Open day at Nevs in Trollhättan, Friday 5th June

SAAB Factory March 2013As earlier announced Nevs is going to have open day at the Technical Decelopment Center on Friday (June the 5th) this weekend during the Saabfestival, and we got this from Nevs today:

Nevs is going to offer different activities from 10:00 to 16:00, included a guided tour at the lab, there they will show how they develop and verify cars. There will also be info about the electric car by the program director of the electric cars, and the possibility to go with one of Nevs’s professional test drivers on a tour around the factory test track with a 2014 9-3 Aero.

Nevs offers continuously transport from Saab Car Museum and back, starting at 09:45

Program:

10.00/11.00/12.00/13.00/14.00/15.00
Lab-tour. 20min guided tour, introduction to Nevs technical facilities.

10.30/12.30/13.30/14.30/15.30
Seminar, 30 minutes. “From sketch to complete product”

11.30
Nevs future, presentation by Nevs CEO Mattias Bergman

10.00-16.00
Go with the professional test drivers on the factory test track with a 2014 9-3 Aero

Staff from Nevs will be available at the front desk shows you the way to the different activites.

Lunch can be eaten at Resturant Saltes, open 11:00 to 15:00

WHAT: Open day at Nevs, Trollhättan
WHERE: Nevs, Technical gate, Flygfältsvägen, Trollhättan
WHEN: Friday 5th June, 10.00-16:00, First transport from Saab Car Museum, 09:45

Patrik H
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Regardless of one’s opinions about NEVS, and man are mine negative, I definitely appreciate this gesture being paid to Saab’s fans. It shows that they aren’t 100% aloof. 90% aloof? Probably. But not completely lost.

These events actually sound extremely interesting to a Saab fan. Hopefully we will see write-ups about them.

NickT
Member
1 year 3 months ago

+1, LOL

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

In the spirit of “If you don’t have anything nice to say, stay silent.” I won’t comment beyond saying that it’s nice, this public outreach by NEVS. They’re a regular PR machine.

hughw
Member
1 year 3 months ago
Angelo, You’re such a cynic. All of us know for sure that NEVS will take this opportunity to show the face-lifted 9-3 that will go on sale October 1, show their sketches for their 9-2 concept to be produced next year, announce that they’ve come to agreement with GM to produce the 9-4 and the 9-5 including the SC, that SAAB AB has reversed their decision to revoke the SAAB name and NEVS has a license to use it freely and transfer to subsequent owners, and last but not least, they will announce the name of a new OEM majority… Read more »
hughw
Member
1 year 3 months ago

why us this awaiting moderation?

Androntrius
Member
1 year 3 months ago
Unfortunately we’ve had a lot of bad language and aggressive comments over the past year which have created a very poor mood on this site, so we decided to moderate all comments since two weeks ago. We have not had to remove more than a few comments fortunately, but it was often those bad comments that took over a whole thread and created an overall bad mood on this site. I hope you can appreciate that this is only to make it more pleasant to visit this site. Those who wrote in an aggressive manner have realized what we’re doing… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Hugh: If I had magic pixie dust to sprinkle on KJJ, I’d book a flight to wherever he is (Where is he, anyway?) and I’d coat him in pixie dust like a chicken drumstick in “Shake And Bake” and everything you predicted would come true.

mnztr
Member
1 year 3 months ago

I wonder if SAAB has issued a writ to NEVS to remove the SAAB signage from the factory yet. I think at this point it looks pretty certain the paths of NEVs and SAAB have diverged. They don’t even have the money to build the old 9-3. It will take several hundred million to bring a car like Tesla to market

Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

Agenda item:” Nevs future, presentation by Nevs CEO Mattias Bergman”
runs from 11:00 to 11:01 am.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

What is he going to do to fill the last 45 seconds?

Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

I heard he will show a video of Swedes Gangnam Style dancing.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Why show a video when he could have done it himself.

saabyurk
Member
1 year 3 months ago
I appreciate NEVS’ attempt to engage the Saab community, however, as Trued suggests, maybe this wasn’t a good time/way to do it. Once, or if, NEVS achieves financial stability, I think a good PR department should be a top priority. I wonder if Swade would consider a 2nd shot at Trollhattan? He would know how to do it. Maybe as a paid consultant working from home in Aussie-land? Sadly, I don’t think we’ll be hearing good news about majority owners anytime soon. Just Auto reported today: “Both parties are interested in having continuous dialogue, but we are not at the… Read more »
hans h
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Unfortunately, I can’t come to Trollhättan to visit the Saab Festival. But if I had, I would be very interested in what NEVS could show me. A future, I hope.
Why the do this, but don’t participate in the Saab Festival is something that I don’t know. Perhaps they have a better view of their future now, than they did then.

Black Arrow
Member
1 year 3 months ago

+1
It seems to me that some people around here take NEVS actions a bit personal…And I really do not understand why.

roger
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Agree to that! The posts from Joe, Angelo and Hugh is as usual both negative and childish. I can’t say I’m not bored reading their stupid comments.

Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

Thank-you Roger, for your kind comments regarding my posts.
I look forward to perhaps having coffee with you someday and collectively “crossing our fingers” for the success of NEVs and our beloved SAAB!

roger
Member
1 year 3 months ago

You’re Welcome!

Do you three guys think you’re doing good with your harassing of Nevs? Is it good or bad for the Saab community when you write stupid posts every time it is news about Nevs here at SU…?

Eugene
Member
1 year 3 months ago
I think the guys are trying to open eyes of people who are still so naive and childish and think that KJJ or any of the current opportunistic investors will do any good for saab remains or produce something really materials. I can only repeat that these guys are non-professionals, they are unable, mercenary, corrupt and everything like that. All these cities co-owners, state-owned economic zones are just ways to earn kickbacks on leaking the investment budget. That’s why the Quingdao did not fulfill its financial obligation – because they were not and interested investor. IMHO, just one of the… Read more »
Black Arrow
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Hi, Eugene.
My eyes do not need to be opened I’ll just wait and see what will happen. I guess that’s what most of us do, at least the ones who have a life.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

“Wait and see.” “Keep calm and carry on.” “Keeping fingers crossed.” Yeah, three years of…nothing.

Black Arrow
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Three years of crying on SU has also not shown its effeciency.

hans h
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Eugene, that is your view. Not in any way the truth. KJJ mat be just as disappointed as you, but we don’t know that.
Is your life such a “half-empty-glass” that you fel the need to take down others?

Eugene
Member
1 year 3 months ago

C’mon, are you kiddding? Did you hear of KJJ’s track record of doing ‘business’ in Sweden? If not, I suggest you read a bit about it (i think Tim posted something about that).

That’s nothing to do with my life, I am a happy man. However, I am a bit familiar with Chinese business culture and it differs quite a lot from the European, American or even Japanese. Not in a good sense of course.

hans h
Member
1 year 3 months ago

I am merely suggesting that you do not know any more about NEVS than I do, and still you claim to know everything based on the fact that you are a bit familiar with the chinese way of doing things. Which does not mean a thing.
What is the american way of doing things? Tesla or GM? What is the German way? BMW or Wartburg?

Eugene
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Hans, go on and analyse things.

You have a poor previous track record of the shareholder (search for NBE Sweden).
You have a couple of rotated unrecognised “investors” with unclear business interest and some Chinese municipal origin, one of which already failed to fulfil its obligations.
You have an unsuccessful attempt to do something with Saab estate, which ended up in bailing in the senior creditors (even before the shareholder) and completely broker trust.
Totally unable management team which has shown no progress even in building a car on a 2002 platrform.

These are facts, pal, nothing personal.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

The American way is GM, not Tesla. GM is huge, established for many decades and more representative of the U.S. market that tiny, upstart Tesla. BMW is closer to “The German Way” than Wartburg. This isn’t that hard to understand. There is a prevalent business culture in various countries around the globe. Eugene’s point stands strong. Doesn’t mean there aren’t good Chinese companies out there. I don’t believe NEVS is one of them though. There’s now a track record for us to examine. And it’s horrible.

hughw
Member
1 year 3 months ago
Roger, I’m a bit upset with you that you thought my last post was “stupid.” Frankly, I thought it was quite a brilliant bit of writing poking some fun at these jokers who haven’t delivered just about anything as they’ve stumbled along for over three years driving a once proud company into the dirt. Am I doing any good? Of course not. But am I doing any harm either? If anyone thinks a little bit of cynical writing can have any effect on NEVS, or their prospects, they are seriously deluded. Am I happy about the situation? Of course not?… Read more »
Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

Roger; Thank you once again, for proving my point…now let’s discuss: what would be more effective and mature; exercising one’s business acumen and opinion via posting, or “crossing one’s fingers”?

Avelik
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Expressing business acumen and opinion? For the last months the only thing you’ve been talking about is fingers. I didn’t know that obsession with fingers had anything to do with business acumen.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Maybe KJJ has an obsession with fingers too—-always having them in the cookie jar, or as the case might be, the cash jar.

Eugene
Member
1 year 3 months ago

That quite relevant point. NEVS may have good engineering team from old Saab, good investor relations and media contact and maybe even management and planning are not that bad. But they have very, very bad shareholder, whose key goal is to keep what’s left from estate at minimum possible cost. We don’t know anything about his financial ability (his holding is nothing but transparent), but the propensity is minimal.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

The real question becomes, is there a DNR in place here? A “Do Not Resuscitate” directive? It this patient goes brain dead, is this finally the end? Saab has been reborn a couple times, but I have a feeling, this time Saab AB has a DNR in place.

svengoran
Member
1 year 3 months ago

I think it is positive that NEVS informs the public about the current situation.
Hopefully i get a seat on the bus to the lab etc. on friday.

3cyl
Member
1 year 3 months ago

It seems a good gesture by NEVS. You are fortunate to be able to take part in the tour etc,

mattea
Member
1 year 3 months ago

It was shuttling with 9-3’s -14, and Peter Bäckström at the Museum promoted happily about the opportunity to visit NEVS, so no bitterness there.There were lots of visitors.

Hamish Keddie
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

Does anybody know what Mattias Bergman said at the open day about NEVS future? I would like factual answers only, please no puerile attempts to be funny.

Angelo V.
Member
1 year 3 months ago

The silence is deafening.

rune
Member
1 year 3 months ago
FWLIW: I did not attend NEVS’ session. Not because I did not want to or anything like that, but a 7-month old baby might not be ready for such places (the museum seem safer as we know there are places to change diapers and also facilities that would let us feed the little one). Our main goal of attending the festival at all was to meet up with old friends and show off our little guy (curiously enough: The only clickable picture in the recently posted gallery that seems to work is the one of him holding on to Swade).… Read more »
Avelik
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Swade mentions that we can expect a press conference this week where new partner/s will be announced. Did you hear something about this?

rune
Member
1 year 3 months ago
Yes, I think Mattias mentioned that the announcement would happen soonish. (or perhaps it was Swade or someone else who mentioned this in passing) To me, this hardly counts as news. If the new partner is big and invests accordingly, then it becomes news/relevant. It takes a big chunk of money to develop (and produce) the successors to the 9-5 and 9-3 (which seems to be what SAAB AB require from a licenseholder – and incidentally what I personally am interested in). More likely, the partner(s) will be small and NEVS will be run on a shoestring budget for years… Read more »
3cyl
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Since the begiining NEVS has made it clear that EVs for China is the plan and that remains their message. I am interested in how they accomplish this and wish them well, but I don’t expect anything that will encourage us to think that a new ICE car to replace our aging SAABs is on the even distant horizon.

rune
Member
1 year 3 months ago
Well, you are technically correct. But reading between the lines, as well as speaking to some of NEVS’ suppliers at the time (suppliers specializing in components that find little or no use in an EV…)… Plans existed for an ICE. I almost got a NEVS guy to promise me a 9-5 replacement in a relatively near future. All this was pre-bankruptcy of course. I say this knowing full well that I’m only bringing more questions than answers. Frustrated, me? Most definitively. The EV-only track, involving a generic EV design destined for foreign shores seems inevitable now. Still… The ex-saabers being… Read more »
Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

I say bring back the 2 Stroke!
I still use one as my daily driver…it farts a little too much, but hey, so do I!

Joe
Guest
1 year 3 months ago

Do you think they will post a synopsis of the days events on the website?
Sure would be nice!

hughw
Member
1 year 3 months ago

Fascinating and sad…..they hold an open day at the factory, and as far he I’ve heard, there’s not a glimmer of news about a new OEM or a new “real” Saab for the world market.

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