Pilots Wanted 2014

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Today the regitration for the “Pilots Wanted 2014” NG 9-5 meeting started. It will be held at the Saab Zentrum Kiel on the 13th and 14th of June.

The meeting is tailored for owners of the NG 9-5 and only they will have access to the full program of the event. Nevertheless owners of other Saab models are of course welcome to visit the event as guests without having to register.

The event is organized by Saab Zentrum Kiel in cooperation with saabblog.net. Registration, more info and the preliminarily programme (in various languages) can be found at saabmidsommar.de.

RobinM
Member
2 years 6 months ago

This looks a great event, hope you get lots of them there.

dcpattie
Member
2 years 6 months ago

That’s my car NG 9-5 XWD aero in Diamond Silver!

Piet-Hein S.
Member
2 years 6 months ago

hm…maybe it’s time to reconsider the cars i drive (FIAT 9000)…

phermansson
Member
2 years 6 months ago

NG9-5 is one of the most amazing Saabs ever built ! =)

3cyl
Member
2 years 5 months ago

A nearby dealer has several new 9-5s available starting at $25k. For someone planning to keep their car for many years it seems to be lot of car for the money but that assumes parts continue to be available. I don’t know how low the price will have to be to move these cars, but apparently the current asking prices still are not low enough to clear them out.

Jakob Jorgensen
Member
2 years 5 months ago

I agree! I have had mine for three weeks now!!

Jakob Jorgensen
Member
2 years 5 months ago

I agree! I have had mine for 3 weeks.

Silas
Member
2 years 6 months ago

I was really hoping this was a Press Release that NEVS Saab Cars finally decided to pursue making the NG 9-5. Oh well, one can hope right?

Scire
Member
2 years 5 months ago

Too bad one could do so here in Southern California.

Doug R.
Guest
2 years 5 months ago
I would like to get one,, parts and technicians may be a problem… So few sold here in America… How many techs really understand the car?… Since 2011 the big Saab dealer here really seems detached from the brand or at the very least if you need them they rake past Saab customers with outrageous service charges that are jacked up.. Sadly it upsets the few loyal customers who are forced to move on to new brands.. Certainly not a Saab service center who is thinking that Saabs return is imminent. Fortunately for me I have found small shops with… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago
Are you referring to Chinese state owned Shanghai Motors (SAIC)? Let me tell you something Doug—-I don’t have the first clue what the legalities of this would be—-but if they rebranded with an entirely new name (obviously couldn’t be Saab—-but let’s say they went with some generic name “Precise Motors, Inc.” and introduced the “PMi” brand to North America—-and it was the old Saab models made to meet current regulations with some basic interior and trim changes—-new names (Precise PR10, PR20 or something like that), PMi could move a lot of these dinosaurs to Saab loving Americans. Didn’t Yugo just… Read more »
Doug R.
Guest
2 years 5 months ago

Yup that was kind of where I was going.. Could happen at low prices. Real mess,,Really Saab was pieced off.. That is why its imperative Nevs/Saab needed the Phoenix, and that is still unclear what they have with IP rights My understanding is only some,,while GM holds portions. Not good…

The battle seems endless..

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago
I am certain that there is a market—-not huge, but healthy enough—-for cars like those old Saabs. Or old Volvos for that matter. Even old Japanese platforms or American ones. The thing is—-the European designs, particularly the Swedish ones, don’t seem to trade on trendy designs or fashion. That’s why they would lend themselves well to be reintroduced. But honestly, even if some Chinese company had control over the early 90s Accord or Camry—-built it to be reliable and cheap—-they could move a lot of them. And I always felt that select old American models might see some success. If… Read more »
3cyl
Member
2 years 5 months ago

There may be a limited market for former SAAB and Volvo models brought up to modern requirements (assuming that can be done) and produced in small quantities, but the cost of building them would not result in anything like a value car. They would be boutique vehicles and have to be priced accordingly..

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago

Why would they be that costly? if they were built in China, wouldn’t the labor savings alone help make the cost competitive?

3cyl
Member
2 years 5 months ago

There would be no economy of scale and regulatory updates would be problematic. If not, cities would still be filled with Checker cabs.

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago

I’d be very happy riding in a Checker cab. It’s hard to believe that we’re now riding in the back seat of a Prius and paying someone for that torture. I’d much rather be in a Checker, stretching my legs out and not squeezed into the person sitting next to me. Oh, but hey, we’re saving the planet.

3cyl
Member
2 years 5 months ago

I don’t know about saving the planet, but legend has it that with all that room available back there, many passengers put it to better use than leg stretching. Or maybe you were using a euphemism?

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago

No, that sort of “better use” that I think you’re referring to is reserved for stretch limos or an 18 year old’s hatchback , not a Checker cab. But point well taken.

Avelik
Member
2 years 5 months ago
The Chinese company that bought the SAAB tech is BAIC (Beijing Automotive Industry Corporation). They bought the platforms of the OG 9-5 and the pre-facelifted 9-3. They claim to have bought the whole platform of the 9-3, but I remember reading a comment here that stated that they bought only parts of it. Don’t remember what “parts of it” meant. Maybe someone here could elaborate on that. BAIC also bought the 2.0 and 2.3 engines of the 9-5. The cars they are producing are sold under the brand Senova and are not just rebadged old Saabs, but totaly redisigned and… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago

I almost don’t want to delve into this too far Avelik—-I’ll end up upset that they aren’t exporting these Senova cars to the U.S., where I might be a buyer.

Doug R.
Guest
2 years 5 months ago
My personal belief is that Baic,, is Saab,, and many articles say the same thing,, OR Elude To it, as the Chinese Saab. To me one more dagger to the Saab Brand. Now Angelo you know why bringing back the current 93 would be death for the Saab name to be recognized as a contender . Are you kidding me who would pay for it… Nevs is really screwed. How is this company going to make it with all this going on… Nevs has zero brand identity,, zero ok… Nothing new nothing original and sadly nothing coming for years. A… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago

Doug: I saw that article last year and I’d be a buyer for that car if it were sold in the U.S. at an average new car price. Well—-I guess I would need to drive it first, but it has the basic goodness of the same generation Saab 9-5 that I drove today. I actually like the looks of it too.

Doug R.
Guest
2 years 5 months ago

You may get that opportunity soon. Could be the closest thing you will get that has some Saab in it. Where does Nevs fit into all this in China or else where?. You have the answer?

Angelo V.
Member
2 years 5 months ago
From the May 2014 issue of Car and Driver, Page 26, article by John Phillips, this blurb: “That’s the plan? Saab’s new owner has restarted production of the Saab 9-3 Aero sedan in Trollhattan, Sweden. Sales will be ‘initially focused’ in China and will be ‘very modest’ with an output of 10 cars per week. The car resembles the last 9-3 built two years ago. That’s the plan? The plan for the return of a twice-baked Swedish meatball that now costs about $43,000 and relies on a senescent GM drivetrain? Of course, producing only 10 cars weekly, Saab will save… Read more »
Doug R.
Guest
2 years 5 months ago

Well Angelo I guess that says it all. The only thing I disagree on, is people who are pro active on this forum no much more than the outside world are you sure? LOL.

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