Driving Habits Polls

Updated: It’s been a few months, but this info is finally going to come in handy for a new series we’ll be starting next week. If you haven’t already answered, feel free to chime in the poll. Also I’ve added one new poll at the beginning related to how many cars are in your household and where you park your car at night and during the day.

It’s taken a while for us to get here, but finally there’s light at the end of the tunnel and I think it’s time to start exploring the possibilities of what a future at Saab could be. As part of my research for a lengthier piece, I need to conduct a quick poll to see how far the average SU reader commutes to and from work and how far they drive on their days off (or if they don’t drive to a typical stationary job). And who doesn’t love a good poll every now and then? 🙂 Feel free to sound off in comments and explain how far you drive and where you are. This isn’t the time to read into the question yet, that’s for the next post I do shortly after we have results. Thanks!

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55 thoughts on “Driving Habits Polls”

  1. Almost exactly 30 kms.
    And I drive either our Saab 9000CSE2.3T -93 or our Opel Omega Caravan 2.0 -99.
    I’m sad to say that now that the summer heat is finally here, the ACC in our Saab has gone sauna on us. It only delivers very hot air. Thankfully, the car is equipped with sunroof. 😉

    • Regarding the amount of cars; we live on a farm and have a lot of space for our cars. So, apart from the Opel (and some other vehicles), we own six Saabs; 93b -58, 96 -61, 96V4 -69, 95V4 -69, 9000CD2.3 -90 and 9000CDE2.3T -94. And we have a Fiat campervan (mobile home) for the longer trips.

  2. I’m like Mike – I travel to Sunny Berkshire everyday, but from Richmond – 29 miles each way.

    Split the journey between a Dame Edna Aero and an 11 year old Golf SE 1.6 Auto (SWMBO’s)

    Economy is the same on both….9-5 more luxurious, Golf more nimble, and has sunroof.

  3. Because of bad traffic, even if you drive short distance, you can spend more time in your car, that’s why the quality and friendliness of your car is as important, as car’s behaviour at distance.

  4. I don’t drive to work by car, I’m using a train. For long distance drives I take my 9-3 from 2003. In the summer days (as today in Germany) I always drive with my 900 Convertible.

  5. I tend to be on the road all day for business, so my work driving varies considerably. It is not unusual for me to put on 100 miles a day or more on either of my old Saabs which each already have near 300,000 miles on the clock. (Right now I’m favoring my ’86 900S since the weather is getting warm and the A/C is not working on my 9000.)

  6. i am in the (fortunate) circumstance that i live close to my work: a 5-7 minute walk should do. despite this, i have 3 Saabs:
    the Good Old 1986 Saab 9000i (149k km)
    the 1993 Saab 9000CD Griffin (214k km)
    and the 1999 OG9-3 2.0i with Aero interior and LPG-i.(340k km)

    🙂

    keep on Saabing!

  7. My office is 15 miles (25 kilometres) from my home, but as i frequently work at client sites varying from 25 to 300 miles distant, my commute varies wildly.
    My furthest commute is from my home to Kleve, Germany via the Harwich to hook of Holland ferry, 455 miles, in a 9-5 Aero I had as a loan vehicle while I waited for my 9-3.

  8. i’m on a bike 75 % in the week. Driving my Saab is 100 % having fun or travelling in holidays (more fun) or just cruise on the weekend and Saabine like’s to get topless. 🙂
    Anyway work is circa 4 km, sometimes when i have things to do after work i take the car… or in the winter.

  9. cycle into Shrewsbury……8 miles, at all hours of the day, then 8 mile sback knackered. Drive a variety of police vehicles thro the course of my shift…love the vivaro van !!!! clock up around 35 mile a shift depending whats going on

  10. Hope I don’t skew the results. I’m retired so it’s 0-10km for me but it was 50km+ for a good part of my working career, being that I live in a rural area.

  11. 130+ miles a day five days a week to work at the Saab dealer plus extra personal driving = 35K – 40K miles per year on my 9-3. I would have loved a diesel 9-3 here in the US to bump my mpg from low 30’s to mid 40’s plus. If a ‘loaded’ VW Golf tdi diesel can cost approx $30K here in the US (and they sell ALL they can get!) I think there was definitely room for a Saab to sell a significant number of units this way. I also think an eco version of the current gasoline 9-3 with a slightly detuned 2.0T DI with various aero/gearing/tire/weight tweaks would have been very interesting. Never been a fan of how hybrids drive though (at least up to this point) so we shall see what the future brings.

  12. While I selected the third option (20km-30km (12.4mi-18.6mi) ), that is only part of the story. Several evenings a week I need to travel not just back and forth to work, but also to other parts of the city for other meetings and activities. I also own only one car (which is why I own a 9-3 hatchback….very multipurpose)….except for my Sonett III. My primary car needs to be multipurpose, both for commuting, traveling around the city and for the occasional out of town trip. In a typical year, I put 15,000 miles on my 9-3, even though my daily commute is only about 14 miles each way.

    • If I had a shorter commute and did not drive as much each year, I would not need a Saab for the very comfortable seats. 🙂

  13. @Jeff
    Do not assume that it is always possible to commute by car. In fact, in Central London it is becoming unthinkable to commute by car. Where I live they’re building flats, whose new occupants do not even have the right to ask the local council for a permit to park on the road. Parking spaces, if you can get one, underneath the blocks cost as much as the car. And there would be no chance of a parking space the other end unless you’re the CEO. Then there’s the Congestion Charge. Forget it! Absolutely!

    • Thanks jond. I definitely didn’t mean to imply that people could only commute by car, I just wanted to get an idea of the daily drive of commuters from our website. For the casual Saab driver who rides the train or subway but takes their car out on the weekend or for side trips around town, only the second poll applies :).

      • I understand, and you also use the word casual entirely correctly, but I can tell you that there is nothing at all casual about having the Saab in my driveway (it won’t fit into the garage). It is the promise of potential freedom and escape from the confines of urban living. I just have to look at the car and know that within twenty minutes I can be beyond the City’s speed restrictions and cruising in open countryside, heading upcountry or to the coast. So its presence is calming, whether it takes me to work or not.

        Incidentally, an electric city-car would not have the same psychological effect at all – I would worry about the charge all the time and feel trapped.

  14. I`m retired, but my shortest journey (shopping) is a 2 mile round trip. But my driving also includes long motorway journeys, medium distance urban/semi-urban journeys and some rural trips.

  15. the first question is tricky for me – a mixture of home office / clients / office … a mixture 0 – 400 km. So an average is there.

  16. While my drive to the office is barely five miles, I’m on the road in my region for business. Some days, I might drive 10 miles for work, and other days I’ve been in the car 200+ miles in a day. I typically drive 30k-40k miles/year. Nearly all of it’s done in my 9-5 Aero, now well past 300k miles.

  17. I work all over the place, so I don’t have a regular commute. I do around 25,000 miles a year in my 9-3. If I am in town, I walk.

  18. 35km each way in my ’91 900S (145hp low pressure turbo T16)
    From a town on the northern east coast of Sweden in land to a small village with a big Bosch Rexroth plant.

    I like the 900 but it is showing it’s age especially on winter surface compared to newer Saabs/cars, so I’m planning a swap. It has never let me down though. 🙂

  19. I live 21 miles from work, so 42 miles round trip. Mostly Boston highways, but sometimes very, very slow. 21 miles can take over an hour or even an hour and a half sometimes. Thankfully I don’t have to go in everyday. I typically work at the office 3 days per week, with other work from home. That saves on my 2011 9-3’s wear and tear and keeps the mileage reasonable. I need it to last a very long time, especially now. On weekends, evenings out, and days off the other household car gets used more: a 2005 Nissan Sentra. It’s not as fun as the Saab by any means, but the replacement parts are more readily available should anything unfortunate happen.

  20. 220 km five days a week. My Saab (9.3 Tdi Vector) is my “home”.
    Would need a new 9.5 but with a bigger diesel (BMW?) engine.

    • @TonymacUK I took this to mean “holiday” or “vacation”.

      Had to smile at…

      How often do you use your car for long trips over 100km (62 mi)?

      That’s long? We often do 300+ mi on a Saturday, trip to the in-laws is c. 1000mi round trip.

      Saab 93 SW Vector Sport 120 TiD ’06 113k mi, between 46-54 mpg imp (best = 64mpg)

  21. Three times a week I trek down the M1 from J9 to London to visit clients. No way would I want to do that in an electric. Hybrid, maybe….

  22. This has been an eye opening thread for me. Most of you are much braver than I am. My 1999 9-3 has 130k miles on it now and I would never dream of taking it on a trip for fear it would leave me stranded somewhere. It has never failed me yet but I would worry too much. I bought a new Outback to use on trips or when i go outside of town. I’m also shopping for a replacement for a 2003 9-5 for the same reason. It has left my mom stranded more than once and she doesn’t trust it for trips longer than 20 miles or so now. She’s in her 60s so a breakdown is a big deal for her. I guess “long drive” really is a relative term.

    • I’ve been driving Saabs since buying a new 900 in 1985. In all that time I’ve only been stranded twice, both fuel pump failures which had I done proactive replacements would not have happened. (I do keep a toolbox in the trunk just in case…)

      • Jersey: What are the symptoms of a fuel pump failure? Humming/vibrating noises? I posted on the technical forum—-just a couple weeks ago, when the weather got colder—-I had a hard start one morning. I actually had to push the gas pedal to get it started. First time in 8 years of ownership of this 2004 9-5 ARC that it didn’t start on the first turn of the key (not including when it needed new batteries). Anyway, since then—-it’s never been that hard to start again. But I notice if I don’t run it for a couple days, the first time, it doesn’t start. It turns right over on the second try. After that, all day long, it starts immediately, first try. When it sits again for a day or two—-it might take two tries. Dealer said it could be a tired battery, not strong enough to power everything to start it immediately. I’m wondering if that is the case—or if it could be fuel delivery at start up?

  23. 🙂 about 10 km to work, but I drive all the time at work to customers. I´d say about 200 km a day per avarege. This is with my 9-5 2,3t BP which I´m hanging on to although my company´s been wanting me to change car fo a year now or so. In the weekends, I can´t avoid taking my wifes car, a 2001 9-3 Aero, although the 9-5 is pratically free of charge to drive.

  24. Love to cruise the Hirsch on German highway 😉
    Use the 95 1-2 times a week and normally take the train to work. As we’ve family members/ friends in germany and austria trips from Switzerland have at least a 400 km up to 800 km distance one way. Had 24.000 km in the first year having the 95 and enjoyed the time.

  25. On the way to work (40 miles of winding country roads through Oregon wine country in a manual aero wagon), I heard a story on public radio on how researchers have found a way to triple the life of lithium batteries. I think batteries are very much in their infancy. Hybrids are only a short term solution around the battery life problem.

    I think the industry realizes that they need a car with a 500-1000 (or greater) mile range, the ability to charge enough battery for a 50 mile trip in under 1/2 hour, and the ability to travel 2-3 days without charging when doing things like outdoor activities.

    If NewSaab is among the first to hit those benchmarks and also no longer has incentive to offer dinosaur-fueled dinosaur engines, we can all go to the BMW fan websites and worry about the decline BMW in the face of the NewSaab Juggernaut.

  26. Our two 9-3s cover nearly 100 miles between them every day, whilst the classic 900 convertible only does around 100 miles a week. Whichever we choose to drive, they’re all hugely comfortable and a pleasure to spend time in, 1 year old or 20, it really doesn’t matter.

  27. So what most respondents to the poll have indicated is that an electric and/or hybrid SAAB could be a solution.

    Keep an open mind folks, you never know what might fall into it.

  28. SAABBob

    It’s actually the exact opposite…..

    For me, I average on 300+ miles / 480+ km. 5 days per week and 100+ miles per day on the weekend.  

    When doing that kind of mileage 
    there are certain non-negotiables in the car one drives… To name only a few: 

     • Great Seats: Comfortable and supportive, soft yet firm, side bolsterings, gripping you and “letting you breate” all at once,  with lumbar suppor and power operated…etc. 

    • Comfort: it needs the perfect blend of size, roominess; functional storage, clean aura, able to eat, sleep and live in the car and not even feel like its being lived out of. Etc

    • Power and Drivetrain: first it needs to be able to handle what is going to be thrown at it but beyond that it is important that I NOT be driving a glorified Barbie Corvette.

    Performance/Strentrh/Safety: it must be able to actually accelerate when I hit the gas, it must be able to provide subtle reminders to the A4/Jetta/Maxima/325/Mustang/aNd similar crowds cam learn their daily lesson of what real performance on demand is like. It has to drive with confidence And do so in All weather conditions, especially snow (xwd virtually a must) it must be loaded with safety features and so on. 

    Basically anything other than a Gas powered, driver-centric, real traditional cars of today’s real world are of zero use to me, possess Zero appeal, have zero practicality, zero fun “vibe” and therefor have zero chance of me spending a single dime on a car – SAAB or not – that cannot do EVERYTHING as well as or better than the most recently produced normal vehicle. 

    In this current reality, any vehicle without a GAS  or DIesel ICE  does not fit that bill and that’s a bad thing.  Until we reach the day where we are told of a Major breakthrough or multiple major breakthroughs in technology for alternative vehicle power I will have to hold on to my current SAAB lineup and pray. 

    Im going to take a wait and see approach for now but this entire  thing is not a positive situation right now. 

    Here can be the new marketing ad:

    “SAAB…Born from Mattell”

  29. I travel 28 k one way to work I live in Brisbane Australia I have 4 Saabs 1988 9000 turbo hatch 2004 93 arc 2004 93 Aero conv 2008 93 vector lux diesel all garaged

  30. This poll is indeed somewhat flawed. For example, it seems to assume that on working days, you will only commute from home to work. That is a pretty short distance for me. However, I also drive to the riding stable after work (and then back home), so that my daily stretch is about 50 km.

  31. None in our family commutes by car everyday. We all walk, cycle or take the train to school/work. Regular trips for shopping, transport etc are seldom longer than 10-30 km. However, our car (or at least one of them) must work for longer trips too. We have relatives living 60-100 km away which we visit relatively often. Our summer house is 370 km away and we make several trips a year thither. During those trips a halfway charge of more than 30 minutes is not viable. Currently we have two cars, a 9-5 2.0t Sedan MY99 and a 9-5 2.0t BioPower SportCombi MY06, and perhaps one of them could be replaced with an electric car, but I think we’d prefer to keep one with an ethanol-powered engine. If the EV would have a range extender or a hybrid drivetrain, more doors would be opened, of course.

    • I thought of putting that option down, but I was mainly looking to address commuters and people who use their car on a daily basis. Can I ask why a pit stop for 20-30 minutes isn’t an option for you for a trip you make maybe a dozen or so visits to a year (sorry if it’s more trips than that, I’m just making a guess)? Just curious why you couldn’t budget that time for a break on a trip, especially if the cost for plugging in vs. refueling with biofuel is a fraction.

      • Maybe I was unclear (I’m not a native English speaker) but what I was trying to write was that a halfway charge of MORE than 30 minutes isn’t viable. Up to 30 minutes would be OK, as long as there are charging poles/stations in relative proximity to a restaurant since one needs lunch breaks on such trips anyway. 🙂

          • I wouldn’t mind a 30 minute stop as long as it isn’t every 3 hours. When I drive long distances for holidays (typically 1,500 km to my destination) I stop when I need to fill up, usually after 6 or 7 hours of driving. Stopping every three hours for 30 minutes isn’t economical time wise.

              • Not possible yet. The maximum current presently defined in IEC is 240 kW. However, plugs only reach 43 kW in Europe, or 62 kW for the CHAdeMO. For the “big” Tesla S at 80 kWh battery, that would mean 1.5 – 2 h charging time. Which would give you a range of 300 miles in the USA, at 55 mph. However, if you drive faster, like in Europe, the range will crumble. I did an estimate, based on data from Tesla’s home page, and iirc, the result was that at 180 km/h, the range goes down to 240 kilometers, i.e. about 1.5 h of continues driving. So, there is actually a very low average top speed, since what you would gain by driving faster, you loose by recharging time.

                Battery capacity has to go up to 200 kWh, and recharging “speed” to the max of 240 kW, until EVs can compete with combustion engine cars. I however think that this is feasible.

                • Tesla is bringing their superchargers to Europe according to Musk. And directly from their page,

                  At 90 kW, a Tesla Supercharger delivers 4.5x more electricity to your battery than Twin Chargers [which deliver 62 miles of range per hour charge time]. All this power is safely routed using special cables that connect directly to your battery, bypassing onboard charging equipment. This allows Model S to efficiently charge at highway speeds when you’re out on the open road. And, at many locations, solar cells mounted on the weather canopy charge your Model S with solar energy.

                  I highly doubt NEVS will be able to use the Tesla superchargers, but other DC fast charging solutions are being deployed in the US, so I could see Europe following soon after.

                  I’m curious to see your math based on the Tesla superchargers or ecotricity’s blink dc fast chargers with higher kW than you project based on Europe’s current limitations. You’re totally right about it not being feasible right now, I’m with you 100%. Fortunately there’s a good 18-24 months for infrastructure to advance before the first Saabs are even rolling around Europe. Also I’m just curious, where’d you get the range data for the 180 km/h? All I can find was this blog post.
                  Thanks! I love constructive dialogue about range! 🙂

  32. I work for myself based at home but travel to give presentations and training sessions, mainly across the UK but occasionally over in mainland Europe. My mileage varies enormously from month to month. I’m still using my 2001 9-3SE TiD which has 166,000 miles so far and hasn’t missed a beat yet …except when I drowned it in a flood last year!

    I replaced the air filter and MAF sensor and it is still alive and performing!

  33. Ok. This poll is ostensibly to research the viability and practicality of the EV. Well I drive 15 mi to work and park in a lot. Sometimes I leave it overnight and take the company car to the field. No place to plug in an electric and get juice from the coal fired power plant. Anyway I have my eyes on a Chevy Camaro, 350hp. This would be a nice anti-establishment vehicle guys. I might get one just to kick ass. In the meantime I’ll drive my Saab 900, it’s very exclusive. Have a nice day!

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