I Believe in Saab

Hi! My name is Anne, and I am a Saaboholic (meaning addicted to Saab). You will find me on Facebook constantly sharing news updates and giving a good Rah! Rah! to keep people positive about Saab.

Why do I do this? I love Saab. I simply love it. I have fallen in love with the aerodynamic body design, the grinning grille assembly, and the quirkiness of the car once you get in the driver’s seat. Quirks, you have to love them! I find myself patting the dash at times, either words of encouragement, endearment, or straight out, “Settle down, kiddo!”. I’m no stranger to hugging my car either, I’ll openly admit that. But its all in the game of owning a Saab. They’re not perfect machines, but then again, there is no such thing. They will frustrate you, irritate you, puzzle you, but then at the end of the day when you find yourself looking down upon it, you remind yourself how good it feels to turn the ignition on and take off!

And I think Saab has a great future ahead of them. I feel it. Saab has a lot of great people behind the company, and I know with the right investor, they can be restarted. Its going to take a lot of time and money, yes. But when you consider their current and future line up, if the cards are played right, the future can be prosperous. I want to see Saab get into the right hands, of someone who both has a lot of automotive business knowledge, and financing to be able to work through the tough times. This can happen. And I believe us fans can help steer Saab into those hands. They are watching us, and the more we encourage and show what kind of people we are, the more people will listen and want. Sure, there have been a lot of negative reports. But we need not focus on that, negativity never solved any problems.

I believe we have to accept the mistakes that have been made; and the could of, would have, should haves, and move on. We need to start focusing what is in front of us, and what the future holds. That is very exciting, don’t you think? I do! We need Saab around. We need their innovation, safety and reliability. We need a reasonably-priced car that does it all, without having to chop bits of random cars together to make something that’s both comfortable, looks great, and performs well. There are things that Saab does that other automakers cannot do. How many times have you heard someone carrying a refrigerator in their Camry? But I’ve heard it done with a Saab hatchback!

Thank you very much for the warm welcome into the Saabs United family, this is truly an honour and a dream come true for me. I had no idea where this love could take me, and now I am starting to see it. I’m glad I am able to lend support in these troubled times. Go Saab, GO!

davidsblumberg
Member

Welcome Anne, great to see more enthusiasts joining forces! I feel the same thing, it’s not as bad as it looks. Saab will return!

M.A.
Member

Welcome Anne!!! I’m also a beliver. 🙂

M.A.
Member

Sorry, I meant “believer”.

Karl Ask
Member

Welcome and GRIFFIN UP !!!

Eagle63
Member

Looking forward to reading your articles here on SU..
Again, Welcome !

Z!
Member

welcome Anne! SAAB is alive and always will be! greetingZ! 🙂

900 classic cab
Guest
Welcome ! Just two little things 😉 1 – “They’re not perfect machines, but then again, there is no such thing.” I absolutely agree. I’ve been noticing that small things and issues are part of every great car company. 2 – I’ll call it the “Hatchback syndrome”. Don’t get me wrong, I perfectly understand all the hatchback excitement thing, and the cars were beautiful back then. But really, who needs to carry a refrigerator nowadays ? Personally speaking, I’m always ready to sacrifice a little bit of practicality for more elegant design. I’m very glad the way the last SAABs… Read more »
DreamChaser
Member

I went ‘back’ (actually it’s a progression, but that’s another story…) to a 5-door Saab 9000 hatch and the cargo-carrying capacity is amazing, while still retaining quite elegant, sporty looks and not looking like a ‘stationwagon’ .
Getting some furniture at the local Ikea no longer causes transportation problems, so no more 4-door sedan-Saabs for me..
but to each his own ofcourse 😉

900 classic cab
Guest

I’m glad there’s still a SAAB out there for everybody 😉

Angelo V.
Member

And frankly, Saab does a great job of styling on their wagons too. I like the utility of a hatch, though I have to admit, the GM era 9-5 Sedan was a beautiful car—-nicest looking sedan anywhere near its price point. I think Saab, if there is a future—-should offer an entry level hatch and continue to sell higher end wagons and sedans.

duckhead99
Member

#2….”who needs to carry a refrigerator nowadays”….I DO, Dave! While I appreciate the sedans, I’ve always considered them the less useful variant and was (along with many of my customers) dismayed when the ’03 9-3s debuted as sedans, only! I know several folks who are desperately hanging on to their ’02’s until another hatch appears! Elegance AND practicality are the soul of Saab!

900 classic cab
Guest

Well, I must say I’m amazed by these replies, I really am guys. I never thought that this would be so important for so many people, sorry. As for me, I don’t like my cars to be workhorses…that’s just me. Pickups and commercial vehicles are made for that.

James
Member
as an owner of 3 SAAB sedans, I agree, they are still wonderful cars… but I agree with the others: a hatch is super useful and a defining SAAB feature! The *absence* of a hatch in the lineup for a decade is just wrong (especially where the Opel ng9-5 cousin got one!), though the sportcombis are great (especially for the larger car), the back end of the late model 9000 was pure genius… extremely elegantly executed… other than that, 9-5 wagon, 9-3 hatch made (and still makes) a lot of sense… As sedans go, Saab sedans are quite practical: One… Read more »
maanders
Member
Yes, pickups and commercial vehicles are also made for hauling things, but then when I need one, I either need to own one, rent one, or pay someone else to haul something for me. I love my 9-3 hatchback because most of the time it looks and drives like a sport sedan, but when I need to bring home or transport some larger item or a lot of stuff, I can do it with my same vehicle for no extra cost. Call me cheap. I prefer to call it practical. 🙂 I do, though, understand why some people prefer a… Read more »
RS
Member

+1
We’ve bought older Saabs because no hatchbacks were available with the NG 9-3 or OG 9-5.
I wonder how many decided not to pick up a new Saab in the last decade because of the fact?

Dan P
Member

I’m with you on that. The hatch is a defining feature of Saab – it’s the combination of practicality with coupe styling that is sorely lacking in models like the og9-5 and the 9000, IMO. I’d argue that the best looking Saab’s are the hatchback models.

ivo 71
Member

Excuse me? Perhaps you only know the 9000 CD which is a sedan but the 9000 CS IS a hatchback, and a very spacious one, too, with actually more cubic feet of loading space than the 9-5 station wagon.

As to styling, tastes differ. To me, my 9000 is the perfect combination of sporty looks, comfort, luxury and high performance while offering all the advantages of a 5-door hatch. For many years, the 9000 was one of only two big hatchbacks on the market. The other was the Renault Safrane. Not a bad car I guess but, well…

Ivo

James
Member
Many many former Saab owners here have switched to Subaru since the 9-3ss was released… why? hatchbacks + snow capability. To me, there is a big difference in how Subarus + Saabs drive. I love driving Saabs, whereas the Subarus I’ve driven (admittedly, not the impreza/wrx/sti yet) have been very underwhelming… but they are practical, are available with manual transmissions, etc, and that is good enough for many to make the switch (vs a 9-3 sedan or more expensive 9-5)… GM made a conscious decision with the 9-3ss to drop the Saab faithful + go after 3 series and A4… Read more »
maanders
Member

When I nee to replace my 2000 9-3 hatchback, my plan had been to get a new 9-3 Sportcombi as the next best alternative, but when I heard about the new 9-3 replacement coming again in a hatchback…..THAT is why Saab must survive so that car can live!

Skipper
Member

I too have to carry a lot of stuff, I’m a drummer so I have a drum kit to carry about. I now have a 93X, my previous Saab was a 95 estate. They are just the most versatile vehicles in my view!

900 classic cab
Guest

9-3 X is cool ! 😉

Wayner
Member

I totally agree with you duckhead99, and why is it now that BMW and AUDI have hatchbacks or sportbacks, or whatever they call them these days. I love my SAAB hatchback and will always own one!

duckhead99
Member

I remember pulling up next to a BMW at a stop light in my ’85 SPG with 2 complete c900 drivetrains (engine and trans.) in the back and hauling a car trailer with ANOTHER SPG on it. The BMW guy looked @ me with astonishment and I just said “What?….Can’t YOUR european sport sedan do this?”. That SPG had the rear seat bottom removed and the seat back was always down. I called it the “SPT” for “Swedish pickup truck”! Had to give it up to rust @ 300K miles!

900 classic cab
Guest

Never thought this post could bring so much discussion 🙂 wasn’t there a poll some time ago where we could choose the most suitable model for us ? I got curious now..
But hey, do you remember when the 2003 onward 9-3 was launched what they said about it ? That the sales of the 9-5 as a sedan increased a lot with that and they were hoping the 9-3 could also follow its steps, and when I saw it, I knew I’d have to have one 🙂

Thylmuc
Member
Here’s my hypothesis: When the 9-5 was introduced, people happily bought it, since it was a new, modern model. Some were fine with the sedan, others only found out after buying that the hatch might have been more important to them than they had assumed (a neighbour of my parents once told me that his 9-5 was a “completely different car” than his previous 9000. Right in the next sentence, he however stated the the hatch had really been a practical thing). In addition, more new buyers (especially in the US) bought the 9-5 because it was now a “standard”… Read more »
BMW Rider
Member

One of the best if not best sales year in Saab’s history was 2006 when the lineup didn’t include a hatchback in either 9-3 or 9-5.

James
Member
It’s true. I read somewhere that 2007 was the peak, someone can correct me, but you’re basically right: the 9-3ss sold very well. The thing is Thylmuc is also right on here. GM blatantly went after 3 series + A4 buyers with the 9-3ss + to some extent it worked. It did increase sales and bring new customers into the brand, though probably not as much as GM hoped. *but* it also alienated the faithful hatch fan-base… I know someone who moved from a 9000 hatch to 9-5 sedan + had the exact same comments: “9-5 is very nice, but… Read more »
rune
Member
To me, it is not about keeping the old faithful happy. IMO, that is flawed reasoning and not something a forward looking product should be designed around. A good Saab should make sense. I am looking for versatility (good winter qualities + decent IKEA load capability) as well as sportiness (safe driving on the autobahn going 220kph+ or rallying on gravel roads in the forrest). The hatchback seems like an obvious solution. The combi just feels wrong to me and a sedan simply won’t cut it. Apparently market research was done in the 90s, and that apparently showed that Saab… Read more »
RS
Member

Had Saab/GM offered a hatchback and an upgraded interior with the face-lifted NG 9-3 sales would have gone through the roof.
We bought a 9-3 SS in 2003 but only after my wife stated that she wouldn’t drive anything else, period. Easy decisions after that.
I wasn’t really too happy with the though of putting the dog(s) on the backseat since the ‘inexpensive’ 99 GL. Knowing that we would need an other car to ‘haul stuff’ didn’t make me jump up and down of joy either.

Allan B
Member

Well, I can get four musicians, two amps, two guitars, leads, mics and pedals, other sundries, and a drum kit (kick drum, snare and stand, hanging tom, floor tom, hi-hat, two cymbals and stands) into a 9-3 sportsaloon and still have room left over for an Ikea flatpack.*

* Okay, the last bit was a lie. An exceedingly keen groupie might fit though.

Khrisdk
Member

Hmm..I’ve heard of things like that. Probably depends on your preferences in music.
I can only fit my guitargear in the back with the rear seats down, and will have to keep my guitars in the passenger seat side in my OG9-3 😉
The rest of the band will have to walk. No groupies, Pity..

duckhead99
Member

I Do believe that a Saab hatch is the ultimate musician ride. I love it when I load out of a gig carrying my bass bins out to my C900, step up on the rear bumper and walk right into the back of the car……Folks leaving the bar do a double take and often ask “What kind of car IS that?”

Rio
Member

I Believe in Saab ……:)

akis96
Member

Welcome Anne!
Transporting refrigerators? Last year we transported about 4 since a few within the family needed replacement. I still remember the sales guy one store: “This one is never going to fit” – “It will – no problem – we drive a Saab 9000 hatch”. And it did. Our Saab 9000 is a great and save ride and a workhorse if needed.

tknage
Member

Ha! Ha! Our dishwasher is broken as it happens. We do have a 900 sedan with trailer hook and a trailer. Obvious choice for the task perhaps? But, I think I will use our 900 combi coupe and no trailer just for the heck of it.

Slobbomeister
Member

Welcome to SU! Never give up and keep on posting. Griffin up!

Troels, Denmark
Member

Nice and positive writing Anne! Thanks a lot for that – and welcome! 🙂
I fully agree that Saab is needed – also for its philosophy, integrity and way of thinking…
I really hope a good solution will be found soon …

saabtec
Member

Welcome aboard, Anne

–Jeff in Michigan

maanders
Member

Welcome, Anne! I have many relatives in Minnesota so I am familiar with your part of the country.

coggs
Member

Those Scandinavians who came to North America made a long trecherous trip; across the ocean, thru dense forests, crossing rivers, foraging for food as they went. In general going through all sorts of hardship, just to settle in Minnestoa, a place nearly as cold and dark as the one they left behind.

hughw
Member

There’s a couple of great movies from the early 70s that really illustrate how hard it was to come and how hard it was once the got here. Both are directed by Jan Troell and star Liv Ullman and Max Von Sydow. The Emigrants and The New Land.

BMW Rider
Member
4 out of the 6 Saabs I have owned have been convertibles, they did make one of the best 4 person convertibles in the world. The other 2 are sedans. The hatchback, or lack of, was never an issue for me to be honest but I’d have liked to have seen a coupe version of the latest 9-3 and even 9-5….. Anyway, though I think there could be a place in the lineup for a stylish hatch I don’t I don’t think that feature by itself, even though practical, defines what a Saab is anymore than being a 2 stroke… Read more »
900 classic cab
Guest

great post

Jatri Mäkelä
Member
Nice words about SAAB! It was written by a female, so I need to tell something that happened over 10 years ago. I had met my current wife, we had many discussions. At some point of time, it was about the car I drive. I told is SAAB ( 9000 2.3i A, CD 1990, with ACC & cruise, sedan). The answer was some time silent, OK. She saw the SAAB, drove it. We got married. She drivers every day our SAAB (9-5 Aero A Sedan 2008). She would like to have 9-4X. Unfortunately we are nowadays “Saabholics”. It is not… Read more »
derek
Member

I also believe in Saab.

I just hope that I will be a fan of a living Saab, not a fan of a car like the Delorean, Bricklin, or Rover.

Angelo V.
Member

Great introductory article—-looking forward to reading more!

peppie
Member

This is SAAB, we all care about our cars,and we are one community. Welcome Anne !! I am a believer as well !!

Greetings from stormy Belgium

Saablime
Member
Welcome, Anne! I agree: the world needs the SAAB brand now more than ever. SAAB is people who are dedicated to doing things the right way. That’s why driving a SAAB has always been more to me than just driving a cool car – it was also about a commitment to a certain ethic. That value is more important now than ever. That’s why we must continue to fight to save SAAB. I’m also among those who have done an unbelievable amount of hauling the back of my Saabs. And where am I going camping with my son this weekend?… Read more »
hughw
Member
a couple of comments. We’ve been lucky enough to buy new Saabs every 3 or 4 years since 1982. Obviously, we’ve always loved them, but Annie is right about the earlier ones having problems of one sort or another. Interestedly, as they’ve gotten more GM, they’ve also become much more reliable. We’ve had essentially zero problems with our 9-5s and now a couple of recent 9-3 combis. As far as carrying stuff, we have a country house on Martha’s Vineyard. It always seem like we’re going there with a full load whether it be a piece of furniture or a… Read more »
paddan
Member

Totally agree that the GM era cars while not as exciting as earlier cars were much better executed. My experience is based on ownership of Saabs since 1980. That said, still love my 1980 900 5 door Turbo!

Angelo V.
Member
My GM era (2004) 9-5 ARC Wagon has been very reliable. We bought it based on the advice of a friend of my late wife—-who had a Saab and a Volvo and told us the Saab was much more reliable (Her’s was also a GM era Saab.). No doubt the engineering and reliability of the GM Saabs was/is solid. I think they cheaped out on some of the interior materials compared to the earlier Saabs. I remember the 80s era Saabs having tremendous quality inside—-and the GM era ones going with cheaper plastics and leathers—-but all in all, still great… Read more »
troy
Member

That’s a great point you made. There are really no 2004 GM products that aren’t crappers besides Saabs. What would you buy in a sedan that is GM from 2005 down? Saabs only one worth looking at.

Thylmuc
Member

Cars have generally gotten more reliable, not only Saabs. I wouldn’t necessarily attribute the increase in quality to GM, but to technical progress.

RS
Member

I agree. The parts that hold up better are made by suppliers other than GM anyway (bearings, gaskets etc. etc.). As mentioned before what I’d give GM credit is the factory tooling and the process of building the NG Saabs.
That was one of the reasons I was very much looking forward to the NG 9-5 SC.

aZuL2001
Member

Welcome Anne.

You’re not the only one I find myself patting the dash at times, but will have to talk to Swade about I’m no stranger to hugging my car either. 😉

kochje
Member

Welcome Anne, nice to have you join the SU team.

SAABLMNL
Member

Thanks Anne. Passion is what fuels life; SAAB will live on, It has “9” lives! SAAB is special and it won’t be exhausted by GM or by anything/anyone else.
John in NY

Jonas Axelsson
Member

The last Saab I had that would haul a refrigerator was an 89 900. If I could get it started with only 40,000 on it.

Besides, if you put a fridge on it’s side it usually belches the coolant out and you might ruin it. Don’t do that.

turbokalle
Member

Looking forward to reading what’s on your mind. Great to have a woman writer on the team.
I love your maiden article. Sums things up pretty well!

andyb
Member

good to see a female on the team

Tilley
Member

Looking forward to reading more of your articles Anne!

Jan Österlund
Guest
Not all at once , I have had 3 -5.9 limted high powered jeeps , 2 vw Vanagon campers , 5 Mercedes , 2 Jaguars , 15 Audi’s. Then 1 day A lighting blue Saab Viggen came into my hands and oh man this was it. I drove this Viggen all around South and north Carolina for 4 months. Since that Viggen Ive had 2 more and now A 1995 Saab 9000 Aero the car has been modified for my driving pleasure. I will be driving this Saab From Mass to Captiva Florida in just a few hours. Driving a… Read more »
CSD_ChineseSaabDriver
Member

Driving a Saab is more than just driving its living.

Oh man that’s it, Saab is a life style.

ryanonsrc
Member

A fitting debut Anne 🙂

You have done so much for the Saab Community that it is great to finally have you aboard. And yes, I echo your sentiments …

Eric G
Member

i believe too

Hirsch
Member

Great debut article, Anne! I’m proud to count you among my friends, the group of friends that understand Saab addiction!

CSD_ChineseSaabDriver
Member

Great written.

Saaboholic (meaning addicted to Saab) — YEAH that’s it, so AM I.

SAAB UP!

Cheers : )

julie@KellySAAB
Member

Are we going to have to start a new group called SA? (SAABaholics Anonymus) haha
I will happily be a lifetime member.
SAAB Up!
Thanks, Anne, for all your positivity and congrats on joining the team at SU!

Julie

Angelo V.
Member

GM News: They are moving Chevy Volt production to: (Drum Roll Please)…………….China.
Isn’t that hilarious? American taxpayers bailed out GM under the pretense of “saving American jobs” and the Volt was the poster child for ingenuity and rebirth—-and they now plan to produce in China. Meanwhile, they squash Saab—-non-threatening, tiny Saab and car upstart Youngman. Isn’t that wild? GM, focused like a laser on good public relations. Jerks. Moochers. Morons.

troy
Member

Seriously? I think the Volt is going to be a major problem for GM. I think this is just the beginning of new problems which will bring GM back down.

Angelo V.
Member

Troy: That’s not even the half of it. They’ve recalled all of the Volts they sold to fix a problem that could result in fires. I think they have to reinforce the compartment that surrounds the batteries. The funniest part of the story was that they said “Chevrolet had to recall all 8000 Volts sold…” 8000? After the hundreds of millions of dollars buried in development and promotion, with a huge push from the U.S. government—-they’ve only sold 8000 units? Could that even be right or did I hear it wrong?

troy
Member

Your right, 8000 is a joke. That amount of sales probably wouldn’t even pay the advertising budget for the Volt in papers, TV, online ads, and magazines.

Angelo V.
Member

I just went on GM Facebook and blasted them and again identified myself as a Saab fan. We need to get back on there and flood them again. Around Christmas, there were far more Saab posts on GM’s pages than GM posts. They need to keep hearing from us.

Baver
Member
And I will add this again from an earlier post I made on Facebook. Call them often before 5PM Eastern Standard Time! I posted this on Saab Cars’s Facebook page, but thought it would be good to pass this on to all of you as well. It may also be nice if we could encourage them to pick up our warranties on 2010-2011 SWAN/Spyker Saabs in North America. —–Saab owners, dealers, former employees, enthusiasts: Contact GM and let them know about your displeasure with their handling of the Saab situation. You will reach a REAL live person. Also, you can… Read more »
100%Saab
Member

Two negatives does not make a positive. GM is a lost cause. Try something positive for Saab. So, lobby for the Saab warranties.

Thylmuc
Member

It’s an image project. Actually, electric cars are far from being a replacement for conventional cumbustion engine cars. There are no appropriate batteries – invented yet.

The Volt’s problems are again correlated with the batteries.

Angelo V.
Member

True, but Toyota has moved quite a lot of their Prius.

rune
Member
The hybrid Volvo V60 is said to enter the Swedish market at 560000 SEK. Their base model will thus cost 100000+ SEK more than my 2011 9-5 Aero! I suspect my 9-5 has a lot more luxuries in it, and I can drive a heckuva long distance for 100K SEK! The Prius, being a smaller car, is hopefully a lot cheaper..? I am curious: Is there a hybrid that makes any sense in the market place? The V60, as presented in AutoMotorSport, doesn’t mention any torque vectoring or fancy AWD techniques at all. The information presented on the Phoenix 9-3… Read more »
Angelo V.
Member
The Prius is a practical car. I have one that is my daily driver—-not owned by me, but a company car assigned to me. I can use the high occupancy vehicle lanes even when I’m alone because my state allows that (since the car pollutes less and uses less gas). The Prius has comfortable room for four (not five—-I wish manufacturers would stop squeezing three seatbelts in the back of cars that are really sized for two people back there. When they do that, child seats and booster seats are far more difficult to buckle in because the seating spaces… Read more »
Red J
Member

I’m not 100% sure about that, but my bets are that the V60 is also based on Fords C platform, you know Focus, C-MAX, Kuga, Volvo C30,C70, S40, V50.

And No, the AWD from Volvo has no torque vectoring capabilities, and has a big Diesel in the engine bay, which will give you only avg. mileage on the highway (beyond 50kph and 50 km).

And, and, and …..

Being the worlds first is not a good idea 😉

troy
Member

Cool. Nice to have you on board.

Eleven
Member

Nice one Anna, and welcome. Saaboholic, yes, that’s me too, I have loved SAABs for over 20 years, owned 7 and currently own 2 – no matter what happens, i’ll still keep buying them until there are literaly no more to buy (I’ll panic about no warrenty when I need it)

I’ll also continue to spread the SAAB love : http://elevencreative.wordpress.com/

Eleven
Member

Apologies, I mean Anne. I have an Anna sitting next to me!! It’s early, and I need a coffee.

Trued
Member

Anne, welcome here at SU and most of all welcome to Sweden (have You been here??) whenever You feel like curing Your Saab issues.

RMinNJ
Member

While only on my third Saab now (2003 9-5 aero)..they are the last 3 cars I’ve brought. If
I had to buy another brand I have no idea what I would buy.. nothing has more fans/enthusiast/nuts that I know of.

The 2011 Saab Convention; a lot of enthusiastic Saab people.
The 2005 Carsile Import and Kit car show; Saab had the most cars there compared to Volvo, Fiat, MG, even VW.

katar1na
Member

Welcome, SAAB-sister 😉

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