Ex. Saab design boss 1998 creation


Sketch mad by Björn Envall given to the SU-Crew after the Oktoberfest in 2010.

Well he has done it again, the legendary design boss at Saab. Björn Envall started his long time with Saab in the 1960’ies working side-by-side with the even more legendary Sixten Sason. Sixten was on the design team for the UR-Saab that was saved with the rest of the Museum yesterday.
Now the Saab world has gained some momentum I felt like the sketch by Björn could accelerate everything even more. With Björn we have living connectivity with the very roots of Saab, I an happy having him as a friend.

So what do You think of the sketch?

Chris Ivory
Member

A bit of a doodle – I am sure forum members could also come up with something!

bpsorrel
Member

Just wondering, (assuming a re-birth) will Castriota continue to be involved and does anyone know what has happened to Padian? (who’s work I admire a lot)

hans h
Member

I see traces of the EV-1 concept car in the illustration. How old is it?

900 classic cab
Guest

+1

StefanH STHLM
Member

Japp! +1

till72
Member

I think it says 25.12.98

Michael Specht
Member

Klar. Same shape and lines as the EV-1. And this kind of wing looks like the Phoenix one, same idea.

900_S
Member

+1

RS
Member

I like the engine specs: 6-700 Nm, 4L/100 km.
Did he know something we don’t 😉

hogge
Member

2 seater cars weigh less than 4 seaters. A short car weighs less than a long one. A low car weighs less than a tall one. Glass fibre/plastic weighs less than steel.
Having AC and all kinds of unnecessary luxuries weighs less than a clean sports car.

It’s as easy as that!

Thylmuc
Member
Very radical concept. It appears as if, provided that RME means rear mount engine, there is really no space for any trunk whatsoever; so in fact a pure driving machine. (the four door down on the right side seems different?!) And here we see some kind of butresses again, though somewhat hidden within the spoiler. All else is really a design sketch, so a bit difficult to judge. I like the idea of rendering the rear in the shape of the tyres. I also like that razor sharp, highly aerodynamic front. Wonder if a grill, even if just as small… Read more »
Örjan
Member

I think RME stands for biodiesel (Rapsmetylester)

Thylmuc
Member

As that would also work in English (rapeseed) and Swedish (raps), not only in German ;-), you may be right. Also considering that was the peak of the biodiesel hype (I actually tried it in my car, but only until the auxilliary heater broke down).

davidsblumberg
Member

Cool! Envall is indeed a legend. We have him and Sason to thank for all of our Saaby design goodness. Why don’t we get Envall do draw a new Sonett? 🙂

Gatelaw
Member

I agree…would be awesome to see a serious Envall-design. For a future Sonett or maybe a small car (9-1?).

jonthaa
Guest

That’s not a sketch, he’s just sharpening his drawing skills. And if this work of art is any indication, then his skills need quite some sharpening 😉

Gatelaw
Member

As a work of doodleing after a few glasses it’s good fun, but as a serious sketch for a future automobile I fail to see the rave. There are however several details in there that holds promise for future development. Personally though I believe more in methanol for a future fuel over Rapsmetylester (RME). But I am a firm believer in compressed air as a range extender in future hybrid vehicles.

turbokalle
Member

No disrespect, but you must be kidding!

hogge
Member
SpinM
Member

Reminds me of Koenigsegg models – wouldn’t mind if this was a base for a new Sonett: small, strong stance but aerodynamic. Instead of V8 it could use a smaller turbo 4. I’m not sure however how you could fit an engine up front into this – looks to me like the engine here should be mounted in the middle or rear. Don’t know how this would go with Saab car build philosophy.

Toby K
Member
I’m more interested in the 9-3 hatch concept in the bottom right rather than a lotus Exige style machine. People just won’t buy that stuff from Saab straight off the bat, concentrate on your bread and butter first. the 9-3 has already been done properly 10 years ago-and that’s what I’m seeing here-frankly its the most appealing part of this sketch given the current circumstances. I’m sure he is a genius I can se that in the 99 and 900. But yet more is required to Save Saab this time-it has to be a world icon single model moonshot of… Read more »
exsaab
Member

That is design sketch that is about 10 years old. If you go along to your local Saab dealer that the latest style showroom introduced 10 years ago as ‘Unlimited’, you will see that image on their showroom window!

robban
Member

EV-1 meets Renault Avantime, no thanks. 😛

Steve C.
Member

What an opportune post to highlight more of Bjorn’s work. Note the backgroud print behind me in my avatar to the left. That was one of 300 prints of a color sketch made by Bjorn as a souvenier for attendees at the 1995 US Saab Owners Convention held in the Atlanta, Georgia area. Saab Cars USA was headquartered in nearby Norcross.

While it is probably hard to see, the print contained renderings of a Saab convertible and a sportier 9000. Not to mention Saab seats!

OliverH
Member
I like the EV1style picture in the lower right corner. RME = Rapsmethylester (Bio Diesel)? 220 bar is peak pressure of the burn cycle inside the engine? Normal value if really a diesel but likely an engine burning high octane fuel like Ethanol or LPG/ CNG. 7000/8000 should be engine revs, so likely an Otto Engine. V8 with 2500 ccm? Will benefit in small pistons, better control of ignition, less advance ignition, because of spark to burn duration. But not more than 3 or 4 cylinders (friction loss) should be used today. 600-700 Nm is a high goal with 220… Read more »
rune
Member

VARV = RPM I guess.

My own personal bias leads me to prefer the BioPower V6 they talked about in conjunction with the AeroX.

OliverH
Member

It’s mentioned above: RME may stand for rear mounted engine.
So it looks like a charged V8 engine with alternative fuel or BioPower as we know it today.

Örjan
Member

1 swedish “mil” is 10km so 0,4l/mil = 4l/100km. And yes, varv, or mor precisely “varv per minut”, is RPM.

hilmar
Member

Nothing for me.

M.A.
Member

I like the hatchback in the bottom right.

Dejjo
Member

I was thinking about what kind of interiors SAAB should have in the future (if there is one). I saw this pic.. of a 3008 and I think that something like this would be great in a SAAB.

http://throughmyeyestoday.blogg.se/images/2010/peugeot-3008-2_123980373.jpg

OliverH
Member

It must be very funny to play around with all this knobs and buttons.
No sir.

Dejjo
Member

hahahah, I think its better then the new 9-5 it’s an outbreak of buttons in that car. I hate to say it but the 3008 has a nicer interior design…

Angelo V.
Member

I want to pre-order the little one on the bottom right.

Peter Gilbert
Member

Has Björn Envall been working for SAAB? I have not heard about him since the SAAB Convention in Columbus, Ohio in the ’80s. I spoke to him and received an autographed poster and both he and Erik autograph a plaque that I received.

Remember it’s only a sketch, this is how great design are conceived at the beginning.

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