Nevs builds cars in Trollhättan again!

_L5F0836This morning Sveriges Radio P4 Väst (the local Swedish Radio for Trollhättan-area) announce that Nevs are going to complete over 100 cars that Nevs will sell over the coming months.

In a comment to P4 Väst Mattias Bergman says that “- The cars are still 14 model year from when production was stopped. Now we are pursuing another hundred cars coming onto the market”.

Further in the article P4 Väst says that Nevs already now has money to survive February, like money for salaries and taxes for example.
Some of  the way Nevs get money in (like we at SU earlier has written)  is on spare-parts production (to Orio), work in the laboratories and the technology development center for other companies. The gap between income and expenses is filled by the current owners from month to month.

About the progress in the reconstruction P4 Väst writes that Nevs estimate that they most likely will apply to a extension of the reconstruction when it ends in the beginning of Mars.

If someone like to read the original article in Swedish,  you will find it here: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=125&artikel=6085765

Since Nevs still is in reconstruction, they have to get money from somewhere, and sell some unfinished cars is one way to this. This is NOT a restart of the ordinary production that was stopped in May last year, this is as I see it completing cars that already is in the factory, similar to that ANA did in their shop when Saab went into bankruptcy December 2011. And as mentioned over, this is NOT a new model, this is the 2014 9-3 Aero with the same specifications like before the production-stop. Personally I think this is a good way to get some fresh money in to the reconstruction, I hope people know their time and buy a new Saab if they have plans to get a new car. Regarding how the cars is going to be

SNJ
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1 year 7 months ago

Cant they call these Saabs since the brand was taken away from them?

phermansson
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1 year 7 months ago

yes, since these cars are already built to a certain degree

Trued
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1 year 7 months ago

Let be open and say it. It is 150 cars with chinese specifications. The car need to altered to be “sellable” on the swedish market. Add ESP and other stuff.

saabboy1
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1 year 7 months ago

I wonder if the court will approve another extension considering they just got one in December. I mean are we going to keep on extending it month after month. I cant imagine anyone willing to put up their hard earned money on this 2014 car with this unknown future in the brand. What about warren-tee issues with parts, and service?

tombalas
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1 year 7 months ago

Next, ANA will come back in to the factory to finish assembly of the last few unfinished units, and one will get purchased for display at the Saab Museum, and then…

Wait a minute. Haven’t we seen this movie before? .

dcx _310
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1 year 7 months ago

déjà vu

Romac
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1 year 7 months ago

Yes, it’ll have special groundhog badges. I don’t understand but I still wish them all the best!

David Hay
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1 year 7 months ago

Very funny —- I like it.

Perhaps when and if they get back into production, the new car could be called the Roadhog. 🙂

Ralph
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1 year 7 months ago

Haha, I was thinking the same! 🙂

Dagen Runt
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1 year 7 months ago

Worth a mention: The article states that the reason why negotiations with Mahindra are lagging is the use of Saab brand name. It remains unsolved.

phermansson
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1 year 7 months ago

Just like we’ve been saying here on SU since june last year…

Massimo
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1 year 7 months ago

I am really struggling to understand why SAAB AB does not grant rights to use the trademark to Mahindra, who knows well and with whom he already eccellente collaboration, after it had granted
to subjects like Spyker and NEVS ?

phermansson
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1 year 7 months ago
First, the name was not granted to Spyker. SAAB Automobile AB had a previous agreement dating back almost 2 decades for the use of the brand name, when Spyker bought Saab Automobile AB, those rights were automatically transfered. But Spyker as a company did not have the rights, those legal papers were within Saab Automobile AB. NEVS had to fight for the rights for more than 8 months and make a large amount of expensive promises in order to get it, promises they weren’t able to uphold… I can tell you what I’ve heard. Basically SAAB AB does not like… Read more »
AEROOTTAWA
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1 year 7 months ago

If the gap between the two parties is so big, why are the talks even continuing? Why didn’t Mahindra just walk away weeks ago?

Red J
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1 year 7 months ago

++

Doug R.
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1 year 7 months ago
Tim it sounds like Saab AB and Mahindra are miles apart…. according to your source. Several models plus sub models, a commitment is billions of dollars (US) over the period. In addition the percentage of production that has to take place in Sweden is a problem in itself considering cost of goods. Is it 100 percent ?? If what you say is accurate it seems that a deal between Mahindra and Saab AB is miles apart. If so the future looks bleak . What would an extension do for Nevs???? It really makes no sense. Am I missing something? If… Read more »
Angelo V.
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1 year 7 months ago

A better question is: If they are miles and miles apart, why is this dragging out so long? That makes no sense. When two parties are this far apart in any negotiation, someone leaves the table or both leave the table. My guess is that Mahindra is willing to do a heck of a lot more than an electric 9-3 sedan. I have a feeling that’s made up to make them look bad by someone who doesn’t like them for some reason.

hughw
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1 year 7 months ago

this is from a googletrans of a ttela.se article yesterday. It’s a quote from an interview with Mattias Bergman.

“There is a critical piece. It’s part of the whole, we have a brand that must be loaded with quality products that must be designed and built here in Trollhättan. You can not take a bite, it’s a package deal to the prospective new principal owner.”

It’s pretty much exactly what Tim just said…designed and built in THN. loaded with quality products, etc.

saabserb
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1 year 7 months ago
@Tim: With all do respect to you and your sources it sounds pretty unrealistic that the negotiations are still going on, if M&M plans are “poor” as you pointed out. Basically according to your sources M&M wants to invest the existing NEVS plan, of which everybody knows that it is unrealistic and stumbled upon the first hinder. I still think that it is more from M&M that your sources tell you (or even know). As I said before I think M&M wants to invest long term in few models based on Phoenix platform, but meanwhile they would like to use… Read more »
No 9
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1 year 7 months ago

So Tim, you are saying SAAB really has no chances of surviving.

davidgmills
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1 year 7 months ago

Probably Saab Aerospace is toast as well. How can a company be so full of outrageous pride? The Indians just politely told them their plane sucks because it is quite inferior to India’s own new plane.

Where are they going to get buyers for their dated aircraft?

Red J
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1 year 7 months ago

On the one side, takes much longer than expected, on the other side SAAB AB is still discussing with the new owner.

In the original plan a decision was expected in December, now we have February and they are still talking, which means that both parts think that the brand issue has a solution. Hope they find the solution sooner than later.

theSandySaab
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1 year 7 months ago

I understand the problem with the SAAB brandname. While SAAB Defence is doing very well, most people believe the SAAB is bankrupt. This is to the detriment for Defence, the public’s perception that they’re out of business. To be dragged in and out of media headlines, questioning their viability by association to NEVS and Saab Cars is highly undesirable for Defence.
I strongly understand the unwillingness from Defence to let the troubled car manufacturing to use the name…

jond
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1 year 7 months ago

Yes, but customers for Defence are governments/large-scale organisations, who are likely to have done extensive research on the supply-chain and know very well the circumstances regarding Saab Cars and its impact on Defence.

phermansson
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1 year 7 months ago

Thats not the case, there was massive dis-information from Saab AB’s competitors when they tried to sell the Gripen aircraft and other military units to countries. There were a lot of lobbyists pointing at Saab Automobile AB and stating to unknowing defense customers that SAAB AB was in fact in financial difficulty. It made the life of SAAB AB very difficult trying to explain that there was no relation between the two… focus was shifted from trying to promote a sale to defending a standpoint… a very expensive shift…

Trued
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1 year 7 months ago

Dassault where the worst culprits. They even sent agent to raid Saab peoles hotelrooms at am international airfair.

Zach
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1 year 7 months ago

Yeah Saab Defense is a badass aerospace company with deep roots throughout the globe. NEVS would have to have something spectacular under their sleeves to convince them to lease the name again. Limited EV with an 80mph speed limit? Revival of the 9-1x concepts into a quality and fully integrated PHEV? Now we’re talking.

roger
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1 year 7 months ago

It’s only a matter of time(and money). NEVS is not in the negotiations about the name anymore.

This is from lokal newspaper TTela: http://ttela.se/ekonomi/saab/1.3751854–varumarket-ar-viktigt-for-oss-

Google translation: “- Negotiations about a change of control, the new owner must then be approved and you shall agree on the new terms. And there is an ongoing dialogue between Saab AB and the new principal owner. But they’re not done yet, and it has taken a little longer than we had hoped for.”

davidgmills
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1 year 7 months ago

I think your opinion of Saab Aerospace is quite overblown from what my friends (in Aerospace) tell me.

dcpattie
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1 year 7 months ago

Considering there wasn’t much of a market for these last year, I would rather Saab make a bunch of highly customized GT4 racers out of the remainder of 9-3’s. They’d probably fetch a higher price and cult following.

*Up the turbo to make 320 HP
*Custom Ohlins race shocks
*Manual transmissions only
*Hirsch inspired race bits (flat bottom setting wheel, aerodynamic package, sports exhaust)
*COTS Recaro sports seats

hughw
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1 year 7 months ago

you’ve got to be kidding…. these jokers only managed to bolt together a 9-3, because it was essentially the same car that was produced before. No way could they customize something.

3cyl
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1 year 7 months ago

Great idea, dcpattie (assuming regulators will allow a change in 2014 specifications), At this point, another 100 dated regular spec 9-3’s is a tough sell. Making these cars something special by emphasizing performance is the way to go. The 9-3 won’t be stellar in terms of refinement anyway so there is more to be gained by giving these last cars a raw edge. It would be nice to think that someone at NEVS has thought of what you suggest.

Chris Hansel
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1 year 7 months ago

Love to get my hands one, they maybe the last. I wonder how difficult it would to bring one in the U.S.? I used to know the rules, but I think they have changed. There was once a one time life exemption one per person from EPA regs, but I don’t think it still exist. Anyone know??

phermansson
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1 year 7 months ago

I think it can be done, I know a guy who imports corvettes to Sweden from the US and he also exports some specialized rare cars to the US markets. There is plenty of US 9-3’s out there so the parts to re-build the car to the US should be available! But I think it’ll be expensive.

If you want I can check with my contact if he is interested in helping you! He is a Saab specialist as well and the only one who was allowed to touch my previous Saabs other than me! =)

zippy
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1 year 7 months ago

Talk about flogging a dead horse. 🙁

Joe
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1 year 7 months ago

The vermin started feasting on the “dead horse” in 2010.
I guess the last morsel of decaying flesh has not yet been consumed by the lowest forms of life….

Daniel Hana
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1 year 7 months ago

“Volkswagen Rumored To Spin Off Heavy Truck Division” I wonder if this will have any effect on Saab Cars

“In addition, Volkswagen completely acquired the remaining portion of Swedish truck maker Scania in 2014. The German conglomerate owned the majority of Scania prior to the move, but set out to make it a wholly-owned subsidiary in 2014, completing the transaction late last year. The acquisition seems to further substantiate the spin-off rumor.”

http://motrolix.com/2015/02/volkswagen-rumored-spin-heavy-truck-division/

davidgmills
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1 year 7 months ago

What is the news on Mahindra? Does anyone really care about this other than the 100 or so buyers of these cars?

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