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by Rune

Safe to buy a Saab in Sweden

April 30, 2011 in Editorial

Vi Bilägare today posted a summary of the potential pitfalls of buying a Saab in case the sky is falling.

First up they cover the warranties:

The warranty is a contract between the buyer and the resaler. This is entirely independent on whether Saab continues its existance or not.

Second issue is spare parts:

Among the most important assets that will befall the government should Saab not be able to repay the EIB loan is the spare parts business supplying parts to the 1.5 million Saabs rolling around all over the world. It will remain a profitable business for at least ten years, which translates to good availiability of parts for the consumer

The third issue discussed is the second hand value:

For Swedish business customers, this has been solved by the dealers who now guarantee the residual values. For private buyers there exists no such guarantee. But we must keep in mind that it was the OG 9-5, a completely outdated model that was struck the hardest during last years residual value turbulence. The residual values of the new 9-5, especially the new combi shipping this summer, will most likely stand more firm in a worst case scenario.

So, in conclusion: If you really want to make sure you have everything covered, then just buy an extra Saab.

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by Swade

Saab USA lease offers

March 10, 2011 in Saabology

I’m hearing a lot of talk about the need for Saab to fix leasing in the United States.

I’ve just taken a look at Saab’s latest leasing offers in the US, and I’m struggling a little bit to see what’s so lacking. In saying that, I fully acknowledge that I live in a market where leasing is not commonplace for private buyers. I’m therefore a little unfamiliar with the options available to customers outside of what’s on the manufacturer’s pages.

The numbers I’ve reproduced below are all from the websites of the manufacturers mentioned, except for the Audi A6. As I couldn’t find lease offers for the Audi A6 on their website, I used LeaseCompare (3.2l FWD model, 15K miles p.a., 780 credit score, $2,600 downpayment).

The Saab 9-5 lease is based on a Turbo4 Sport Sedan, so it’s not as well equipped as some of the higher end Teutonic competition. It’s still a cracking drive, though, and if you opted for a Hirsch upgrade (when they come online) then it’d be even moreso. I think the price differences noted here are pretty compelling.

VehicleLease termInitial paymentMonthly lease
Saab 9-5 Turbo439$3,558$399
Volvo S80 3.2 FWD36$3,029$399
MB E350 (1)33$3,184$639
Infiniti G3739$2,499$359
BMW 528i36$3,204$579
BMW 335i Xdrive Sedan27$4,154$429
Audi A6 3.2 FWD Premium (2)36$2,600$578

(1) I couldn’t find a Mercedes E Class offer on any model less than the E350 (if in fact they offer a model smaller than the 350 in the US).

(2) The base model A6 seems to be called ‘Premium’. Maybe I should have used a higher downpayment (upping the downpayment to $3500 lowered the monthly cost to $551).

As mentioned, these figures are from the manufacturer’s own websites and I haven’t gone to the trouble of comparing all equipment levels, etc. I’ve chosen the most basic models I could get a lease figure for and threw in the BMW 3-series for the benefit of those who might have doubted the validity of including a 5-series.

The G37 comes up smelling like roses in this comparo, but bear in mind the loss of rear leg room (some four inches) and a significant loss of cargo space in the trunk as well. The G37 is a bit bigger than the 9-3, but it’s more expensive as well (see 9-3 leases, below).

It might just be me, but if these lease offers are correct, then the 9-5 should be seen as competitively priced. If there’s something I’m missing, please let me know in comments.

IF the 9-5 is indeed competitively priced, as it seems, then maybe there’s something else that needs to be fixed – customer trust, dealership experience, marketing, equipment levels, etc.

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The Saab 9-3 is going for $299 a month for the 2011 models and there’s 0% finance available on both 2011 and 2010 Saab 9-3 models.

That is unbelievably good value, if you ask me. If I could get a 9-3 for $299 a month, I’d be all over the sucker.

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Report: Swedish Saab dealers to guarantee Saab 9-5 residuals

June 1, 2010 in News

This is potentially a very interesting and powerful move on the part of Swedish Saab dealers.

The Local has a report today about the commencement of press drives for the new Saab 9-5. That’s stuff that we already knew.

What’s interesting is this quote at the end of the report from Peter Hallberg, the CEO of the Saab Dealer Network. I’m not familiar with this dealer network or Peter Hellberg so I have to assume is the Swedish equivalent of the Saab dealer council in the US (the presence of which I’m a little more familiar with).

Finance and leasing companies have set very low residual values, or how much the cars are estimated to be worth in three years, on Saab vehicles. However, Saab dealers have agreed to provide a guaranteed residual value for the vehicles.

“We guarantee a value on par with our competitors,” said Hallberg. “This means around 50 percent for volume models. We hope that will eliminate the worries of fleet car buyers.”

That’s going to mean big things for business customers. With lease deals tied so closely to 3-year residual values, the presence of a residual guarantee could mean a much better deal for lease customers.

The combination of good reviews (which seem to be coming out already) and good lease deals could mean quite a bit more fleet business for Saab dealers in Sweden.

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The other side of the US leasing story

May 21, 2010 in Saabology

I posted earlier today about concerns with leasing prices in the United States. Some of those lease figures in the post are indeed worrisome for some prospective purchaers, but there’s also some other things to consider.

First, the fact that that story looked only at one model without taking a look at other offers (it was the one that I had brought to my attention).

The following is a clipping of an ad that’s been appearing in some New York newspapers in the last few days. Click to enlarge.

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Those numbers look a little closer to what people expect. The 9-3 2.0T is a pretty well equipped car. It’s the volume seller and that looks more like a volume seller price for this market.

Other things:

The zero-down prices offered by some of the premium Euro marques are tempting to many (which is what they’re supposed to be) and they result in a reasonable market share for them. BUT they also result in high default rates when conditions tighten up and the lessee who aspired to something really nice (but risky) can no longer afford what looked like a reasonable risk at the time.

There is a ‘want’ factor with Saabs for many Saab customers. I’m not suggesting that Saab are trying to cash in on that. I don’t think they would dare, nor even dare think they have that luxury. But personally speaking, if I was choosing between a Saab and something else at $100/mo the difference, I’d buy the Saab. If I couldn’t afford it, I’d hold on for another deal if my circumstances allowed.

Like I said in the first post on this issue, there’s a lot of structures in this new life for Saab that have to settle. Leasing, pricing and the market is examples of these. There’s no need to shout.

Thanks to Hugh for the clipping.

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Concerns about Saab leasing in the US

May 21, 2010 in Uncategorized

This might be the first bad news post of the new Saab age.

Concerns with Saab leasing first popped up on my radar a few weeks ago when one of our regular readers here, Jose N, sent me a scan of a lease ad from a newspaper in Florida.

Saab Lease Florida We don’t do a lot of leasing here in Australia so I’m not totally up to speed on the structure or value, so here are Jose’s thoughts about this in an email to me…..

I wanted to bring your attention towards the 9-3 Convertible lease offer. $599/month plus tax. This is on a $45k sticker vehicle, so its pretty well equipped. The fine print reads 48 months, 12k miles a year, with $4880 total out of pocket at signing.

As sweet as this vehicle is, its NOT competitively priced.

The Collection Audi is offering a A5 convertible for $499/month, 12k/year, 36 months with ZERO down. South Motors BMW is offering a 328 convertible for $459/month, 12k year, 36 months with $3400 out of pocket and free maintenance. Lexus is the least competitive with their IS250 convertible lease, which is offered at $499/month, 12k year, 48 months and $5k down.

Jose’s a potential customer, but he’s not the only one writing to me about this. There are a number of Saab dealers very concerned about leasing as well.

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Saab US leasing deals now appearing

May 14, 2010 in News

I heard some good news from a dealer in the US today, telling me in a very happy tone that he’s finally placed an order for 20 new Saab 9-3s and 10 new Saab 9-5s.
As we’ve seen already, new stock is starting to trickle in, including the Saab 9-3x. Things are finally starting to move forward for Saab and their US dealers.
Automotive News has a good article today, including details of the new leasing deal for the Saab 9-3. This is significant in itself because Saab hasn’t been able to offer leasing as an option for customers for some time now.

Saab can move on the marketing front now that it has begun slowly building up its U.S. pipeline. The 9-3 has been trickling into the United States since late March. Before that, dealers had not had a shipment of Saab vehicles since last June…..
….Saab is offering a 2010 9-3 Sport Sedan 2.0 with automatic transmission for $399 a month with a $3,374 down payment; the term is 48 months. Advertising to promote the lease program will be primarily newspapers, direct mail, digital and social media. Some co-op advertising is planned. The program expires June 1.

There are more details available at the Current Offers section of the SaabUSA website.

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GMAC to provide financing for Saab

March 16, 2010 in News

Here’s the press release that came out while I was sleeping. The importance of this announcement cannot be underestimated.

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GMAC to provide financing for Saab dealers and customers

* GMAC chosen as financial services provider to Saab Automobile
* Preferred source of wholesale and retail financing for dealers and customers

Trollhättan. Following its successful launch as an independent company, Saab Automobile announced today that it has selected GMAC Financial Services as the preferred provider of wholesale and retail financial services for qualified Saab dealers and customers in many different countries around the world.

Jan Åke Jonsson, CEO of Saab Automobile AB said: “Today’s announcement is excellent news for the Saab organization as a whole and also for Saab’s customers. It not only makes available competitive financing, but also provides valuable continuity for the dealer network which already uses GMAC services.”

Bill Muir, GMAC President said: “We are delighted to be able to build on our strong relationships with Saab dealers and customers, and we look forward to working with Saab as it begins a new chapter in its history.”

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Saab had so much going against it in 2009. A perception in the public eye that it was closed, lack of finance for dealers. Lack of production volume. Lack of leasing for customers.

This announcement is a BIG fix for the finance component for dealers and customers.

Great stuff!

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by Swade

Marketing the new Saab

August 21, 2009 in Editorial

I’ve not written a serious article here on SaabsUnited in some time, and I’m going to hesitate to actually call this an article as much as it is an editorial post. It’s just a collection of thoughts that I have about the new Saab, the one that’s a division of the Koenigsegg Group rather than a division of the world’s largest automaker. The Saab that will be more Swedish and less American. The Saab that will be more nimble and less bureaucratic.
First of all, I’m not one to be hopeful or pessimistic simply because an organization changes structure (or ownership). It simply is. The new structure can be great, but it can also be the same or worse than the previous. Only change in actions will create new directions and new capabilities. Koenigsegg Group is saying many of the right things, and that’s a great first step. Now Saab can get on with the actual changes that will build a future for the marque. It’s exciting, but it’s no guarantee.
So, that begs the question: what changes are needed, and what things will make the most impact on sales? I have a few ideas, but I believe that in the current automotive market, one must start by making it very, very attractive to buy a Saab.
That starts with product, naturally. We’ve spilled a great deal of ink on that topic, and there is promise of new vehicles in the pipeline. So, what else impacts new car sales? Financing.
In the luxury car market, financing, particularly leasing, is perhaps the most important marketing asset. Personally, I believe that the lack of attractive leasing terms has been a difference-maker for Saab sales in the United States for some time, perhaps as long as five or six years.

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Saturday Night Quick Snippets – 2nd place edition

August 15, 2009 in Saabology

Hey everyone. I hope you’re having a great weekend.
Today I started the cleanup of the MX-5 ready for sale so that I can get stuck into the new 99Turbo project. The ad should go online tomorrow.
Tonight I went to a trivia night, an annual fundraiser at my old church. Our team came 2nd for the 2nd year in a row. Darn history and local knowledge questions!
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I didn’t know that Autoblog had a UK affiliate. They don’t give them much publicity on the all-conquering US site.
Upon reading this entry, I can see why.
Outsider view – Will Saab go to the wall?
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Nationwide Vehicle Contracts have new pricing out on Saab leasing in the UK, supposedly with the addition of the Saab 9-3x to the list, though I can’t see it there myself.
Considering the lack of Saab leasing options anywhere in the last little while, this is a good and noteworthy thing (I think)
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The Local reports that an employee/dealer buyout is looming as an option for Volvo. It seems the people really don’t want to work for the Chinese.
Geely are still regarded as the favourites to purchase Volvo, but the natives in Sweden are restless.

The engineering trade union at Volvo Cars is reported to be behind the initiative due to provide opposition to the possibility of a Chinese owner, reported business daily Dagens Industri.
Konsortium Jakob AB was listed at the Swedish Companies Registration Office (Bolagsverket) in July. Employees in Sweden and Belgium will have the chance to buy into the company with two monthly salaries. Volvo dealers will also reportedly to be offered the opportunity to buy in. AB Volvo, as well as an unnamed Swedish institutional investor, is also to have expressed interest in joining the consortium.

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And finally, some nice HDR work via Flickr.
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by Swade

Wednesday Night Snippets

August 6, 2009 in News

Amidst all the frustration we’re feeling, there are signs of life on the Koenigsegg-Saab deal.
Dkup Strupe tells me that the K-Segg movers and shakers have been in the US this week, which is significant in that the GM board were meeting for the first time this week since emerging from bankruptcy.
Further to this, Swedish Radio tell us that there will be K-Segg meetings back at home in Sweden later this week:

Saab’s future is determined by the negotiations taking place between General Motors and Koenigsegg Group, discussions are extremely secretive. So far, however, the negotiations as intended, it says Paul Åkerlund, klubbordförande for IF Metall in Saab in Trollhättan.
- Hopefully, we see the results of this in the near future, “says Åkerlund to Radio West.
- My impression is that they have a high work tempo.
Saab information officers, Gunilla Gustavs says that Saab is pleased so far, and she says that discussions are progressing. Mer vill hon inte kommentera. More wishes she did not comment.
According to data from Koenigsegg as Koenigsegg Group will meet for meetings at the end of this week.

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Potential good news for UK Saabers looking for a lease.

ALD Automotive will manage GM’s own lease operations, which include Vauxhall Leasing, Saab Contract Hire and Chevrolet Lease, from the end of the month.
Masterlease had managed the operations for the past eight years but cracks in the agreement between the two companies became apparent when Masterlease stopped writing new Saab business in March.
Despite other lease companies renewing their Saab business at the end of June Masterlease kept its Saab order book closed.
Now General Motors UK (GMUK) has moved the contract over to ALD, which will see the country’s tenth largest lease company manage the entire GM UK leasing operation.

I’m going to do something rare around here and pat GM on the back for this as well.
The ability to lease a vehicle is an important sales carrot for dealers working with business customers and the inclusion of Saab into the lease list will be a major gain for UK dealers.
I know that US dealers are hurting, too, due to a lack of lease availability. Here’s hoping that some of the US banks start to view Saab favourably once again, too.
The other takeaway from this the further evidence that Saab’s systems may be tied into GM’s systems for some time to come. This announcement so close to Saab’s sale indicates such, much like the recent advertising announcement.
That has it’s good and bad sides, but I guess we have to trust that some of those decision makers know what they’re doing.
Thanks Per!
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And here’s a brief note that I found interesting for writers….
The Wall Street Journal will no longer honour embargoes on stories, unless it is a story they get as an exclusive.
This is, of course, not directly related to the car business, but it’s an interesting development that reflects the electronic age that we live in.
Embargoes had their place when print ruled the world. Recent events with the 2010 Saab 9-5 images tend to show that they don’t work in the internet age.
Yet another reason why Saab should consider what I’ve been saying all along – that they should control their own newsflow and relationships with enthusiasts.

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by Swade

Saab lease residuals downgraded in US

February 16, 2009 in Archive

Here’s yet another reason why it’ll be good if GM and the Swedish government can sort out their situation in relation to Saab’s future.
US leasing advisory service, Automotive Lease Guide, are cutting the expected residual rating for the 2009 Saab range. These residual estimates directly effect lease rates and also have an influence on vehicle perception and used car prices.
The 2008 Saab range had an estimated three-year residual of 43.2%.
For 2009, this has been downgraded by seven percentage points to 36.1%
A depressed market. An uncertain future. Now, a further disincentive for people to consider picking up a Saab in the US.
I really hope GM and the Swedes can get the act together soon.
Here’s Keith Crain, editor in chief of Automotive News:

Retail customers are starting to shy away from the endangered brands. If GM doesn’t act immediately, it will not make any difference to those dealers whether GM declares bankruptcy. When customers feel that the future of a brand is uncertain, it doesn’t matter whether the company is insolvent. In many instances since World War II, customers sensed that a brand was near the end, and they abandoned it. If GM has any hope of salvaging those brands, whether for itself or a new owner, it must act and act swiftly.

Too true.
Link: Automotive News (sub)