Pres Release: NEVS has been chosen by TÜBITAK as its partner for developing a Turkish National Car

TÜBITAK, (the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey) which has been assigned to develop “Turkish National Car” and realize this important mission, has chosen National Electric Vehicle Sweden AB, Nevs, as the industrial partner for the project.

The cooperation has started in June 2015 between Nevs and TÜBITAK and future industrial synergies in terms of development and manufacturing shall be generated with this cooperation. In the short term perspective this cooperation shall put Nevs’ assets to work and shall give Turkey quick access to extensive automotive knowledge and experience.

Nevs shall also provide its know-how in the developing of the business plan and establishing of the supply and distribution chains to TÜBITAK.

Together with the new shareholders Tianjin and SRIT, the partner Teamsun as well as the cooperation with Dongfeng Motor, the cooperation with TÜBITAK is an important step in building up Nevs as a strong automotive company with industrial, technological and financial partnerships.

“I am very proud to have this strategic cooperation in place. Turkey will be a long-term partner and we will both gain a lot from this cooperation. With Turkey’s focus on electric vehicles we also see this as an important step towards our vision of shaping mobility for a more sustainable future”, said Mattias Bergman, President of Nevs.

Facts about TÜBITAK

The Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey, TÜBITAK, is the leading agency for management, funding and conduct of research in Turkey. TÜBITAK was established in 1963 with a mission to advance science and technology, conduct research and support Turkish researchers.

TÜBITAK is an autonomous institution and is governed by a scientific board whose members are selected from prominent scholars from universities, industry and research institutions. TÜBITAK is responsible for promoting, developing, organizing, conducting and coordinating research and development in line with national targets and priorities. Further, TÜBITAK is one of the key institutions involved in the Turkish national car project.

http://www.tubitak.gov.tr/en

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 9 days ago

Indroducing Turkey’s New National Car! (Drum Roll Please)
The Brightwell Holdings 9-3 !!!!!! Available in silver or black. It might look like the same “Saab” 9-3 from the last 15 years, but it has redesigned headrests.

roger
Member
11 months 9 days ago

You’re soooo funny…

Romac
Member
11 months 9 days ago

Haha, with an ottoman instead of the back seat?
Seriously, this is great news, but yeah, the name “Saab” seems a bit out of place now.

sandborg
Guest
11 months 8 days ago

The “Turkaab” will have the best car floor carpeting in the world.

hughw
Member
11 months 9 days ago

It would be news if their partner was Apple, but this is what they’ve come up with after years of doing nothing,,,,,frankly, I’ve lost all faith in NEVS, not that I had much to begin with….and even SU is behind the times. I saw an article about the this on saabplanet.com three days ago.

Tasos
Member
11 months 9 days ago

Sorry to say, but this is ridiculous. They have totally ruined the brand name…

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 9 days ago

At this point, Saab AB needs to get lawyers deployed to remove “Saab” from NEVS. The name shouldn’t be on NEVS website, or on their building in Sweden—-it shouldn’t be anywhere within the NEVS universe. It’s time to separate the two aggressively. I don’t know the particulars of the agreement, but I would think Saab AB should have the right to exercise their ownership of the name by removing it from this clown car of misfits.

NickT
Member
11 months 9 days ago

Or Saab AB can stop by and buy the remains of Saab Cars and get rid of NEVS.

Tasos
Member
11 months 8 days ago

100% agree…

dcpattie
Member
11 months 7 days ago

NEVS and Saab should be completely separated, never to be aligned again! Allow for Christian von Koenigsegg to offer cars known as “Saab by Koenigsegg”. I think deep inside, Christian’s competitive fire wants to go head-to-head with Munich, Stuttgart, and Ingolstadt. Koenigsegg’s engineering greatness needs to be appreciated by more than the top 0.000001% of the population.

saabdog
Member
11 months 9 days ago

Haha! This is the best laugh I’ve had all day! “puts Nevs’ assets to work…give…access to extensive automotive knowledge and experience”. What a joke.

2T
Member
11 months 9 days ago

This might be good news for the NEVS followers but at this point I’m not sure this has its place on a Saab blog. I fail to see any relationship with Saab. Might as well start a thread on the VW dieselgate here as it has as much connection with Saab as this Tukish story.

2T

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 8 days ago

VW dieselgate is fascinating to me. I am very curious to know how high up the chain of command it was known at VW that they were cheating on the emissions testing. It was somewhat telling to me how quickly the CEO stepped down. Things are going to get a lot worse at VW before they get better—-if they ever do. This is going to be financially crushing to them.

3cyl
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Angelo, you have introduced a promising scenario. NEVS may be able to acquire VW at a bargain price — then NEVS can apply the experience they have gained in the turnaround arena to revive the brand.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Yes, NEVS can work on an electric version of the 1977 Dasher.

zippy
Member
11 months 8 days ago

Can this get anymore embarassing?!

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 8 days ago

No.

Mick E. Bice
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Don’t be so sure. NEVS may not be good at much, but surpassing themselves at embarrassment is something they’re actually quite good at.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 7 days ago
Actually Mick, I don’t think NEVS feels embarrassment, as in order to feel humiliation, you have to have some level of perceptive ability—and they don’t. This is more embarrassing to fans of Saab—-especially people who are car nuts and were identified as “The Saab Guy” (or Saab Gal) in the neighborhood. Now we have to answer for NEVS stupidity. My co-worker asks once in a while, when “Saab is coming back.” I used to tell him “Oh, they were bought by a Chinese company who is going to specialize in making electric Saabs—not sure yet when they will get back… Read more »
SaabKen
Member
11 months 4 days ago

Don’t underestimate NEVS. I hear rumors theyre negotiating with Bangladesh to turn the 9-3 into the Bangladesh national car ……

Joe
Guest
11 months 8 days ago

I love Turkish food…but cars? Not so much…

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 8 days ago

NEVS is going to make a believer out of you, Joe. Wait and see. The 9-3 will be the new official state car of Turkey, in black or silver.

Jesse Crandle
Member
11 months 8 days ago

Should be in either red or white. You know, for the colors of the Turkish flag. In fact let’s just make them all red and put a crescent with five pointed star on the hoods, no point in offering two color choices.

zippy
Member
11 months 6 days ago

Not gonna happen. They can only afford black or silver paint. Just about.

GerritN
Member
11 months 8 days ago
Tubitak is pretty much a Turkish government controlled institute. It is supposed to do a lot of basic research, but I’m really sceptical. Why? I do big science myself and I have never ever anything or anyone encountered that came from that institute which or who made enough of an impression to be remembered. And also, WTF is a ‘Turkish National Car’ supposed to be? Something with crocheted little curtains comes to mind. Jeez, I don’t understand why I’m still reading Saab news. Maybe I’m still hoping that I wake up one morning and that NEVS has folded and everything… Read more »
Trued
Member
11 months 8 days ago

Interesting reading in the post of this article. Is this one of Victor Muller´s old connections? From an “innocent” bystanders position I am puzzeled by a Turkish Governmental agency. Turkey has never been known for technological or scientific exellence. Ther might have been something during the Osman empore or the time with Alexander the Great. Wish NEVS goodluck in their business endeavours but I guess the SAAB brand name could be an issue with SAAB AB.

Tasos
Member
11 months 8 days ago

Alexander the great? He was Greek (Macedonia province, northern Greece) and lived in 330bc, nothing to do with ottomans…

Jesse Crandle
Member
11 months 7 days ago

That’s what “OR” means, Tasos. Ottoman Empire OR Alexander the Great. If he had meant it was both he would have said AND. Nice try, though.

Tasos
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Thank you very much for your English lessons… I really appreciate!

scand
Member
11 months 8 days ago
Well this is a head scratcher. Turkey has a well established car manufacturing industry. It already makes well over a million units a year, which puts it not far behind the UK in output. For example, all the Ford Transit Connects ( the small car based van) are made in Turkey. Aside from the concept developing ‘a national car’ , which sounds distinctly Soviet, you would think they would look inwards, to talents that obviously already exist in the country, and not have to pull in expertise from a Chinese company in Sweden, who currently doesn’t make any cars, and… Read more »
ingvar
Member
11 months 8 days ago

The SAAB name is out!
But who can blame NEVS the opportonity to survive?
Let`s see what the future might bee!
Like it or not

saaburban
Member
11 months 4 days ago

Saab AB seeks cooperation with Brazil in the development of the next generation Fighterjet.
In the same way, Nevs will only be able to develop technology through cooperations with other countries.
More co-development projects = the likelyhood of being able to design n develop its own models increases.

Nevs is the only realistic way to ever make ‘saab’ cars again.

Mick E. Bice
Member
11 months 7 days ago

So, Angelo, how’s your cat doing?

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 7 days ago

He still tips the scales at near 20 pounds, though he’s lost a little weight (used to be over 20 pounds). He’s still orange too. Now 14 1/2 years old.

Jacko
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Turkish national car – that could be a camel with a Saab badge on forehead and Nevs badge under the tail.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 7 days ago

Perfect.

Martin T16s
Member
11 months 6 days ago
I think this article should be retitled…….Depress release!!!!! Because that is exactly what it has done to me! It saddens me deeply to see that a new so called press release scrapes the bottom of the barrel of desperation. I mean really, is this some kind of joke? If this were April 1st I could understand it. This most certainly is no Turkish Delight!!! “Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey”, really? “Turkish National Car” really? It goes on to say ” has chosen National Electric Vehicle Sweden AB, Nevs, as the industrial partner for the project”. Chosen from what… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
11 months 6 days ago

The way I understand it, it came down to partnering with Porsche, BMW or NEVS. Tubitak was very interested in building on what NEVS has already done with the 9-3. Porsche and BMW had some good things to offer, but NEVS let it be known that they wouldn’t be distracted with other “challenges” like building and selling cars—-that the others are burdened with. Apparently, NEVS had nothing else going on so they could commit 100% of their effort to the program.

Martin T16s
Member
11 months 6 days ago

Brilliant Angelo!

Martin T16s
Member
11 months 6 days ago

NEVS……… No Exciting Viable Solution

SaabKen
Member
11 months 4 days ago

NEVS:

Nincompoops
Executing the
Vivacity of
SAAB

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 6 days ago

You thought I was joking. I thought I was joking. People: It’s no joke. Wow. Add the www or http or whatever. Enjoy the read.

.leftlanenews.com/turkish-government-buys-rights-to-saab-93-89982.html

NickT
Member
11 months 5 days ago

Wow! I’m flattered. Really NEVS? Sell the only car that you can build? How stupid can NEVS be? What’s the point of a new factory with nothing to build? I just lost all hope for the rival of Saab. It sure isn’t happening when NEVS is in charge.

Steve
Member
11 months 6 days ago

It seems a bit of asset stripping to me. They’ve sold the old 93 off to the Turks and they’re gonna build it from scratch mostly. So NEVS dont build anything still but they’re building a new factory in china to build something and still have a large factory in Sweden building nothing!!

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 6 days ago

Well, I guess the Turks could do a lot worse than the 9-3 for a national car. That’s a proven model. I wonder if the wagon and convertible models of the 9-3 will join the sedan in being Turkey’s national car? I’d love it.

Jacko
Member
11 months 6 days ago

I wish NEVS never bought Saab. It’d be better to bury Saab name and just enjoy last 9-3s and 9-5s that left Trollhattan. Now we have to watch that bloody disaster.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 6 days ago
Jacko: If NEVS never bought Saab, the alternative might have been for another company to do so—-such as India’s Mahindra, who actually build vehicles—-everything from tractors to small SUVs, diesel pick-up trucks, small cars, etc. There’s not doubt that they were interested, in much the same way that Tata was interested and purchased Jaguar, or Geely purchased Volvo. Now Saab was not nearly the asset/value of those companies—-but the name and old technology was enough that if the right deal had been worked out, Mahindra might have very well made the purchase. I believe if that had happened, they would… Read more »
Jacko
Member
11 months 6 days ago

I see your point Angelo but now it’s all gone, it’s only NEVS and nothing else.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 6 days ago

Yes, completely agree. What’s done is done. And it was done badly.

Hamish Keddie
Guest
11 months 5 days ago
To rehash old arguments, the difference between the Jaguar, Volvo takeovers and SAAB is that Jaguar and Volvo had existing products to sell, as a result of GMs denial of the rights, SAAB did not. That drove away most potentially interested parties. Only Mahindra apart from NEVS retained any interest, and according to the documents Tim posted here, the name issue was at least part of the reason for Mahindra’s withdrawal. . I see no evidence of manipulation on the part of the receivers, their job was NOT to secure the future of SAAB, but gain the best results for… Read more »
Avelik
Member
11 months 6 days ago
Guys, get yourself together! Depression, embarrassment, what on earth? Your behavior is childish. This news doesn’t say anything about development of SAAB cars, so it is terrible, awful news? How come? You only count news about SAAB as good news, but please tell me where is this news going to come from? Tell me how can SAAB get a chance to exist? But in this real world, under this circumstances, not in some fantasy possible world where VAG , FCA, BMW or some other three letter behemoth agrees to pour billions in the company so that you could be happy.… Read more »
Mick E. Bice
Member
11 months 5 days ago

How can SAAB get a chance to exist? Precisely by having some major automaker such as VAG, FCA or BMW take over the brand and operations and invest in it. One may argue that it is unlikely to happen, and that may be true, but it’s the only way SAAB may realistically be revived. NEVS? Forget it!

Oh, and your accusation that people here are “childish” is uncalled for. Common courtesy suggests that you apologize and retract said accusation.

Avelik
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Please don’t teach me courtesy, when here there are people, you included, who use really offensive words referring to people who are not here to respond, and you find nothing wrong in this. You enjoy it actually. That’s why I can’t accept that you find the word ‘childish’ offensive, I can’t. Especially when we really see absurd behavior from some commenters. Courtesy involves respect and many here obviously don’t know what respect is. Many here, you included, don’t respect people outside this forum and don’t respect people on this forum, because when you respect a forum you don’t act like… Read more »
Mick E. Bice
Member
11 months 5 days ago

To appeal to your common courtesy is clearly an exercise in futility, as your response is not to concede, but to double-down on the insults, with some mischaracterizations and straw man arguments thrown in for good measure. Oh, well, at least now I know what kind of person I’m dealing with…

Avelik
Member
11 months 5 days ago

I haven’t insulted you anywhere, neither have I used mischaracterizations. I find it hypocritical that you have said nothing in cases when people have used words like ‘idiots’ to characterize other people, but now you are very offended by the word ‘childish’. Interesting use of double standards. You chose to remain silent in those cases, please remain silent now.

Mick E. Bice
Member
11 months 5 days ago
It is nonsensical to complain about what personal example I purportedly constitute on this board as an excuse for not doing the right thing, i.e. apologizing to the posters here (not me in particular) for unfairly calling them childish. The fact that it was I who suggested that you apologize (as opposed to someone whose track record you would endorse), does not mean that the suggestion itself was without merit. Anyway, I’ve wasted too much time on this, and it’s time for me to get some sleep, let’s just say I don’t expect to wake up and see miracles… “God… Read more »
Avelik
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Allow me to disagree with you. First of all, personal example does matter and does give you or takes from you credibility. It does matter if the one accusing you of stealing something is a thief or a person who has never stolen anything. Second of all, I haven’t used your behavior as an excuse not to apologize for what I said. I used it only to show you don’t have the right to accuse me of supposed usage of offensive words. I haven’t used it as an excuse for what I said because I don’t have anything to apologize… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Avelik: Your approach is very analytical, patient and measured. But if I may ask you to reflect—-please imagine yourself detached from the situation—-an outsider, charged with reading a couple years worth of posts here. Do you not see that perhaps you are giving NEVS the benefit of the doubt when they’ve not done anything to deserve it? It’s one thing for some of us to be, perhaps overly critical of them. I did try to give them a chance for the first year—-but at this point, I have zero confidence that they will ever achieve anything worthwhile. Okay, maybe that’s… Read more »
Avelik
Member
11 months 5 days ago
The thing is, Angelo, that for the last months I haven’t seen failures from NEVS. They are actually moving in some direction and accomplishing things. These things may not be what some people hoped for, but this doesn’t make these things failures. The reason why I am giving them the benefit of the doubt is that l’m aware of the fact that accomplishing something in the automotive industry is hard, much harder than most people here realize (judging from their comments), and that it takes long time to see meaningful results. That’s why I am in no hurry to jump… Read more »
Hakan
Member
11 months 5 days ago

Good posts Avelik. Yes some people here are running too quick into conclusions, and in a way competing in being sarcastic. But joking is maybe funnier than being patient? I suppose people here are frustrated after so many years of turmoil. As I see it, the last half year or so, brought us some real news and a company that is now standing on its own feet. For the moment, I am satisfied with that.

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Hakan: Wouldn’t a company have to be making profits to truly be standing on their own feet? I don’t even consider Tesla to be standing on their own feet, though they are a lot closer to that endeavor than NEVS is. Sorry guys, but I don’t see “real news” as it pertains to Saab cars. This is “Saabs United” a forum for people who own Saabs or are Saab enthusiasts. I think to most of us, “good news” would have something to do with restarting production of Saab cars—-news that’s somehow related to that, even if it’s planned for the… Read more »
Hakan
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Angelo: I can agree on all things you write here in your latest post, despite your conspiracy ideas about the “take over”. I am also looking forward to good news, not only real news. I believe in the 350 or so employees at NEVS. As I receive it from articles in ttela, they seem also to be loyal to NEVS and their visions. The Tubitak news, is perhaps not directly related to future saabcars, but maybe this alliance will improve NEVS possibilities to develop future saab cars. If we are to see some new saabs in the future, I guess… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
11 months 5 days ago

Did you cut and paste my link? Apparently, they’re developing the 9-3 to be Turkey’s national car. That’s fine, that’s nice. As I said, maybe they’ll get the wagon and convertible too. It can be a “9-3 jamboree!” That line-up would still be better than a lot of 2015-2016 cars being sold right now. And Avelik, BAIC has been anything but embarrassing. They’re actually building cars—-building cars based on previous generations of Saabs. I wish they exported them to the U.S. They’d find buyers here, believe me.

jond
Member
11 months 4 days ago

I see that BAIC highlight the ‘SAAB-based turbo technology’ as well as ‘Japanese transmission’ in the brief online blurb for the A5, the top ot their range. That is actually some compliment for such a large manufacturing group and illustrates the remaining power of the Saab brand in the market. However, we might argue with the statement that the A5 is the ‘the first turbocharged sedan in the world’. Perhaps something was lost in translation?

Avelik
Member
11 months 3 days ago
Maybe with the sentence “The A520T/A523T is the first turbocharged sedan in the world, combining a power scope of 150-184w and a torque scope of 290-350Nm.” they want to say that it’s the first sedan having these particular power and torque characteristics which is certainly not true, so in any way this sentence sits strange. It is not unusual to encounter such sentences while reading promotional materials from Chinese auto companies. Anyway, BAIC deserves congratulations for what they have done in terms of product development. A thing I don’t get, though, is why they designate their sedan range with the… Read more »
Jacko
Member
11 months 5 days ago
Well, NEVS own Saab now. It’s been over 3 years by now and not a single word about making new Saab cars, just nothing at all. Look at all the news we received lately – they are teaching Trollhattan staff to speak Chinese and getting involved in developing Turkish national car. How is that related to what we’re waiting for? And how long do we need to wait? Even if it meant to be in 3 years time or 5 years time – I’m still happy to wait, but now I don’t know what I’m waiting for. Should I start… Read more »
Avelik
Member
11 months 5 days ago

Well, you should understand that given the current relationship with SAAB AB they can’t freely talk about their plans about SAAB. But during these 3 years they have talked about what cars they want to make on the Phoenix platform, including presenting a possible model range. That’s not nothing at all.

Hakan
Member
11 months 5 days ago

Don’t forget the production of 9-3 MY2014

Paul Willis
Member
11 months 4 days ago
I think that the Turkish government wants to move from just having a plant that builds others’ cars to having its own industry capable of building its own cars. They may start with someone else’s design, but that is actually a good step forward for them. As far as NEVS is concerned, this is the sort of thing they intended–work with partners, even building someone else’s cars in the Trollhattan plant, if I recall. So I am not surprised about this. It’s almost as if NEVS is an industrial consulting firm–we will do this for you, that for them, etc.… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
11 months 4 days ago
Good summary and all true. But I do think it’s sort of a stretch to believe that for the long term, that factory in Trollhattan will be used to build cars for export to China or Turkey. As people here have been saying for the better part of there years, that’s economically upside down. This is why I was so opposed to NEVS originally—-when I heard the idea of building electric cars primarily for China. That factory is high cost—-perhaps, depending on currency, it’s still realistic to build there to ship to North America and other parts of Europe, where… Read more »
Avelik
Member
11 months 4 days ago
I still don’t get why people here continue to say their primarily plan was to build cars in Sweden to export to China. They announced plans to build a local production facility very early on exactly with the purpose to allow better access to the Chinese market. They were going to export in the beginning but this doesn’t mean their long term strategy was built around that. And I will tell everyone who thinks that NEVS has no interest in other markets than China and after building the Chinese facility they will close the Trollhättan facility, that no Chinese company… Read more »
3cyl
Member
11 months 4 days ago
Things would have been different if NEVS’ Chinese investor had not pulled out. I am not saying that NEVS’ original plan would have succeeded but if their access to capital had not been cut off, production of SAABs (including the EV) would have gotten further along than it did. It would have been interesting to see how things played out had the original financial structure and related Chinese market access been maintained. Given what happened, it is understandable that SAAB cars don’t seem to be part of the current plan. Nonetheless, NEVS appears to be doing what it can to… Read more »
Jacko
Member
11 months 4 days ago

Are you guys pretty sure NEVS has license for Phoenix platform? I was in Trollhattan Saab Museum last summer and couldn’t see Phoenix so I asked staff member about it and been told the only one existing Phoenix was damaged during transport. Now I’m thinking if that’s true or rather NEVS didn’t want Phoenix to be exposed to the public if they really do something based on that platform.

Avelik
Member
11 months 3 days ago

NEVS owns the Phoenix platform. The Phoenix concept car was damaged during transportation from an auto show or to an auto show (from New York to Sweden, if I remember correctly). There are pictures of it on the Internet. The fate of the concept car is not relevant to what NEVS can do with the platform in terms product development. It is still interesting to know where the concept car is stored, though .

Jacko
Member
11 months 3 days ago

Just went through google but found nothing about that accident, not a single pic or article…

Avelik
Member
11 months 3 days ago

Swade had an article with pictures about the incident on his blog Swadelogy, but this site is currently down, so you won’t find the article. The car wasn’t car crash – type damaged, it wasn’t totaled, but some of its parts were broken. It looked totally repairable, so I wonder were it’s now, it could still find it’s way to the museum, if something else hasn’t happened to it in the meantime.

Paul Willis
Member
11 months 3 days ago

That is a good question, and I have forgotten whether NEVS has those rights. If it does, then that provides a good platform for further development with its partners. Can someone speak to that??

Angelo V.
Member
11 months 3 days ago

By the time NEVS does anything with that Phoenix platform, it’ll be about as relevant to modern transportation as the stagecoach is.

Avelik
Member
11 months 3 days ago

We have discussed this with you many times and we all know that what you are saying is not true.

SaabKen
Member
11 months 3 days ago

Would you care to provide your reasoning behind your rebuttal ? Just saying you don’t think what Angelo said is true doesn’t hold your end of the argument.

Avelik
Member
11 months 3 days ago
I have provided my reasoning quite a few times in previous discussion I had with Angelo. To put it shortly, the Phoenix platform cannot be dated today, because it is not finished. You can’t give evaluation of the qualities of certain thing before it is finished because it can go through many changes until it is finished. It’s like saying a painting will be ugly by the time it is finished while it is being painted. You can’t say this, because you have no idea what it will look like. Phoenix is a name. If NEVS now make drastic changes… Read more »
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