For Sale: SAAB 9-3 Convertible 2004 Hirsch & MapTun

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Skärmavbild 2014-08-07 kl. 08.10.27Cleaning up in my garage and now, summer soon over so I decided to let my convertible go.

It is a car that was originally sold by the Saab Dealer in Santa Monica California. As an ARC model with the HOT (High Output Turbo) 5 speed manual. The car was taken to Sweden in 2007 and got the AERO trim added. Also upgraded with the ice block design clear light clusters.

The car has never been driven in the winter ever, as new underneath, so NO salt issues ODO is at 112000 KM

The car has been gently modified to become an even better car compared to the day it left the Magna Steyer plant in Graz, Austria.

Engine,  L850 2,0 liter Turbo, MapTun Flexprogram Gasoline/Ethanol E85, Digital ignition upgrade to m/y .2005, Sachs race sinter clutch, Talliaferro Shortshifter, Ferrita Twinpipe race exhaust system with a race catalyst race down pipe. +280 bhp (never been on a dyno)

Chassis: Yellow adjustable KONI dampers front and back, HR Sportsprings, SAAB Original ALU 65 18″ 10 Spoke wheels, 9-3 AERO V6 314mm brakes. New Michelin Sport Pilot Tires just 1500 km.

Interior: Hirsch leather dash with white stitchings, Hirsch aluminium pedals, Hirsch doorhandles/handbrake and slot kit in leather, Hirsch aluminumlook on the glovebox, US auto dimming mirror with compass and garage door opener. AERO steering wheel y/m 2006, Radio Infotainment system 150, AUX/MP3 connector, upgraded front speakers.

Exterior: AERO body kit, Aero front and rear spoiler, US amber side front lights. Philips LED Daytime running lights, no holes in the soft-top that is in good condition, black rear mid brake light, rear parking sensors, fixed tow/hitch.709

Price to sell at € 12500 / 111600 SEK

Contact Cell phone +46709589632 /  jtrued[at] Skärmavbild 2014-08-07 kl. 07.41.08


31 thoughts on “For Sale: SAAB 9-3 Convertible 2004 Hirsch & MapTun”

  1. Really nice car! 🙂 I would like to buy it, but dont think I can afford the Danish taxes added to the prize, when imported, or the high insurance , when I have to park it on the streets in central Copenhagen…

    • What taxes? I am selling it to You as a private person. I can write You two receipts one on the “actual” sale price and one with a different number if You have to show that for a danish bureaucrat. The insurance on a car like this is low, the papers say 210 bhp. You can easily “downgrade” the engine for inspections and the “upgrade” ir again. In the sale You get the MapTun OBDII tuner unit. best of all You can go E85 and gasoline.

      • Apart from the rest of the Scandinavian countries (correct me if I’m wrong), Denmark and Finland have enormous automobile taxes. Even though you’d have a receipt for your purchase, the authorities will evaluate/compare the value of your car to cars which have been sold in your native country and adjust the amount of automobile tax to that level. Can’t really get away from that 🙁

        • Exactly! And regarding the insurance it it most a question of the “soft-top”. I actually investigated the case before I bought my 9-3ss and most insurancecompanyes wold not at all make an insurance for a cabrio, daily parked in the streets of central Cph. A few would, but the prices were enormous ( 3 – 4 times the price for a sedan)… 🙁

        • In Norway there is no way of telling exactly how much value the gov will put on your car. I e-mailed them about a MY12 9-3, asking what value it has seeing as there is no list price for a MY12 anywhere. They cannot use the MY11 price seeing as the car is worth much less after the bankruptcy.

          The answer? Well, you have to import a car to Norway to find out. Good luck figuring out your budget.

          As an atheist I miss the concept of an afterlife and the possibility of bureaucrats roasting in hell. But they will always enjoy a special place in my heart.

  2. I’m not giving you a hard time now Jörgen, just stating the obvious.

    It’s pretty telling when one of the maintainers of a enthusiast site proclaims that he will buy another brand after never buying anything else prior and when another starts to clean out the garage.

    • Just because we’re selling our cars and move on to other brands as our daily drivers doesn’t mean that we stop being enthusiasts. Feelings dont go away that easily and if Saab ever were to produce a new car with the right stuff, both me, Jörgen and many others would surely find our way back to buying a new Saab. We have after all bought several brand new ones in the past. But the fact remains that our cars are getting older and in the end what we drive is a big financial decision, I’ve already sold one of my 9-5’s and the other one will probably be sold soon too before it looses too much of its value. And I’m happy if the car goes to a person who will appreciate it and care for it for many more years!

      • I agree. You can be a Saab enthusiast and still have another car as your daily driver. I realized yesterday its been four years since I had to give up my Saab back to GM (it was a lease and you couldn’t buy them for a decent price in the bankruptcy) yet I still visit and read this site and Swade on a regular basis.

      • Mentally I’ve depreciated my two 9-3s to zero (trade in) value. To replace one of my 9-3s with a new car will cost $40,000 to $50,000 US. So, one of my 9-3s is worth nothing or $50,000. Depends on how you think about your car. I usually don’t buy used.

        • 100% Saab; I agree with you. My three 9- 3s are worth perhaps at this point, no more than $11-$12,000. They’re beginning to break down. One has 127,000, the other has 117,000, and the youngest one only has 90,000. What’s breaking ? The computers operating the doors, I.e. not locking,or unlocking correctly. alarms systems that go off when they shouldn’t, false readings about oil pressure, constant reminders that hundred thousand mile cars need dealer service, tune-ups, and that I should contacting my Saab dealer, who no longer exist.
          However, on the bright side, just today, I drove the Combi 100 miles from Payson Arizona to Show Low Arizona, and back, and averaged out 41 miles per gallon. This is a manual six speed, 07. The other two 9-3’s, though with niggling problems, average 34 and 31 miles per gallon. When we analyze what it would cost me to replace all three of these cars, including their future repair bills, and the cost of buying a new hybrid Toyota, or the like, due to the high yearly registration taxes on new registered cars in Arizona, we find mathematically, I should keep the Saabs. They are cheaper by operating mile. If the hybrid is only going to return 42 miles a gallon. And the Saabs will return 81% of that number, when multiplied by gallons used. In this case 882 versus 714 on a yearly basis ( 30,000 miles driven) that would only yield 168 gallons, at let’s say an average sales price of $3.55, or a savings of $569 per year. Now, how long you think it’s going to take me to absorb the cost of basically giving away my Saabs in order to buy a new Japanese car, a hybrid, that’s only going to save me $569 a year? Assuming they give me book value on my three cars, approximately $11,000, and that the hybrid will cost me, moderately equipped, around $36,000. The difference would be $25,000. At $600 hours a year it’ll take me 43.9 years to justify the purchase. This is not taken to account purchasing new batteries from time to time on this hybrid. I can assure you that my current age I’ll be long dead by then.
          However, I understand younger members of SU want the latest and greatest. I have no problem with that sentiment, I shared it myself. But it’s going to be a along time before you be able to financially justify blowing out a good old Saab fully capable of 250,000 miles for a new Asian hybrid. At least in the state of Arizona, due to the fact that they heavily tax new vehicles for registration fees. For example a new car costing $36,000 would pay a yearly registration fee of approximately $1200, whereas my 1985 Porsche 944 only cost $19.50. When you factor that in, it certainly deflates the added cost of repair on older vehicle. So as long as I live in Arizona, and as long as I get classic car insurance on any vehicle over 15 years old, then I will continue to drive my old Saabs, and the old 944. If I need the latest radio I can always go to Amazon

          • Decreasing, yes, to some extent. Changing, yes, to a larger extent. It’s exciting to think about the scores of people who finally have access to Saabs (thanks to the plummeting resale values) that never had access to them before, many of them young people. I am one of those young, less affluent people and I am amazed at the kind of Saab that I am able to afford currently. Do I wish that Saab was still around? Of course! But the bankruptcy helped me to afford the Saab of my dreams, an ’08 9-3 Aero 2.8T, MUCH sooner than I could have guessed. What a great potential future demographic from which to draw customers. NEVS/Saab/Mahindra are you listening?

  3. Despite the spin from Tim, it is telling, but not surprising. I’ve cleared out my Saab garage in recent times as well.

    It’s true the opposition are miles ahead of the GM & SWAN Saabs as I’ve long suspected and recently found out.

  4. Just for You guys who are concerned about the decreasing number of Saabs in my garage. Do not worry I still have at least 4 Saabs, 96 MonteCarlo V4 Rally, 99 Turbo CC Rally, 99 Turbo CC Pearl white and a 99 Turbo 4-Door Test car. Having bought a new TurboX and a Saab Automobile Test car NG 9-5 with 10000 Km on the odo I have been really loyal to the brand in the recent years. Buying NEW cars is the only REAL way of supporting a car company. Those of You complaining when was the last time You bought a Brand New Saab?

    • In the case of Saab there’s NEVS and Orio. Under normal conditions production and after sales resides in one company. So in this case buying parts is the best way to support a company, there’s the real revenue. To support Orio is maybe a key to a relaunch of Saab Automobile (dealer network). But first of all this cars need to be build to get that high profit.
      My 95 Hirsch has 273k km on the odo, the 93-I convertible has 100k km. I don’t care about. Still spending money to give them live extensions.

    • “Those of You complaining when was the last time You bought a Brand New Saab?” –

      First of all I’m not complaining and secondly to answer your question:

      I purchased a “Brand New” NG 9-5 – 2011 – pre bankruptcy by 1 month- retail price – then here we lost our warranties. Beyond that a 1999 9-3, 2002 9-3, 2004 9-3 and a 2008 9-3 (all convertibles all brand new, the ’08 factory ordered) and 1 2008 9-3SS used in 2011. Both ’08’s and the ’11 are still in my garage, for now. Saab didn’t die because I didn’t buy their cars. That much I know.

      They are your cars, your money, do what you like. It simply is, as someone else mentioned, showing the state of the brand.

      • BMW Rider, I was not pointing at anyone specifically. I will most probably join the M force soon! But my heart is still in my birthplace Trollhättan with the classic Saab cars!

    • I think no one distrust your loyalty to and the love of the brand but using this particular forum to sell your “modern Saabs” is pretty demoralising even for someone that have given up quite long ago. Its great that you restore and own very old saabs but still that is only nostalgia.

      • Guess I had to make it private since there just might be an inspired testdrive that included some “Spitzengeswindlichkeit” tryouts…… Do I need to say anything more. The car had 480 BHP and a double-clutch race box.

        • Spitzengeschwindigkeit 😉
          It’s so relaxing to travel with 200 km/h in a 95 on a german highway (Autobahn). All about this is not comfortable. I never tried max. speed of my 95 Troll.
          480 hp – when do electronic release max power?

          • My 2002 9-5 AERO with some extras made 260 km/h with ease. Travelling down to Italy through Germany with 4 people and tons of stuff at speeds up to 230 km/h was no big excitement really. Saabs are great speeders!

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