NEVS applied to leave reorgnization

According to the local newspaper ttela.se and to SwerigeradioP4 NEVS has applied to the court to terminate the reorganization period on the 14th of April.

They have chosen the 14th of April as the composition can be appealed until the 13th of April.

This is an already announced step, but it has been done now. After the 14th of April NEVS will be in a better position to negotiate with the new partners.

Next step is to present the cooperation contracts or new ownership contracts, and I don’t think we will have to wait long for that.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I guess this is good??? It’s hard to know anymore. This process has been so tortured and NEVS is so quiet at all times, it’s hard to even know what this means for the future, if there will be one. Good luck to them. Whatever.

hans h
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Yes. It is hard to write with your hands, fingers and toes crossed.
But I have been here all along.
🙂

Patrik H
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

Black Arrow
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

Stefan
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

Niklas G
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

theSandySaab
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

i. ant. kal.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

kochje
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1 🙂

SaabKen
Member
1 year 5 months ago

That makes 7. Anyone wanna go for 8 ? 😉

saabyurk
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Here’s no. 8 (or is it 9?) 🙂
+1

Brian Hamilton
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+1

Ward Schoonbrood
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Yes, still here and here to stay! Even in the best possible situation, the comeback of Saab will still take some time. But indeed, I agree with Red J, when things start rolling and there are more positive developments to talk about, more interaction will take place again. People can then look forward to a future for Saab, in that case waiting in the meantime is manageable with hopeful developments to anticipate.

JH
Member
1 year 5 months ago

The number of comments here isn’t very important, Angelo. What is important is whether there will be a reaction when something major actually happens or not. Time will tell. I for one am watching the events very closely (closer than most people outside NEVS) but there isn’t much to do right now but wait.

Marko Bezjak
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I am still here too ! And i am waiting and waiting …..and I realy hope,that one day,will be some new real saabs again.Expesely BIG sport combi.

Paul Willis
Member
1 year 5 months ago

This sounds promising. The article from the radio source indicates that there still is a licensing issue to work out with the Saab brand, which is of no surprise, but it is curious that NEVS continues to have the Saab logo displayed at these press events. Could be that SAAB AB have not yet yanked the license from NEVS, which also may be a good omen. Overall, this appears to be a major step in the right direction.

Dan P
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I can’t see the point of making the same comments every time after all these years. But I’m sure we’ll all wake up when something important actually happens. For now, I’m very happily into my older Saab’s, and looking forward to the day we see some interesting engineering and design come out of Trollhattan again. The brand is still special.

Richard
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Still here as well with hope of positive news in the near future

Jesse Crandle
Member
1 year 5 months ago
Ever day I check for new articles, I suppose I should comment more just so the makers of the site know we’re out here. I would hate if SaabsUnited closed down… I seriously hope they don’t, I hope they hang on at least long enough to know how this will end one way or another. I’m fairly certain this last decision is exactly that, if things can’t get sorted out here then the brand, all remnants of the factory and all, will liquidate. By this last decision I mean the “oem” who is interested and wants NEVS to be out… Read more »
zol10
Member
1 year 5 months ago
In the late 80’s and the early 90’s Audi was the softest car on the market. When VW purchased Audi, it took the company around 10 years to rise from the ashes, but today, they are one of the hottest selling cars on the market. Really don’t know why other than the DRL lights. I drove some Audi’s lately and wasn’t impressed at all. The same story goes to the Mini Cooper. So it is really irrelevant what happens tomorrow or next month, what really matters is the brand and the reputation of the car. If the name, Saab doesn’t… Read more »
RS
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+900

a) GM didn’t market Saab’s in a way that the THN factory capacity threshold would ever be jeopardised
b) Their own crap would be exposed

No wonder sales was slow…

RS
Member
1 year 5 months ago

In Bob Sinclare’s defence that was not the original plan though, until GM almost went belly up two years later.

One more time:
Saab-Scania and GM Press Conference (December 15, 1989)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUK0sdFTgd4

sandborg
Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Thank you for of the best remarks that I have seen in a while.
I do think of the better brands Audi is as close to SAAB as it gets but still not quite a SAAB.

LarsG
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I think we are still many Saab fan, but for now there is not much to say. Just wait and hope for the best.

Carlo A
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I am happy
Things are moving in the right direction and I hope to get great news soon

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago
I hope all of you are right that the Saab faithful will return if they’re given a reason. And I don’t necessarily mean return to comment on this site—but I mean return to buy Saabs or at least consider them. I do know something as a reality though: When you lose customers, it’s not that easy to get them back. You don’t just put an “Open” sign on the door and have everything go back to the way it was—-especially not after the damage that’s been done here. Yes, we are in a cocoon of people who love Saabs—-we are… Read more »
3cyl
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I guess the name on the badge is important to people, but I’d rather have a new car with a new name on the hood that maintains the SAAB qualities than a rebadged vehicle that with a SAAB label but lacking those qualities.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago
I agree with you 3cyl. And there are vehicles available now that replicate much of what Saab’s mission was over the decades—-in various model lines—from various manufacturers. None of them have the charm I’ve come to love in my Saab—-but some of these cars have the affordability and utility of the very early Saabs, the technology and sure footedness of the later Saabs—-and a mix of luxury and performance of the expensive Saabs. They’re not Saabs, but you can find tidbits of what you liked best about the various incarnations of Saab—-in other cars now on the market. As for… Read more »
Paul Willis
Member
1 year 5 months ago
I mostly agree with Angelo–its going to be a very long row to hoe. Look at it this way: when I got my first Saab in 1983, everyone said “what the hell is that thing?”. Later in the 1980s and early 1990s, the classic 900 got to be something of a Yuppie symbol and was even in a few Seinfeld episodes and that sort of thing. Folks then would say “I like your Saab.” Nowadays, its back to “what the hell is that thing?” Time is of the essence, and then some. I will disagree with 3cyl a bit. I… Read more »
3cyl
Member
1 year 5 months ago

You are probably right Paul, but in my defense I will point out that SAAB badges tend to fade away pretty quickly and we still love the cars so maybe the label isn’t so important.

Mark
Member
1 year 5 months ago

My first three Saabs didn’t have badges on the bonnet/hood so there was nothing to fade!

SaabKen
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Just get the replacement stickers …… pops right on to the faded badges !

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

I’ve come to like the plain silver badge, barely etched with the Saab logo. From a distance, it just looks like a silver medallion. I had my badge on the front replaced under warranty and it’s still quite colorful. The one on the back is starting to show signs of wear. When they fade or chip into silver again, I’m leaving them alone. I think it will be appropriate if Saab is out of business—-to have a car not really wearing a proper corporate badge.

John Kenyon
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Well Said Anjelo v Just hope and prey there is a next ,what a mess from something that was truly great.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago
John: Where there’s life, there’s hope. We’re on life support here, but not dead. Everything is pointing to a final demise for Saab automobiles. The tea leaves are saying that Saab AB wants to focus on their business and they don’t want a Saab Car division owned by someone else as baggage to worry about. My guess is they don’t feel there’s enough money in it for them to justify the aggravation. That said—-from what we know—-there hasn’t been a final “NO WAY, NEVER HAPPENING, NO ONE WILL EVER BUILD A SAAB CAR AGAIN.” So we can speculate that perhaps… Read more »
Jordan
Member
1 year 5 months ago
Even if NEVS/Saab pulls through this whole mess, how likely are we to see Saabs be produced to the whole “intuitive/safe” standard that we’ve come to expect from the brand? I definitely have been optimistic and hoping for the best outcome for all of this, but I’ve got this feeling that even if this all works out, the saabs that we have come to love and know are definitely long gone. Also, I believe they’ve also inadvertently pointed out that they only have one party interested in moving forward. Not only that, but it’s in regards to the technology sharing..… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Dropping some news has never been something NEVS believes in. And no, NEVS doesn’t deserve the last enthusiasts hanging on for them. I’m here hanging on for Saab, not hanging on for NEVS. It’s a contradiction to hang on for NEVS and feel as though you’re hanging on for Saab. Hanging on for Saab means pushing NEVS out of the way and having a new owner for Saab, if that’s even possible now. What an utter failure this has been.

SaabKen
Member
1 year 5 months ago

+99

I’m rooting for the return of the SAAB marque, and *not* for NEVS which as far as I’m concerned was/is SAAB Cars’ undertaker.

100%Saab
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Looks like only a handful cares?

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

And that number keeps decreasing. It’s a pity. Zero communication is going to result in zero interest at some point.

Joe
Guest
1 year 5 months ago

I think even the most ardent GM hater on this site will shortly yearn for the GM days of yore…

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Joe: I was a GM hater after they obstructed Muller’s final efforts to find a buyer/investors in 2011. In hindsight though—I realize that compared to NEVS butchering of Saab, GM was “the good old days.”

saaburban
Member
1 year 5 months ago
Saab as à brand has no value to any manufacturer or consumer of automobiles on its own. Its the combination of Saab + the model nr. of à serie produced vehicle, that creates à link to history and to the future. Eg. Saab 900 has value but just saab or the three digit nr. has none. A potential co-developer & a potential majoriy owner / investor in Nevs, knows that all equations will have to include the development of multiple models and to some extent production (although small) in sweden. Look at Qoros they have done it all in the… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago
I’m with you on most of what you wrote, though on Tesla, I’m not sure about “high numbers” for their sales. Compared to who? Tesla isn’t profitable and they are now missing product release deadlines by miles. Frankly, I’m not quite sure what all the Tesla hoopla is about. Sure, it’s a great visionary leading Tesla and creating a huge buzz—-he’s a smart guy and a master showman—-and maybe he’ll sell Tesla off to GM or some other company and make billions on it—-then focus on weekend trips to the moon or something—-but for now, the accomplishment is producing $80,000… Read more »
hughw
Member
1 year 5 months ago

SU had always been the “goto” place to find the latest and best Saab news, and yes, rumors and speculations….But lately, the editors seem less interested in keeping up with the latest going ons. Today, http://www.saabtala.com reported that they had called the district court and there appeared to be no roadblocks for Saab leaving reorganization tomorrow. Swadeology referenced saabtala this morning and also ran a quote from ttela.se that NEVS will then proceed with finalizing deals with OEMS…not exactly earthshaking news, but where are you SU?

hughw
Member
1 year 5 months ago

thanks a bunch Angelo. you know how to give someone a heart attack. first Swade, now you…and if you haven’t read what swade wrote see……http://www.swadeology.com/2015/04/exclusive-saab-assets-purchased-by-apple-computer/

Paul Willis
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Well, it may have been a belated April Fool’s joke, but I agree that the new venture should include a resurrection of the most recent 9-5. It barely saw the light of day but is the most developed of the platforms available. I don’t know if GM has any strings attached that could prevent this, but it would sure be a nice product to offer in a resurrected Saab.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 5 months ago

Yes, as far as I know GM has the property rights to most aspects of the last 9-5 and as of late 2011, they had no intention of granting those rights to a new owner—particularly with ties to China. The felt that would only enable competition to themselves in China.

Joe
Guest
1 year 5 months ago

Right. The Epsilon II platform, which the 2nd gen 9-5 is based on, is wholly owned by G.M. I don’t see the business wisdom in GM agreeing to share that platform with another re-badger.

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