 months ago

May is very far away. Are the first cars produced all going to China? The line is moving no?

Busy
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2 years 9 months ago

the production total is very low 200 cars are shipped over to China at least. Production rate is 10 per week I thought (should be posted someware on SU)

No 9
Member
2 years 9 months ago

Indeed those are the numbers announced. That’s 20 weeks for the China cars. I know it’s a startup, but isn’t 10 cars a week a bit ridiculous?

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 8 months ago

At 10 cars a week, aren’t they triple checking every weld—-polishing the nuts and bolts before screwing them in—crafting these 9-3s like a Bugatti?

Daniel Hana
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2 years 8 months ago

Where the Saabs that were sold when the site went live been picked up yet?

Thanks
Danny

phermansson
Member
2 years 8 months ago

Nope, end of january

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