I Believe in Saab

Hi! My name is Anne, and I am a Saaboholic (meaning addicted to Saab). You will find me on Facebook constantly sharing news updates and giving a good Rah! Rah! to keep people positive about Saab.

Why do I do this? I love Saab. I simply love it. I have fallen in love with the aerodynamic body design, the grinning grille assembly, and the quirkiness of the car once you get in the driver’s seat. Quirks, you have to love them! I find myself patting the dash at times, either words of encouragement, endearment, or straight out, “Settle down, kiddo!”. I’m no stranger to hugging my car either, I’ll openly admit that. But its all in the game of owning a Saab. They’re not perfect machines, but then again, there is no such thing. They will frustrate you, irritate you, puzzle you, but then at the end of the day when you find yourself looking down upon it, you remind yourself how good it feels to turn the ignition on and take off!

And I think Saab has a great future ahead of them. I feel it. Saab has a lot of great people behind the company, and I know with the right investor, they can be restarted. Its going to take a lot of time and money, yes. But when you consider their current and future line up, if the cards are played right, the future can be prosperous. I want to see Saab get into the right hands, of someone who both has a lot of automotive business knowledge, and financing to be able to work through the tough times. This can happen. And I believe us fans can help steer Saab into those hands. They are watching us, and the more we encourage and show what kind of people we are, the more people will listen and want. Sure, there have been a lot of negative reports. But we need not focus on that, negativity never solved any problems.

I believe we have to accept the mistakes that have been made; and the could of, would have, should haves, and move on. We need to start focusing what is in front of us, and what the future holds. That is very exciting, don’t you think? I do! We need Saab around. We need their innovation, safety and reliability. We need a reasonably-priced car that does it all, without having to chop bits of random cars together to make something that’s both comfortable, looks great, and performs well. There are things that Saab does that other automakers cannot do. How many times have you heard someone carrying a refrigerator in their Camry? But I’ve heard it done with a Saab hatchback!

Thank you very much for the warm welcome into the Saabs United family, this is truly an honour and a dream come true for me. I had no idea where this love could take me, and now I am starting to see it. I’m glad I am able to lend support in these troubled times. Go Saab, GO!

90 thoughts on “I Believe in Saab”

  1. Welcome !
    Just two little things πŸ˜‰
    1 – “They’re not perfect machines, but then again, there is no such thing.” I absolutely agree. I’ve been noticing that small things and issues are part of every great car company.
    2 – I’ll call it the “Hatchback syndrome”. Don’t get me wrong, I perfectly understand all the hatchback excitement thing, and the cars were beautiful back then. But really, who needs to carry a refrigerator nowadays ? Personally speaking, I’m always ready to sacrifice a little bit of practicality for more elegant design. I’m very glad the way the last SAABs were designed.
    Welcome once again ! best wishes.

    • I went ‘back’ (actually it’s a progression, but that’s another story…) to a 5-door Saab 9000 hatch and the cargo-carrying capacity is amazing, while still retaining quite elegant, sporty looks and not looking like a ‘stationwagon’ .
      Getting some furniture at the local Ikea no longer causes transportation problems, so no more 4-door sedan-Saabs for me..
      but to each his own ofcourse πŸ˜‰

      • And frankly, Saab does a great job of styling on their wagons too. I like the utility of a hatch, though I have to admit, the GM era 9-5 Sedan was a beautiful car—-nicest looking sedan anywhere near its price point. I think Saab, if there is a future—-should offer an entry level hatch and continue to sell higher end wagons and sedans.

    • #2….”who needs to carry a refrigerator nowadays”….I DO, Dave! While I appreciate the sedans, I’ve always considered them the less useful variant and was (along with many of my customers) dismayed when the ’03 9-3s debuted as sedans, only! I know several folks who are desperately hanging on to their ’02’s until another hatch appears! Elegance AND practicality are the soul of Saab!

      • Well, I must say I’m amazed by these replies, I really am guys. I never thought that this would be so important for so many people, sorry. As for me, I don’t like my cars to be workhorses…that’s just me. Pickups and commercial vehicles are made for that.

        • as an owner of 3 SAAB sedans, I agree, they are still wonderful cars… but I agree with the others: a hatch is super useful and a defining SAAB feature! The *absence* of a hatch in the lineup for a decade is just wrong (especially where the Opel ng9-5 cousin got one!), though the sportcombis are great (especially for the larger car), the back end of the late model 9000 was pure genius… extremely elegantly executed… other than that, 9-5 wagon, 9-3 hatch made (and still makes) a lot of sense…

          As sedans go, Saab sedans are quite practical: One of our classic 900 sedans has hauled more building supplies than most pickups… hauls an entire drumkit, including rack + a couple keyboards also… but there have been a few times larger items wouldn’t fit through the mouth (or just barely fit – a dresser, and a large AC unit are 2 I can remember fighting with!)…

          James…

        • Yes, pickups and commercial vehicles are also made for hauling things, but then when I need one, I either need to own one, rent one, or pay someone else to haul something for me. I love my 9-3 hatchback because most of the time it looks and drives like a sport sedan, but when I need to bring home or transport some larger item or a lot of stuff, I can do it with my same vehicle for no extra cost. Call me cheap. I prefer to call it practical. πŸ™‚ I do, though, understand why some people prefer a normal sedan.

          • +1
            We’ve bought older Saabs because no hatchbacks were available with the NG 9-3 or OG 9-5.
            I wonder how many decided not to pick up a new Saab in the last decade because of the fact?

            • I’m with you on that. The hatch is a defining feature of Saab – it’s the combination of practicality with coupe styling that is sorely lacking in models like the og9-5 and the 9000, IMO. I’d argue that the best looking Saab’s are the hatchback models.

              • Excuse me? Perhaps you only know the 9000 CD which is a sedan but the 9000 CS IS a hatchback, and a very spacious one, too, with actually more cubic feet of loading space than the 9-5 station wagon.

                As to styling, tastes differ. To me, my 9000 is the perfect combination of sporty looks, comfort, luxury and high performance while offering all the advantages of a 5-door hatch. For many years, the 9000 was one of only two big hatchbacks on the market. The other was the Renault Safrane. Not a bad car I guess but, well…

                Ivo

            • Many many former Saab owners here have switched to Subaru since the 9-3ss was released… why? hatchbacks + snow capability.

              To me, there is a big difference in how Subarus + Saabs drive. I love driving Saabs, whereas the Subarus I’ve driven (admittedly, not the impreza/wrx/sti yet) have been very underwhelming… but they are practical, are available with manual transmissions, etc, and that is good enough for many to make the switch (vs a 9-3 sedan or more expensive 9-5)…

              GM made a conscious decision with the 9-3ss to drop the Saab faithful + go after 3 series and A4 customers + while it worked to some extent, it diluted the brand appeal + some have moved on. The 2006 release of the 9-3sc did at least bring back the hauling capability, but not with the same “shape” of a 99, 900, or og9-3 + quite similar in size to the og9-5sc… Don’t get me wrong, the 9-3ss/sc is a great car, but I do lament the loss of the hatch + the leaked image of the potential future 9-3 has me very excited!

              James…

              • When I nee to replace my 2000 9-3 hatchback, my plan had been to get a new 9-3 Sportcombi as the next best alternative, but when I heard about the new 9-3 replacement coming again in a hatchback…..THAT is why Saab must survive so that car can live!

      • I too have to carry a lot of stuff, I’m a drummer so I have a drum kit to carry about. I now have a 93X, my previous Saab was a 95 estate. They are just the most versatile vehicles in my view!

      • I totally agree with you duckhead99, and why is it now that BMW and AUDI have hatchbacks or sportbacks, or whatever they call them these days. I love my SAAB hatchback and will always own one!

        • I remember pulling up next to a BMW at a stop light in my ’85 SPG with 2 complete c900 drivetrains (engine and trans.) in the back and hauling a car trailer with ANOTHER SPG on it. The BMW guy looked @ me with astonishment and I just said “What?….Can’t YOUR european sport sedan do this?”. That SPG had the rear seat bottom removed and the seat back was always down. I called it the “SPT” for “Swedish pickup truck”! Had to give it up to rust @ 300K miles!

    • I’m actually surprised how handy even my 9-5 sedan is! I sell books for a living, and so far I’ve been able to fit 35 well-packed boxes of books into my sedan, without sacrificing power, and no saggy suspension either! Very few automakers design their cars for things other than basic transportation, but Saab has thought outside the box on this one. They’ve made it possible for you to fit a whole host of things into your car, thus making it unnecessary for an average people to have an SUV/pickup.

    • Never thought this post could bring so much discussion πŸ™‚ wasn’t there a poll some time ago where we could choose the most suitable model for us ? I got curious now..
      But hey, do you remember when the 2003 onward 9-3 was launched what they said about it ? That the sales of the 9-5 as a sedan increased a lot with that and they were hoping the 9-3 could also follow its steps, and when I saw it, I knew I’d have to have one πŸ™‚

      • Here’s my hypothesis:
        When the 9-5 was introduced, people happily bought it, since it was a new, modern model. Some were fine with the sedan, others only found out after buying that the hatch might have been more important to them than they had assumed (a neighbour of my parents once told me that his 9-5 was a “completely different car” than his previous 9000. Right in the next sentence, he however stated the the hatch had really been a practical thing). In addition, more new buyers (especially in the US) bought the 9-5 because it was now a “standard” (i.e. mainstream, less provoking) body style.

        When the 9-3 II was released, word had already spred among the traditional Saab buyers that a sedan really isn’t as practical. This might explain why less were sold than anticipated. It might also be that for the typical buyer of a 9-3, image is less important than for the 9-5 buyers.

        I believe that the switch in body style resulted in a significant change-over of Saab’s customer base.

        Ah, and wagons are not as stylish, and have worse aerodynamics.

          • It’s true. I read somewhere that 2007 was the peak, someone can correct me, but you’re basically right: the 9-3ss sold very well.

            The thing is Thylmuc is also right on here. GM blatantly went after 3 series + A4 buyers with the 9-3ss + to some extent it worked. It did increase sales and bring new customers into the brand, though probably not as much as GM hoped. *but* it also alienated the faithful hatch fan-base…

            I know someone who moved from a 9000 hatch to 9-5 sedan + had the exact same comments: “9-5 is very nice, but I really miss the hatchback”… I probably thought (in the past) the huge 9000 hatch was strange, and I generally prefer things about the 9-5 (aesthetically, etc)… but if they had made a 9-5 hatch, I’d probably own one!

            One of the problems now is that some of that faithful Saab fan-base moved on to other brands that offered hatchbacks (like Subaru)… some (like me) have stayed with Saab even though the newer models seem a little “less saaby”, they’re still great… But the new buyers of 9-3ss coming from BMW or Audi or whatnot, are more likely to return to other sedan producing brands (especially with the current uncertainty) – harder to differentiate and build loyalty with a sedan. Many who bought the 9-3ss vs A4 or 3 series did so in part because of lower cost. Many of those same buyers are looking at (of all things!) Hyundai and Kia as they move up market with sedans with 2.0T’s, leather, heated seats etc… on paper to them, they are similar cars to Saabs… some amount of sporty luxury, lower priced than the German “equivalents”…

            Imho, GM’s move was short-sighted (as have many of their moves) and it is hurting Saab today. A new 9-3 hatch would do a lot to correct that!

            (Don’t get me wrong, the 9-3ss is a great car. I’m just saying there should have been a proper hatch to keep the “old faithful” happy!)

            James…

            • To me, it is not about keeping the old faithful happy. IMO, that is flawed reasoning and not something a forward looking product should be designed around.

              A good Saab should make sense. I am looking for versatility (good winter qualities + decent IKEA load capability) as well as sportiness (safe driving on the autobahn going 220kph+ or rallying on gravel roads in the forrest).

              The hatchback seems like an obvious solution. The combi just feels wrong to me and a sedan simply won’t cut it.

              Apparently market research was done in the 90s, and that apparently showed that Saab needed to get out of the hatchback-making business. I have met several people who much prefer combis, and Saab were probably the first company to race a combi in Monte Carlo, so I dare not rule out anything at this point. πŸ™‚

          • Had Saab/GM offered a hatchback and an upgraded interior with the face-lifted NG 9-3 sales would have gone through the roof.
            We bought a 9-3 SS in 2003 but only after my wife stated that she wouldn’t drive anything else, period. Easy decisions after that.
            I wasn’t really too happy with the though of putting the dog(s) on the backseat since the ‘inexpensive’ 99 GL. Knowing that we would need an other car to ‘haul stuff’ didn’t make me jump up and down of joy either.

    • Well, I can get four musicians, two amps, two guitars, leads, mics and pedals, other sundries, and a drum kit (kick drum, snare and stand, hanging tom, floor tom, hi-hat, two cymbals and stands) into a 9-3 sportsaloon and still have room left over for an Ikea flatpack.*

      * Okay, the last bit was a lie. An exceedingly keen groupie might fit though.

      • Hmm..I’ve heard of things like that. Probably depends on your preferences in music.
        I can only fit my guitargear in the back with the rear seats down, and will have to keep my guitars in the passenger seat side in my OG9-3 πŸ˜‰
        The rest of the band will have to walk. No groupies, Pity..

    • I Do believe that a Saab hatch is the ultimate musician ride. I love it when I load out of a gig carrying my bass bins out to my C900, step up on the rear bumper and walk right into the back of the car……Folks leaving the bar do a double take and often ask “What kind of car IS that?”

  2. Welcome Anne!
    Transporting refrigerators? Last year we transported about 4 since a few within the family needed replacement. I still remember the sales guy one store: “This one is never going to fit” – “It will – no problem – we drive a Saab 9000 hatch”. And it did. Our Saab 9000 is a great and save ride and a workhorse if needed.

    • Ha! Ha! Our dishwasher is broken as it happens. We do have a 900 sedan with trailer hook and a trailer. Obvious choice for the task perhaps? But, I think I will use our 900 combi coupe and no trailer just for the heck of it.

  3. Nice and positive writing Anne! Thanks a lot for that – and welcome! πŸ™‚
    I fully agree that Saab is needed – also for its philosophy, integrity and way of thinking…
    I really hope a good solution will be found soon …

    • Those Scandinavians who came to North America made a long trecherous trip; across the ocean, thru dense forests, crossing rivers, foraging for food as they went. In general going through all sorts of hardship, just to settle in Minnestoa, a place nearly as cold and dark as the one they left behind.

      • There’s a couple of great movies from the early 70s that really illustrate how hard it was to come and how hard it was once the got here. Both are directed by Jan Troell and star Liv Ullman and Max Von Sydow. The Emigrants and The New Land.

  4. 4 out of the 6 Saabs I have owned have been convertibles, they did make one of the best 4 person convertibles in the world. The other 2 are sedans. The hatchback, or lack of, was never an issue for me to be honest but I’d have liked to have seen a coupe version of the latest 9-3 and even 9-5….. Anyway, though I think there could be a place in the lineup for a stylish hatch I don’t I don’t think that feature by itself, even though practical, defines what a Saab is anymore than being a 2 stroke would have defined Saab. Time and tastes march on, companies have to adapt. It’s a careful balance to not lose your identity in that process but I can say the later Saabs I have driven are some of the best looking, performing and reliable Saabs ever. If anyone missed out on owning one of the latest Saabs because the only Saab they would buy is a hatchback then they really did miss out.

    • Nice words about SAAB!

      It was written by a female, so I need to tell something that happened over 10 years ago.
      I had met my current wife, we had many discussions. At some point of time, it was about the car I drive. I told is SAAB ( 9000 2.3i A, CD 1990, with ACC & cruise, sedan). The answer was some time silent, OK. She saw the SAAB, drove it. We got married. She drivers every day our SAAB (9-5 Aero A Sedan 2008). She would like to have 9-4X. Unfortunately we are nowadays “Saabholics”. It is not the bad issue to have the safe and warm car here in Finland.

      –Jatri,

      P.S. I drive our 9-5 2.3t A Arc Wagon 2003
      P.P.S. What is after SAAB now, SAAB OF COURSE !!!

  5. I also believe in Saab.

    I just hope that I will be a fan of a living Saab, not a fan of a car like the Delorean, Bricklin, or Rover.

  6. This is SAAB, we all care about our cars,and we are one community. Welcome Anne !! I am a believer as well !!

    Greetings from stormy Belgium

  7. Welcome, Anne! I agree: the world needs the SAAB brand now more than ever.

    SAAB is people who are dedicated to doing things the right way. That’s why driving a SAAB has always been more to me than just driving a cool car – it was also about a commitment to a certain ethic.

    That value is more important now than ever. That’s why we must continue to fight to save SAAB.

    I’m also among those who have done an unbelievable amount of hauling the back of my Saabs. And where am I going camping with my son this weekend? In the back of my ’88 SPG : )

  8. a couple of comments. We’ve been lucky enough to buy new Saabs every 3 or 4 years since 1982. Obviously, we’ve always loved them, but Annie is right about the earlier ones having problems of one sort or another. Interestedly, as they’ve gotten more GM, they’ve also become much more reliable. We’ve had essentially zero problems with our 9-5s and now a couple of recent 9-3 combis. As far as carrying stuff, we have a country house on Martha’s Vineyard. It always seem like we’re going there with a full load whether it be a piece of furniture or a car full of Xmas presents. I am somewhat dissapointed in the space within the 9-3SC after having a series of 9-5SCs. I’m praying for Saab’s survival for the people in THN and to be able to replace my two year old (GM) 9-3SC with a 9-5SC.

    • Totally agree that the GM era cars while not as exciting as earlier cars were much better executed. My experience is based on ownership of Saabs since 1980. That said, still love my 1980 900 5 door Turbo!

      • My GM era (2004) 9-5 ARC Wagon has been very reliable. We bought it based on the advice of a friend of my late wife—-who had a Saab and a Volvo and told us the Saab was much more reliable (Her’s was also a GM era Saab.). No doubt the engineering and reliability of the GM Saabs was/is solid. I think they cheaped out on some of the interior materials compared to the earlier Saabs. I remember the 80s era Saabs having tremendous quality inside—-and the GM era ones going with cheaper plastics and leathers—-but all in all, still great products. I don’t think there is a GM product from 2004 better than my Saab—-and that includes Cadillacs.

        • That’s a great point you made. There are really no 2004 GM products that aren’t crappers besides Saabs. What would you buy in a sedan that is GM from 2005 down? Saabs only one worth looking at.

    • Cars have generally gotten more reliable, not only Saabs. I wouldn’t necessarily attribute the increase in quality to GM, but to technical progress.

      • I agree. The parts that hold up better are made by suppliers other than GM anyway (bearings, gaskets etc. etc.). As mentioned before what I’d give GM credit is the factory tooling and the process of building the NG Saabs.
        That was one of the reasons I was very much looking forward to the NG 9-5 SC.

  9. Welcome Anne.

    You’re not the only one I find myself patting the dash at times, but will have to talk to Swade about I’m no stranger to hugging my car either. πŸ˜‰

  10. Thanks Anne. Passion is what fuels life; SAAB will live on, It has “9” lives! SAAB is special and it won’t be exhausted by GM or by anything/anyone else.
    John in NY

  11. The last Saab I had that would haul a refrigerator was an 89 900. If I could get it started with only 40,000 on it.

    Besides, if you put a fridge on it’s side it usually belches the coolant out and you might ruin it. Don’t do that.

  12. Looking forward to reading what’s on your mind. Great to have a woman writer on the team.
    I love your maiden article. Sums things up pretty well!

  13. Not all at once , I have had 3 -5.9 limted high powered jeeps , 2 vw Vanagon campers , 5 Mercedes , 2 Jaguars , 15 Audi’s. Then 1 day A lighting blue Saab Viggen came into my hands and oh man this was it. I drove this Viggen all around South and north Carolina for 4 months. Since that Viggen Ive had 2 more and now A 1995 Saab 9000 Aero the car has been modified for my driving pleasure. I will be driving this Saab From Mass to Captiva Florida in just a few hours. Driving a Saab is more than just driving its living.

  14. A fitting debut Anne πŸ™‚

    You have done so much for the Saab Community that it is great to finally have you aboard. And yes, I echo your sentiments …

  15. Are we going to have to start a new group called SA? (SAABaholics Anonymus) haha
    I will happily be a lifetime member.
    SAAB Up!
    Thanks, Anne, for all your positivity and congrats on joining the team at SU!

    Julie

  16. GM News: They are moving Chevy Volt production to: (Drum Roll Please)…………….China.
    Isn’t that hilarious? American taxpayers bailed out GM under the pretense of “saving American jobs” and the Volt was the poster child for ingenuity and rebirth—-and they now plan to produce in China. Meanwhile, they squash Saab—-non-threatening, tiny Saab and car upstart Youngman. Isn’t that wild? GM, focused like a laser on good public relations. Jerks. Moochers. Morons.

    • Seriously? I think the Volt is going to be a major problem for GM. I think this is just the beginning of new problems which will bring GM back down.

      • Troy: That’s not even the half of it. They’ve recalled all of the Volts they sold to fix a problem that could result in fires. I think they have to reinforce the compartment that surrounds the batteries. The funniest part of the story was that they said “Chevrolet had to recall all 8000 Volts sold…” 8000? After the hundreds of millions of dollars buried in development and promotion, with a huge push from the U.S. government—-they’ve only sold 8000 units? Could that even be right or did I hear it wrong?

        • Your right, 8000 is a joke. That amount of sales probably wouldn’t even pay the advertising budget for the Volt in papers, TV, online ads, and magazines.

          • I just went on GM Facebook and blasted them and again identified myself as a Saab fan. We need to get back on there and flood them again. Around Christmas, there were far more Saab posts on GM’s pages than GM posts. They need to keep hearing from us.

            • And I will add this again from an earlier post I made on Facebook. Call them often before 5PM Eastern Standard Time!

              I posted this on Saab Cars’s Facebook page, but thought it would be good to pass this on to all of you as well. It may also be nice if we could encourage them to pick up our warranties on 2010-2011 SWAN/Spyker Saabs in North America. —–Saab owners, dealers, former employees, enthusiasts: Contact GM and let them know about your displeasure with their handling of the Saab situation. You will reach a REAL live person. Also, you can opt-out of receiving any GM promotional literature via mail, toll-free 866-944-4004. The more who call, the better! Happy New Year!

        • It’s an image project. Actually, electric cars are far from being a replacement for conventional cumbustion engine cars. There are no appropriate batteries – invented yet.

          The Volt’s problems are again correlated with the batteries.

            • The hybrid Volvo V60 is said to enter the Swedish market at 560000 SEK. Their base model will thus cost 100000+ SEK more than my 2011 9-5 Aero! I suspect my 9-5 has a lot more luxuries in it, and I can drive a heckuva long distance for 100K SEK!

              The Prius, being a smaller car, is hopefully a lot cheaper..? I am curious: Is there a hybrid that makes any sense in the market place?

              The V60, as presented in AutoMotorSport, doesn’t mention any torque vectoring or fancy AWD techniques at all. The information presented on the Phoenix 9-3 made certain to mention this very often. Hopefully Volvo packed some technology into their V60, because if it is based on the V50 it will need all the help it can get on the road!

              • The Prius is a practical car. I have one that is my daily driver—-not owned by me, but a company car assigned to me. I can use the high occupancy vehicle lanes even when I’m alone because my state allows that (since the car pollutes less and uses less gas). The Prius has comfortable room for four (not five—-I wish manufacturers would stop squeezing three seatbelts in the back of cars that are really sized for two people back there. When they do that, child seats and booster seats are far more difficult to buckle in because the seating spaces are too narrow.). It has decent cargo space. It runs on the battery or on gas and the car makes that decision based on how you’re driving. My car is a 2008 and it cost about $26,500 back then, which is a lot of money. You could get a non-hybrid medium sized four door hatch with more features for thousands less. For real world driving, the Prius is fine. It gets very high mileage in the city and average mileage on the highway (where the high speed kicks in the gas engine). It has a very small fuel tank, so you end up stopping for gas more often on highway trips. For some commuters, an electric car like the Nissan Leaf could make sense. If you only drive a few miles to and from work—-and don’t have a need to deviate much from that—-you could basically eliminate buying gas, which is nice. But honestly—–you’re still using electric. And at least in the U.S., electric is often generated by coal fired plants, not nuclear—-so in affect, you’re still polluting—-just not at the site where your car is being driven! For me, the internal combustion engine is still king. I know others will disagree with me, but I don’t think Al Gore’s sky is falling scenario is convinicing enough for me to give up my gasoline engine cars. I also believe the world has a huge amount of oil reserves—–many right here in the U.S., that are not tapped. That isn’t an excuse to be wasteful—–but it’s a reason, for me at least, to want to slow down any move away from the standard fare gas engines that I love.

              • I’m not 100% sure about that, but my bets are that the V60 is also based on Fords C platform, you know Focus, C-MAX, Kuga, Volvo C30,C70, S40, V50.

                And No, the AWD from Volvo has no torque vectoring capabilities, and has a big Diesel in the engine bay, which will give you only avg. mileage on the highway (beyond 50kph and 50 km).

                And, and, and …..

                Being the worlds first is not a good idea πŸ˜‰

  17. Nice one Anna, and welcome. Saaboholic, yes, that’s me too, I have loved SAABs for over 20 years, owned 7 and currently own 2 – no matter what happens, i’ll still keep buying them until there are literaly no more to buy (I’ll panic about no warrenty when I need it)

    I’ll also continue to spread the SAAB love : http://elevencreative.wordpress.com/

  18. Anne, welcome here at SU and most of all welcome to Sweden (have You been here??) whenever You feel like curing Your Saab issues.

  19. While only on my third Saab now (2003 9-5 aero)..they are the last 3 cars I’ve brought. If
    I had to buy another brand I have no idea what I would buy.. nothing has more fans/enthusiast/nuts that I know of.

    The 2011 Saab Convention; a lot of enthusiastic Saab people.
    The 2005 Carsile Import and Kit car show; Saab had the most cars there compared to Volvo, Fiat, MG, even VW.

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