Tomorrow

NEVS new homepage
Maybe any of you has noticed it, but NEVS has changed the homepage of their site. The pictures of the MY14 9-3 are gone, which is good from my point of view, but on the other side the homepage is as vague as it could be. We know what they mean, but who else does? Ok, maybe all the people that visit that site knows about it.

But has this anything to do with Tomorrow(Monday)? No, I don’t think so, and as NEVS is not appearing in the exhibitors list of the Geneva Motor show, I expect, that we will be seeing those northern lights for the next weeks.

But tomorrow something will happen at NEVS facilities, something that I consider quite strange, but something that has a clear message.

On Monday January 25 at 13:30 CET the press is invited to a talk with Matias Bergman, CEO of NEVS, and Stig Nodin, head of technical development at NEVS, at the technical development center. The event is centered of the presentation of the last acquisition of NEVS, one of the rare prototypes of the electric Van that Saab developed in the ’70.

To acquire this car has a strong message, namely they want to be related with the past of SAAB. But on the other side it feels strange to me, that they spent money on this prototype, while a better looking version of it is dusting at the back rooms of the SAAB Museum.

To be honest, I’m not sure if this yellow E-Van still is at the museum, as this was one of the cars that were on sale in 2012, but I would have preferred to see some kind of cooperation between NEVS and the SAAB Museum.

I’m sure I don’t know the whole story, maybe not even a small part of it, so let’s wait till tomorrow to hear what NEVS has to tell.

BTW, this prototype was bought by NEVS back in November 2015 in the Netherlands, you can find some articles about that on other blog sites.

Romac
Member

Yeah, saw it the other day. Perhaps Geneva is where the new brand name is announced?

Alphonse
Guest
Alphonse

Perhaps not… NEVS so far has had a hard time even being able to get passes to shows like Geneva since they are not an actual manufacturer yet…

Angelo V.
Member

Well, since I won’t be able to make the press event, I’ll be watching NEVS website for full details. I’m sure they will post a great update immediately—-maybe even live stream the press event. Yeah, right.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

get out of the snow angelo and make the press event I will make the foot notes.

FW
Member

something strange will happen? Saab logos will be taken away from the buildings?

FW aka GMVMNEVSififif

Mick E. Bice
Member

Siempre mañana…

Romac
Member

tristemente cierto

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

romac it’s now 17 hr45 m and nevs is still dead on their web site. tristemente cierto.

Sockmonkey
Member

Seeing as NEVS immediate business plan in China is to build EV busses and vans along with the 9-3, this seems a calculated move to link Saab’s early EV work to the current ownership. I very much hope I’m wrong, but if this is the case the only people who will be impressed will be the gullible Chinese press and some Asian investors. Everybody else will see it for what it is.

Angelo V.
Member

We can only hope. But some people are so desperate, they will latch on to any tiny morsel and convince themselves that NEVS is Saab. No, they’re not. And the sooner that Saab name is stripped from NEVS, the better.

Carlo A
Member

Angelo, thanks for your kind words for the “so desperate” that latch to any tiny morsel.

Now that you have understood that SAAB is not SAAB anymore and wish so strongly the SAAB name to be stripped from NEVS, I wonder what are you still doing in this SAAB blog and when you will start writing on the blog of your next favourite marque?

By the way, have you asked yourself why the SAAB name is not stripped from the NEVS website yet, or from the factory buildings? Did SAAB AB run out of lawyers? Maybe!

Angelo V.
Member

This is still a Saab blog and I still love Saab. When they change the name to “NEVS DIVIDED” I might not post as much. Thanks for asking.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Carlo A you just don’t get it.

Carlo A
Member

Monique, please explain. I am sure you are willing to share …

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Only this they are not swedish by origin and they speak my native language .

Mailr
Member

Well, some official interviews coming out the last weeks that indicate that NEVS is aiming for producing a Phoenix based car in Trollhättan starting 2018,

Angelo V.
Member

And I’m aiming to date Megan Fox.

Jesse Crandle
Member

I hope you like kids, she’s got a 3 and 1 year old.

Angelo V.
Member

I have an 11 year old and soon he’ll be old enough to babysit them while she and I go out on the town.

Jasper
Guest
Jasper

Who knows?

Michael Specht
Member

Surprisingly, NEVS still displays the SAAB acronym on its pages, bottom left.

Carlo A
Member

and surprisingly the website is still http://www.saabcars.com

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Just wait and you will be surprised.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

some things in life will never change saab is such a thing.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Cold as ice in winter time running through stockholm downtown fully covered by mud due to the spikes in their tyres and still looking as a real saab.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Where is the time That THT was full and saabs were assembled in malmo,finland and austria.

Jasper
Member

It’s almost tomorrow.

Romac
Member

Casi mañana

Meanwhile there’s always nevsmodels.co.uk — google always gets confused 😉

saabboy1
Member

Ok so where is the news?

sonett71
Member
Not much needs to post, because all the other great posts here by Angelo V and many more people. Just one thing: Nevs have strongly surprised me with a lot of great news in the recent weeks, and I have changes my opinion a lot. Most of all I want the Saab name back to Nevs, because we can see a much stronger future than many of us could be thinking about. I’m sure the cars from Trollhattan (with any name) will be a great add to the car market around the world. They will be a better alternative than… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member

Well I hope I can be happy too like you are. If NEVS makes any sort of meaningful announcement about building cars and exporting them to North America, I’ll listen. Until then, I will target them as outsiders who destroyed what was left of Saab.

Carlo A
Member

Angelo, I actually think NEVS “saved” what was left of SAAB.

I do not recall a line of qualified parties, say BMW or PSA or FCA or PSA or else, in the front of the liquidators’ door to submit an alternative offer to buy SAAB … maybe I do not remember correctly … do you?

Angelo V.
Member

I remember what appeared to be a manipulated process to make sure the carcass went to NEVS. Mahindra was an actual car company that had accomplished something and they were interested, but thrown off the trail.

Carlo A
Member

A “manipulated” process? Then the liquidators were bribed? Mahindra were interested? Then the liquidators acted against the interest of the creditors? The Swedish Government was a creditor also, was it not?

WOW, I am speechless Angelo. You really have access to some “hot” confidential stuff here!

Angelo V.
Member
Carlo: Based on the spectacular failure that NEVS has been, I think it’s safe to say the bankruptcy receivers didn’t act in the best interests of Sweden, or the town that employed thousands of people at a car building plant. “Green” was in the air, and when “electric cars for a sustainable future” was floated, some really stupid people might have bitten on that farce without bribes even being attached to it. Suffice to say, regardless of “how” or “why” we know that conditions were put on the sale and process that left some potential players gun shy and out… Read more »
Carlo A
Member
Angelo, I am sure you agree that there is a big difference between: 1) NEVS have been a “spectacular failure”. This is your opinion on what NEVS have delivered to date, and your opinion must be respected; and 2) saying that the sale to NEVS was something that “appeared to be a manipulated process” and “Mahindra were interested” thus implying that the process was faulty with serious damage to the stakeholders, primarily the creditors. This you do not know but you only guess, you are only speculating and making some very serious accusations. If you have final evidence about your… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
The point wasn’t that there is a correlation between the two, Carol. The point is that it was a mistake because if a different party was chosen, things might be a lot better now for everyone involved. And yes, it was reported at the time that the process was strange in that things that had been described as part of the landscape changed AFTER Nevs won. And if those things had been part of the deal to begin with, others might have bid. Have you ever been part of an RFP process? I have, several times. There are ways to… Read more »
Carlo A
Member

Since you “assert that the conditions were announced to push out other bidders—-and the conditions changed after it was whittled down to NEVS” I urge you to contact the authorities in Sweden to report this!

PS: since you have been part a RFP process several times, you know very well the agenda of the Liquidators may very well differ from yours

Angelo V.
Member
Well, to be fair, I think the Receivers were charged with getting the most for the stiffed creditors that they could, and in fairness to them, NEVS might have met that criteria—-but I can raise two concerns: 1) NEVS might have been the one to meet that criteria based on others dropping out under false pretenses, I.e. as I said above, “steered” to NEVS. 2) Maybe something else should have been considered—–and that is how this would impact the world beyond the creditors, meaning jobs in that part of Sweden, the bigger picture. And I think it’s fair to say… Read more »
sonett71
Member
I’m sure Nevs have a future in the USA and in the rest of the West. We just have to give them some time to put out great products. Sadly it can take 2-4 years before we can buy the cars I want for the markest in the West, but it will help a lot if the business in the East will kick off in a good way, and they can make a lot of money for the devlopment of the new cars for our markets. I’m sure Nevs will not produce cars only for the East market, and I’m… Read more »
Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

sonett71 nice logo on the left i have all solo cds of lee hazelwood

sonett71
Member

Thank’s, and yes Lee Hazelwood is great. And the Saab Sonett III in the movie “Cowboy in Sweden” is very nice. 🙂

Angelo V.
Member

No doubt, NEVS acquired that 1970 Saab EV mail delivery vehicle concept to reverse engineer it for their new technological breakthrough for 2018. Maybe they’ll get a municipal contract in China for a fleet of these. Sure, the concept is almost 50 years old, but it’s advanced in NEVS’ world.

Carlo A
Member

I find your sarcasm annoying and unnecessary to the benefit of this discussion …it ia a piece of the SAAB heritage and I am happy the brought it back to Trollhattan

Jasper
Member

Agree with you Carlo. Do what I do with his comments, take it from where it comes.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

EVERY BIRD SINGS HIS OWN MELODY.

Carlo A
Member

Monique … every bird sings the melody it can …

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

And by his natural chords. The beautiful sound coming up from stairs is not nevs at the very moment right now .Have you heard any thing? I do BUT may not tell you.

Carlo A
Member

Monique, I am very happy to hear things when they will be communicated to the public ….

Angelo V.
Member

When the time is right, NEVS will speak.

Confucius say: “The winds of change can take a lifetime. May NEVS fly on eagles wings to Jupiter so we never hear from them again.”

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Agree carlo but sometimes it’s better to say nothing at all.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

And keep your mouth shut.

Carlo A
Member

By the way Monique, I used to play the “I know but I am not going to tell you” game when I was 6 y.o.

I guess you are an adult, therefore I invite you to keep “your mouth shut” as you very correctly suggest right at the beginning, rather than making some very childish remarks like “Have you heard anything? I do BUT may not tell you”.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Carlo just relax, don’t be aggressive as expected from a saab driver. I saw your posts against angelo in the same way. It makes no sense.I Am impressed about your games at 6 y.o. you must have a nice child time than, be lucky . See every thing in the context and don’t react in the same way as you where 6 y.o. But than you just don’t get it.

Angelo V.
Member

Maybe you guessed wrong, Carlo. We don’t know if Monique is an adult. She could be a young high school student who loves Saab and wants the ability to buy a new one when she starts driving.

Angelo V.
Member

And Monique can also be a guy—-and in different regions, that name can be for a male or female, though in the U.S., it’s always a female name.

E. Boon
Member
Angelo, people like you and me assume NEVS is aiming at manufacturing goods for sale to make a profit. For some this has become an old school business model. More and more I see relative small companies with a bunch of CFO’s, CEO’s, COO’s, Presidents and Vice Presidents who’s main achievement it is to get investors (or governments) to put money into an idea. “Look at our prototypes, if you put in your money, we make the fantasy come true”. Some of us clung onto NEVS as saviors of SAAB cars. But the initial idea of European manufactured EV’s for… Read more »
Monique Hubrechts
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Monique Hubrechts

I am with you on this. Some thoughts: CFOs are the most important ones of the 5 mentioned. The small rich upper class in china is rising rapidly. landrover in china has full assembly in china whatever that really means. About nevs we have to wait before a complete blackout of their batteries happens.

Angelo V.
Member
Yes E. Boon, a lot of business today isn’t about filling a need with a product—-and making money. It’s more about moving piles of money from one place to another. That’s a skill set that can make someone wealthy beyond belief, while victims are bamboozled, in some cases, those victims being taxpayers. It used to be that a much different skill set was needed—-the ability to engineer a product and bring it to market before you were rewarded. Now, there’s money floating around, and you’re absolutely right—-charlatans can conspire with others to sink their hooks into that money without accomplishing… Read more »
E. Boon
Member

Sustainability, green and environment are todays buzz words to start a flow of money. Though the subject itself is very serious, it’s misused by many charlatans.

Angelo V.
Member

Bingo.

saabdog
Member

And buzz words to control people.

E in DC
Member

So, did anything actually happen on Monday, press conference or otherwise?

Also, I’ve said it before, but I still think it’s bizarre that the SAAB branding is featured so prominently on the NEVS website, not to mention they use it in their domain name. You’d think the lawyers would’ve pushed to have it all removed a lot quicker.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

God only knows. THe beach boys.

David Hay
Guest

Just drove a hundred miles through a rainstorm that lasted pretty much the whole trip. My old C900 felt safe and secure and i passed a few BMW’s, Jags and Mercedes just to illustrate that the grand old SAAB mark still can do the business.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

david do you saw the picture link given by me about the 900c?

David Hay
Guest

Yes Monique, beautiful car, a really nice automobile.

FW
Member

so what happened except nothing?
nothing to show except a 1974 soapbox?
come on, NEVS we surely know that money just was wired to you and newe models ain’t ready yet but a teaser would not have been too bad?

FW aka GMVMNEVSififif

Angelo V.
Member

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. NEVS is nothing.

Monique Hubrechts
Guest
Monique Hubrechts

Last teaser from mr MB of nevs was:We won’t be sharing these details today, wait for the launch and we tell you if it is a saab car or not.

hughw
Member
So there was no “tomorrow” when tomorrow was supposed to happen. No new visual identity except a generic northern lights background on a web site as moribund as NEVS apparently has been. Every business success that I’m aware of has attempted to excite existing and new customers by peeks and hints of the future, leaked information, concept cars, and on and on….Other than building an ancient 9-3 modified as an EV for China, NEVS has done nothing to provide any confidence to the automobile world that there ever will be a viable SAAB for North America and Europe. And if… Read more »
FW
Member

OT: btw talking about Volvo, what do you think about this design?

http://www.pkw.de/ratgeber/autonews/lada-vesta-cross-concept
imho the best Volvo ever designed
. If NEVS does not manage to get all these new vehicles on the road, this Swedish designed car from Russia could be a fine alternative

FW aka GMVMNEVSififif

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