Saab Canada has started a quite interesting incentive program, so if you want to buy something like this.
You should read this post and hurry up, before they are all gone.
(Yes those are the black panthers, and after seeing them IRL, I still prefer the black Edges)
Owner loyalty
(Owner loyalty is for Saab owners who can show in the form of a registration that they have owned their current Saab for at least 6 months.)
- Saab 9-3 sedan – $2500
- Saab 9-3 Combi – $2500
- Saab 9-3 Convertible – $3500
- Saab 9-5 sedan – $3500
Owner loyalty can be combined with any program.
Rate financing of
- 0% for up to 60 months
- 2.9% for 72 months
on all models.
Or
Cash credits
(Not compatible with finance program)
- Saab 9-3 sedan and Combi – $4500
- Saab 9-3 Convertible – $5500
- Saab 9-5 sedan – $6000
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The loyalty program is for current Saab owners and can be combined with finance or cash rebates, cash rebates can’t be combined with finance though. Big winner would be the cash 9-5 buyer that owns a Saab now because total credits would be $9500 and the 9-3 buyer still would get $7000 if loyalty applied. These are all on 2011 vehicles as Canada never had 2010’s.
That is one good looking car.
It is. And it looks so . . . familiar. 🙂
Mean 🙂
Red J,
We have the same car here in a 2011, no black wheels though. We had one of the first batch that came with no sunroof. I really like those black panthers with the tinted rear windows and white looks so surprisingly nice on the 9-5.
Jason, that would have been the Aero I drove. Loved it!!!!
That’s the one
just a random question, does saab have a cobranded credit card?
just a random answer,
yes, but only in Sweden, afaik.
Is the credit card global and can it be issued outside of Sweden?
Don’t know !!
But you can check it here.
Good deal, hey
Mark O,
I think it’s a great deal, take an automatic 9-3 MSRP of $37,700 and if you’re a Saab owner that cash price now is $30,700 for a 2011 Saab 9-3. I think that’s a great deal for a Saab. Dealers have a good number of vehicles in stock as well.
Thats a good deal. Funny, I bough my first Saab, a 2000 9-3 (also the base version) in Oct 2000 for exactly the same amount. The list list was $35,700 in 2000, but the dealer (GM) offered $5K off for year end clearance. That discount made me choose the Sabb over the Audi A4 which the dealer would not budge on.
So it begins. Saab Canada is finally realizing that they overpriced the cars for the market (base 9-3s are $10,000 over UK prices, taxes in, and 9-5s are even worse). Let’s hope 2012 prices are more realistic from the start so that they don’t have to pile-on the incentives. In other words, the cars should be competitive with Passats, Acuras, etc. Price them right and people will cross-shop. Price them 10K more and then fire-sale them and people won’t even visit the dealership. Saab Canada doesn’t have a web site at this point, so it’s not like anyone but the… Read more »
Bernard, I think the same car (9-3 auto) in the US has an MSRP of about $32000 when you include freight which would make it a difference of $5000 or so to Canadian and when you ad the import fees of 6 or so percent it’s even less. In my opinion, we will not see prices at par to the US because our dollars are not usually so close to par. Is the Passat not half the car it used to be and what Acura would you compare a turbo 4cyl 9-3 to in the Acura line up? Do you… Read more »
Well put Jason. Canadian salaries tend to be higher than US salaries which in part counts for the slightly higher prices.
Bernard, in addition to that point SCNA doesnt even have a fully functioning Canada website OR advertising. Do we expect dealers to just sit back and not give the public incentives to visit their dealership? Are you even sure you like Saabs?
Zippy, It’s not a cult. I don’t have to agree with the sales strategy. My point is that the web “site” is really just one page, and it doesn’t list any prices, so how would anyone know if they are really getting a discount off of list? Saab Canada needs to price their cars competitively without discounts and incentives rather than playing games that will just chase customers out the door. They are not in GM anymore… Here is the deal: in Canada, a TSX starts at 31K, a Passat CC is 33, a B Class is under 30. These… Read more »
That’s a very general statement to make about Canadian salaries tending to be higher in Canada. It’s definitely not the case for my profession, and I can think of several others in the same situation.
Tilley, It is the case with many professions though when comparing US to Canada. Bernard, The March sales numbers clearly show that Canadian customers would rather go elsewhere than play that game. We didn’t have these programs in March, so I don’t think your explanation explains the truth. Some of the posts that keep coming up on here are starting to drive me a little crazy. Yesterday, we got some programs that were needed for the Canadian market. I think regardless of what anyone thinks is the right or wrong way to go about programs or pricing, these programs give… Read more »
Jason, So, what happens next? The incentives will end, and then you guys go back to watching the tumbleweeds drift by, averaging less than one sale per dealer per month? It will be even worse the second time around, because customers will know the incentives are coming back. Some customers will wait for the next blowout sale, but most will just buy from the competition. I agree with you that incentives are better than nothing (which is a close approximation of YTD sales as you know), but the real solution lies in realistic pricing. The current sales model is broken.… Read more »
Didn’t know about the 6% import duty, but as far as the currencies are concerned CAD has been hovering at + or – 5% of USD for over a year, and the loonie has been stronger than the dollar ofr all of 2011. The Fed is printing so much money that it’s hard to imagine the trend reversing, since CAD will be supported by the rising doillar value of its resource exports. Bottom line, Canadian prices ought to come much closer to US prices from where they are now Case in point : I was with my father when he… Read more »
Seb C,
I agree with you in concerns to the dollar, but I think a lot of manufactures are concerned about matching pricing because they don’t see it staying this way even though it has been like this for a long time. Prices will always be cheaper in the US though because their market is so much larger, the US can play the volume game instead of gross per unit. I wish there was an easy answer, I just don’t think there is.
I agree with you that incentives are better than nothing (which is a close approximation of YTD sales as you know) Bit of a low blow there Bernard, am I happy with YTD sales? Of coarse not. What happens next? Who knows? I know that by the time they go away, we will have the 9-5 combi and the 9-4X, so hopefully that will help sales, remember, there are still two new models coming before the end of the year. Some customers will wait for the next blowout sale, but most will just buy from the competition. Is this not… Read more »
Gentleman…..I just traded my 2009 SAAB 9.3 XWD on a 2011 Honda Insight EX (hybrid) yesterday. I really love my SAAB XWD…but it wasn’t getting good gas mileage (21 mpg). I will wait patiently for the 2013 SAAB 9.3 eXWD with the fuel efficient 1.6L auto stop BMW engine (220hp-240hp). The gas mileage on the gasoline/benzine SAAB engine is killing me…..the price of crude oil just keeps going up in the USA…plus the SAAB depreciates rather quickly….I do miss it and love my SAAB 🙁
Have fun in that Honda. 😉
zippy,
Our friend Ken is looking at a Honda too if you look at his comment to me on SCWC website. Although not his choice…..
Well this Ken cares not so much about Hondas or MPG… 🙂
The day I can’t afford to fill up my petrol car, I start walking.
Jeez you guys need turbodiesels out there. 21mpg is just over 25mpg here. Even my old 9-3 TiD can get me over 60mpg on a good run. In Americanese that would be 50 US mpg. Is it to do with emissions that you don’t have them or is it a type approval thing?
GASP!
I understand everyone has their own reasons, but gas would have to hit over $8.00 /gl and stay there before I’d even consider such a move. But then again, my commute is only 12 miles a day.
Good luck!
The gasoline price here in Sweden has now reached 14 SEK/liter, about 8.5 USD/gallon… However, we fill up our 9-5 BioPower with E85 ethanol which costs around 9.20 SEK/liter, approximately 5.5 USD/gallon, so it pays to run on ethanol these days even though the fuel consumption increases with ca 30 %.
Actually the new Griffins have much improved mileage also with the gasoline engines with 220hp. 14,9km/l is not at all bad for a car in that size and this power.
I am a little surprised that we have heard so very litle about this improvement, which, I think, could help the salenumbers quite a lot. I guess it someway drowned in the debate about the Phoenix and latest the the drama in the Swedish press. (???)
Cmhohioman,
sorry but I don’t understand you.
You have bought a 88hp car as a replacement of your 210hp XWD Saab, but expect the next to have around 230hp?
I know you are all Saab fans, but it is interesting to see that Saabs have always to be better to be perceived as competitive.
Well my wife has a 2009 Saab 9-3 XWD, too. That is her in town (city) mpg, too. If you want better gas mileage don’t run the air conditioner all the time and change the tires to low rolling resistance tires. Her highway mileage is 32-34 mpg.
Just a thought.
cmhohioman, The depreciation thing isn’t happening nearly as much anymore as there is a lack of used Saabs out there and believe it or not, in Canada anyways, we have a lot of customers to purchase used Saabs. I hope you got a fair trade value, not sure how you can go from a 9-3 to an Insight though. Gas is a big issue everywhere and believe me, if you think you’ve got it bad, come to Canada for a weekend. I save a lot of money when I go to Blaine and fill up on the way home, you… Read more »
$2.24 a litre here for diesel now (UK) I would happily kill for $1.30 …$168 a tank in my 9-3 🙁
Correction…$153. Not as bad as I thought. I am considering a remortgage in order to fill up next week.
Our 1.30 is for unleaded gas, not diesel, diesel gas prices are about the same though.
It is roughly 2.16 USD in Sweden per liter (given a bad exchange rate — it is probably the same as what you are seeing in the UK).
I typically use 66-70 liters per week. My 9000 claims 8.2 liters per 100 km.
Again….I love SAAB…..I had no mechanical or electrical issues with my SAAB 9.3 XWD…it’s just the gas mileage that totally sucks!! We do not have diesels in the USA…Period!!! The few diesels we do have are the Volkswagen Jetta/Golf…BMW 335d….Mercedes Benz E350 BlueTec….thats it….for Luxury or European Imports…..seriously. No Diesel SAABs. I have to wait for the new 2013 SAAB 9.3…However Gentlemen….news is looking bleak…for financial reasons…SAABs existence….I’m getting scared…
Don’t be scared, you’re only hearing part of a story.
It’s your use of dots that scares me… 🙂
Approval….for diesels….emissions….not sure….Government compliant….It sucks. I figured…if its good enough for Europe….its good enough for the USA.
Personally I cant see how buying a brand new car at, lets say $25000, is saving you a single penny as thats one heckuva lot of gas. 🙂
So much for zippy getting the 9-5 first… Any takers? Ken? 😉
Is it not cheaper to drive less than to trade and purchase and new chunk of depreciation to save money on fuel costs?
I think a 10% reduction in driving distance would be pretty easy to achieve, and that is more than a 10% savings in fuel cost.
I just paid $3.79 / gallon for premium and I think it’s a great value, my 2001 9-5 wagon is saying 20.1 MPG on the SID, and I drive it like I stole it, 100 mph every day. Pretty good for a car I paid $1500 for.
The incentive’s are nice but does not address the core issue here in Canada. Our petro dollar is at parity with the americans(actually $1.03 at the time of this writing). Comparing apples to apples a similarly equipped new 95 south of the border with a little bit of haggling can be had for nearly $20,000 less then its canadian version, this understandably does not bode well for saab of canada. At the recent car show here in Calgary the saab rep advised me that the delay in launching the canadian website was to address the issue in msrp, the incentives… Read more »
“Comparing apples to apples a similarly equipped new 95 south of the border with a little bit of haggling can be had for nearly $20,000 less then its canadian version, this understandably does not bode well for saab of canada.” You must be talking about a 2010 model of which we had none in Canada, I have seen no dealers in the US discounting that heavily in the US on 2011’s At the recent car show here in Calgary the saab rep advised me that the delay in launching the canadian website was to address the issue in msrp, the… Read more »
I think I changed my gravytar.
hmm, not yet, oh well!
Okay, so the pricing prostitution begins. Pricing should have been addressed in the beginning. Everyone has become used to paying 20 – 30% less than the retail pricing, so this has now become the price. The value of a product is what someone is willing to pay. These cars are gathering dust on showroom floors and the reaction is to slash prices, rather than address the bigger issue. This, as a loyal salesperson is like being beaten with a mallet. I love these cars, but it is hard … I’m getting thinner by the day.
Saabseller, I feel your pain, I really do in regards to not selling enough of these beautiful cars, but really “pricing prostitution”? Come on. Is slashing prices or giving great finance rates not addressing the bigger issue? I welcome these programs to help more cars because the more you sell, the more people will know about you and I’m sorry, but programs like these will sell cars. I hope you have a great month of April selling some Saabs, I know at the dealership today we were excited to have programs and I’ve already heard from people who feel the… Read more »
by the way, I’ve never been a big supporter of price slashing, but unfortunately it’s where the industry as a whole has gone. Look at trucks accross Canada, unless you have an $8-10000 discount on a new truck, you might as well wait because you know it’s coming.
I paid $33,800 for my 2009 SAAB 9.3 XWD (every available option) in Dec 2009….when I traded it in on 2011 Honda Insight EX…the Kelly Blue Book value for it (18,100 miles) was $21,450….thats a Hell of a lot of depreciation….the car was payed off….and the price of the Honda Insight EX was about the same price…so no money was involved……Even trade….2009 SAAB 9.3XWD= 2011 Honda Insight EX (hybrid). I love my SAAB…but I like Hondas too……but not as much as SAABs…that’s for sure…..I’ll be back in 2013….SAAB 9.3 eXWD
cmhohioman,
compared to what is a hell of a lot of depreciation? In 2 years time you lost $12,350 or some might say it cost you that to drive it for 2 years. I don’t know of many cars out there that don’t depreciate that much and actually the more expensive the car ie Mercedes, the worse it gets. I’m sorry you needed to get rid of the Saab, but I really think you’d find the same kind of depreciation in any car.
I don’t know….we’ll see…All the frickin talk about SAAB having financial problems…coupled with the bad gas mileage made me bail ship or trade the cars…I lost no money…Hondas hold their values very well….especially hybrids with increasing oil prices…Hopefully with SAAB still around and the new 2013 SAAB 9.3 eXWD (mild-hybrid)…I’ll trade it in….
You’ve just taken another $5000 depreciation hit by getting a new car. Try trading it in today and see how much they’ll offer you. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to charge you $10,000 to trade the Insight against your old Saab that’s on their lot.
The fact is, if you trade every two years, you are going to pay huge amounts in depreciation. It would probably make more sense for you to lease.
Hindsight being 20/20, I think it sounds like what you needed was the FWD setup of the 9-3. That would have saved you quite some fuel as well. Especially when combined with some more frugal driving techniques. You could have had your pie and eat it too.
(I probably should have skipped on the XWD part myself :P)
The dealers usually sell the car for $4,000 more than the trade in value. I guess value depends on peace of mind and whether you have an accident or not.
Just a thought.
Ok, where I am at, the standard was approx. 50% remaining value after 3 years.
I got burned with 2 VWs in Europe where it was more like 60% after 9 months, the other similarly after 14 months, ok, that was dealer buy back as I changed locations. Still, selling/returning a used car after 0-36 months anywhere is probably not the best business deal possible… Unless you were around for the launch of the 9000, that was resold is Sweden the first 6 months for the same and even more than msrp…
Too bad 18 inch rotors are not available in black from factory…
Front tinted windows from factory would be cool as well with remove button, but i think that is very expensive option.. seen on Maybach on some kind of show.
Another thing i am curious – why SAAB does not offer purple windshield which is offered on lots of premium cars nowadays and even on opel insignia..
And the last important option is missed – engine pre heater.
The new SLK has this ‘remove’ feature, in the roof window.
Saab in Canada (note: I did not say Saab Canada as it does not exist) has so many issues right now that discounting the cars a la GM, is not the right thing to do. Take the money they are loosing on the vehicles, put it into some sort of program (advertising or otherwise) to get the buyers into the showrooms. As the President of The Saab Club of Canada, I am a little more aware than the average about Saabs on the road. I also spend a lot of time driving … and I have yet to see a… Read more »
Saab in Canada (note: I did not say Saab Canada as it does not exist) has so many issues right now that discounting the cars a la GM, is not the right thing to do. Take the money they are loosing on the vehicles, put it into some sort of program (advertising or otherwise) to get the buyers into the showrooms. Don’t you think though that us dealers now have something to advertise? Before yesterday, all I could really advertise is a low rate. I agree, something needs to change and I hope we all turn that corner with these… Read more »
It is a good thing to put up such a campagne ; to sell more Saab’s.
Here in Belgium they have now reclame on the big national radio. ( never been before)
And my local dealer is also doing his best to sell more Saab’s.
A shame that they don’t put a diesel in the new 94-X , Belgium is a diesel country.
Spartacus
As has been said many times before, we cannot blame Saab for not having a diesel engine for the 9-4X. It is sad that GM cancelled the 2.9 liter V6 diesel engine but there is not much to do about that now. The 9-4X will still be of utmost importance for Saab in the USA, Brazil, Russia and China for example.
Don’t forget Canada!! 🙂
Sorry! 😉 I am not sure how Saab’s sales numbers have been in Canada before, but with its relatively cold climate and low population density it should be well suited for Saabs. For some peculiar reason diesel doesn’t seem to be big in Canada either, but for Saab it is only positive right now.
JH,
not sure how to find all the old stats, someone probably has them, but I did find that in 2006 Saab sold 2640 (I’m sure this was a high) vehicles in Canada and 1568(think this may have been a low and for anyone wanting to add to this, yes I know this year will be lower) in 2008. I think there is a huge potential for Canada and one of my favorite quotes is “Rome wasn’t built in a day”.
There’s really only VW for diesels in Canada. They’ve got their niche market, namely high mileage drivers who want the lowest possible running costs. It’s a steady market, but not one that Saab could tap into. Price is key here, and Saabs are in a different category. The other German brands also sell some diesel SUVs, but that’s a trickle-down from US CAFE requirements. I don’t think that people who are in the market for a $90,000 status machine care about the mileage. If anything, the reverse is true, and they want to show that they can afford to fill… Read more »
I have ordered a Griffin with all the bells and whistles. Griffin Up !
Congrats Per.
Thumbs up! 🙂 I believe that Saab’s sales numbers will increase a lot with so many news coming this spring/summer! If Mr. Antonov also gets onboard with additional funding, I believe that the future for Saab looks very bright! 🙂
Thanks JH, nice to see someone sharing those beliefs.
Looked onine.
I have a 09 xwd with hirsch carbon dash, pedals, grille, and a maptun stage 1. Love the carwith only 37 thousand but that 9-5 with loaded nav, brembo and 300 _+ hp is very nice with 10 grand off. All I know is my td payment is not 0% or 2.l9%
Should I trade it in? Or is my wife going to beat me with at stick?
Dave
I’d go for but you’ll know for sure one you drive one. 🙂
I would buy this thing so fast if the Aero V6 came with a manual option >.<