• RS commented on the post, Food for thought 2 days, 8 hours ago

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    Thyl, these are luxury products not ment for mass markets and they were able to keep the name.
    I was painting a picture of what would happen if THN lost it for good. Bentley cars were sold like crazy during the boom only because they we ‘Bentley’.
    Of course you can start a company from scratch but it takes a decade or two to build a name for…[Read more]

  • RS commented on the post, Food for thought 3 days, 4 hours ago

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    If the new JV want to sell high quality cars in the west they need the SAAB name or it will be an other Asian owned brand few have ever heard of, not to mention trust.
    The general public (new cars buyers) won’t flock to buy a ‘Griffin’, ‘Aero’ or whatever anyone can come up with because people buy into brands.
    Strip any company from it’s…[Read more]

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    Absolutely. They need to show and commit to investing some serious cash and the plan must be air tight this time around.

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    All they need to do is to agree on what kind of new vehicles are worthy of the SAAB name. Which can infact be quite difficult.
    Here’s an idea: Unless a model is developed and also built in Sweden it can’t have the badge until 9 year since launch. This way other plants around the world could assemble these cars for local markets and carry on doing…[Read more]

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    Are all Chinese companies like this?

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    TT, I never understood why ‘the Crew’ let AV take over the comments section? I too would have rather read different oppions instead of the same mantra about cheap Saabs, the government is evil, Muller cars etc. a 1000 times. The regulars got fed up with the preaching. It’s not like they’re gone. Every time there’s a poll huge numbers show…[Read more]

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    I thought we were past this. VM who had nothing to do with the development of the 9-5, remember? Price range roughly 40 – 60K USD. First cars to arrive in NA were all V6′s because SCNA though the Turbo4 wouldn’t cut it with the press, after which everyone over there started screaming about the 50K Saab and it’s been sticking like **** with you…[Read more]

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    Absolutely agreed. They would have sold every factory in the country to the Chinese at some point.

    BTW Rune, what do you think of Angelo’s persistent opinion that Saab could never compete with the premium German makes with ‘crazy expensive’ cars like the NG 9-5? ;)
    The perception of Saab in NA must have been totally different from ours. Was…[Read more]

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    Darn edit not working.

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    Any bets that it would be 10 times easier and better to build Saabs on a completely new platform than take anything from Mahindra’s lineup and make the necessary changes so it could be even remotely accepted as a ”Swedish” car?
    Rebadging an Indian thing would be worse than the Opel platform disaster imo. Cpuld easily imagine the international…[Read more]

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    maanders, +1
    It looks like SAAB AB doesn’t necessarily agree that rebadging any Mahindra vehicles is the best way forward.
    Lisence the name and who says the ”quirky”, yet affordable Mahindra Alfa won’t suddenly become Saab Alfa (dear lord)…

    PS. I didn’t like getting a spam warning for entering the Mahindra cars page.

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    Well, if Mahindra is going to build a ‘real Saab’, one I just listed, there’s the checklist what they need to make in the future or there is absolutely no point in going after the brand name IMHO. If it’s $60.000+ (RWD) sedans or for Indian diplomats or rebadged stuff only then it’s good night Saab for sure.
    Actually I personally don’t care what…[Read more]

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    I don’t think of myself as fuzzy around the edges. Just need a practical, safe, reliable (smartly engineered) car that handles well in all conditions, doesn’t look awful, has enough power to overtake fast, got features that makes the driving easy and pleasing all year and it won’t break the bank when you get yourself one.
    Mahindra you’re listening?

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    Tim my friend, (we’re still friends right? ;) ). It’s not your fault that NEVS lost their investment partners for one reason or an other and ran out of money.
    Take a leave of absence for as long as you need to. Maybe they get Mahindra onboard soon and SAAB 3.0 starts in a few years.

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    Of course trying to sell the wrong variant, a basic petrol engine and an Aero badge for 290K SEK -online only- did not help very much either.
    But sure, lets put the blame on the customers or the car.

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    What you describe applied to the US where GM totally burned Saab years ago.
    If they can sell the “antique” 9-3 that drives better than a VW (IMO especially in the snow) with a similar price tag and it generates gross profit they should do it.
    About 20 dealers lined up right away in Sweden to sell the NEVS Aero. Must be proof of something…

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    I didn’t say they’d have to give them away. There must be a sweetspot for a 9-3 SC where you can max sales with gross profit. Saab Cars won’t be in the black this decade anyway so why not soften the blow and help the dealers with the mature 9-3, unless the parts are now so much more expensive NEVS would have lost money on every car produced?
    Even…[Read more]

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    3cyl, unfortunately this is how the most successful car manufacturers operate even today and it’s working like clockwork. They put out the starting at variants like the not so exciting 105 hp Golf wagon for 186.000 SEK (219K with a 1.4 L, 122 hp engine and a crappy DSG) to get people interested.
    In 2007 you could get a new 9-3 Turbo SC for 215K…[Read more]

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    Avelik, absolutely if you’re into base Volkswagens and only want a car that takes you from A to B, however you own a 9-3 or 9-5, right. Why? Price is just a small part of the puzzle. It would probaly take only 2 percent of the Golf and Jetta’s worlwide sales to put Saab back on the map until they have a new engine range. Most Saabers go upmarket,…[Read more]

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    No 9, I don’t know if they could compete against Jetta and the Mexican labor prices in N.A., but in Europe no one in their right mind would buy a Jetta with a 1.4 L engine and DSG transmission if you could have a 220/260 hp facelift 9-3 SC with a crazy warranty for a tad more.
    VW’s quality issues are so widely known that it could really work to…[Read more]

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